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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Daley piles on more evidence of idiocy: Require ALL businesses to have security cameras EVERYWHERE

Posted: 1/31/2006 1:56:36 PM EDT

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-camera31.html

Daley: Cameras will make us safer

January 31, 2006

BY FRAN SPIELMAN City Hall Reporter

Mayor Daley on Monday embraced a radical plan to require every licensed Chicago business open more than 12 hours a day to install indoor and outdoor cameras.

"Block clubs, community organizations want cameras. ... They can't walk down the street. ... Their kids have to go around a corner away from the gang-bangers. You can't walk to church. You can't get on the CTA. ... Cameras really prevent much crime. Cameras also solve a lot of crime. The terrorist attacks in London were solved by cameras. The whole incident was solved by cameras," Daley said.

Chicagoland Chamber of Commerce President Jerry Roper estimated that 12,000 businesses -- maybe more -- are open for more than 12 hours a day and, therefore, would be covered by the sweeping camera mandate. That includes roughly 7,000 restaurants, more than 100 hotels and scores of retail establishments.

"Are there enough cameras in production to do what they're asking us to do?" Roper said.

Businesses will close earlier?

If the mayor's endorsement translates into City Council approval of the ordinance championed by Ald. Ray Suarez (31st), business leaders will demand tax breaks and a phase-in similar to the sprinkler ordinance that gives older high-rises 12 years to comply, Roper said.

And he predicted the requirement would ultimately translate into fewer hours and lower wages.

"Some places will take a look at the cost and say, 'We'll only be open for one shift or a shift and a half. They'll take a look at their last two hours and say, 'I'm not making that much anyway. I'll just close earlier.' Employees will lose that money," Roper said.

Two years ago, with help from a $5.1 million federal homeland security grant, the city announced plans to install 250 cameras at locations thought to be at high risk of a terrorist attack, link them and 2,000 existing cameras to the 911 center and equip them all with software capable of spotting "suspicious and unusual behavior."

City Hall is now finalizing a contract for "Operation Virtual Shield," Daley's Big Brother plan to link 1,000 miles of "sometimes stand-alone fiber" into a unified "homeland security grid" -- complete with sensors to monitor the city's water supply and detect chemical and biological weapons.

The city also made an unprecedented offer to the private sector. Businesses that agreed to pay an undisclosed fee would have cameras outside their entrances and even in their stairwells monitored by the 911 center.

Last summer, the Chicago Sun-Times reported that Boeing Co. had become the first Chicago business to join the camera network.

On Monday, City Hall disclosed that a dozen corporations -- ranging from utilities to companies in the La Salle Street financial district -- also have signed on. The fee is being negotiated.

"Downtown, we'll take a building [that has] cameras. We'll retrofit those cameras. ... We're working with Navy Pier. We're working with McCormick Place, retrofitting cameras, every building downtown," the mayor said.

London has 200,000 cameras monitoring virtually every public move its citizens make. Daley wouldn't go so far as to say he wants to duplicate the London network. He would only say he's "looking for more and more cameras all over."

'It's their land,' Daley says

Chicago's surveillance network could be dramatically enhanced if businesses open more than 12 hours a day are required to install and monitor cameras to record what goes on inside the place and in the parking lot. The only exceptions to the edict proposed by Suarez would be washrooms and changing areas.

Last week, business leaders lined up in opposition to the mandate on grounds it could add anywhere from $5,000 to $20,000 to their costs -- even before monitoring expenses.

But, Daley said Monday he's all for the idea.

"Look at the police radio [log]. ... Why should we be clearing every parking lot out for the owner of the drive-in? That's their responsibility. It's their land," Daley said.

The mayor endorsed the camera mandate after unveiling a $4 million incident center at the 911 building that, among other things, will serve as the new home for Snow Command.

Posted: 1/31/2006 2:01:31 PM EDT

[#1]

Somehow I doubt cameras had any effect on the decision somebody made to blow themselves up...

Posted: 1/31/2006 2:07:48 PM EDT

[#2]

Hes a tool.

Posted: 1/31/2006 2:10:35 PM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:
Somehow I doubt cameras had any effect on the decision somebody made to blow themselves up...

Very true

But hey, politicians don't think like this do they? Handguns are banned here, but the crimerate where handguns are involved is rising rapidly every year..politicians answer? Ban replica's, airsoft etc etc....

Posted: 1/31/2006 2:15:05 PM EDT

[#4]

Nice unfunded mandate. The sheep in Chicago won't care. As long as they can get plenty of Old Style to drink they're happy.

Posted: 1/31/2006 2:16:57 PM EDT

[#5]

King Richard can go fuck himself with a jackhammer.

Does ANYONE need ANYMORE proof that the object of any socialist government is to become mother AND father to all the people (and treat them as addled brained retards that can't think or do anything for themselves)?

And yet there are MILLIONS of ~~people~~ sheep that will joyfully embrace this kind of government in order to feel safe. Note I said FEEL safe not BE SAFER.

Posted: 1/31/2006 2:19:36 PM EDT

[#6]

IL and WI should do a swap.

We send all of our liberal idiots down there, and all of IL right thinking people come up here.

Posted: 1/31/2006 2:23:11 PM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
IL and WI should do a swap.

We send all of our liberal idiots down there, and all of IL right thinking people come up here.

We could get fox to do a TV show called 'liberal swap'.

Watch what happens when liberals create a socialist paradise in illinois and nothing goes the way they planned!

Posted: 1/31/2006 3:37:38 PM EDT

[#8]

And yet he seeks to ban even more guns.

Posted: 1/31/2006 3:41:23 PM EDT

[#9]

Daley has to keep the IBEW in Cook County happy with some new work.

Posted: 1/31/2006 3:46:36 PM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
IL and WI should do a swap.

We send all of our liberal idiots down there, and all of IL right thinking people come up here.

How about the other way around?

We're closer to cool states like KY, TN, MO

Posted: 1/31/2006 3:48:18 PM EDT

[#11]

That guy must be insane.

Posted: 1/31/2006 3:48:58 PM EDT

[#12]

Gee.... ya'don't think that maybe manufacturers of security cameras and/or security systems installers
are 100% behind this idea?

Wouldn't surprise me at all if Daley would be getting "campaign contributions" from them.

Posted: 1/31/2006 3:49:36 PM EDT

[#13]

The Daley Choo-Choo has chuged farther around the bend. What a colosal moron.

I hope he plans on paying for all those cameras. Want to bet he's got a big piece of one of Chacago's major camera dealers?

His daddy was a fucking crook and HE is a fucking crook! I never cease to be amazed at the caliber of poiticians that get elected in big cities. City folks are just fucking idiots I guess...for the most part anyway.

Posted: 1/31/2006 3:51:21 PM EDT

[#14]

That doofus probably sits on his shitter jerking off to more crazy ideas every day.

Posted: 1/31/2006 3:53:42 PM EDT

[#15]

I think it is funny how many businesses (like Autozone) have signs stating "security cameras are installed for your safety" ummm, so is there a remote gun or laser that an A.I. computer will control to shoot someone who attempts to rob me?

Security cameras are not for safety, but for liability and monitoring...I suppose in an extreme sense it could be for safety....like if the camera saw a murder then they know who to look for....too bad for the initial victim though....

Posted: 1/31/2006 3:58:47 PM EDT

[#16]

I suppose if it became law, there will be guidlines that must be followed. These would probably include the type of recordings, how often the recordings are rotated (probably hard drive based), ethernet connection so that any LEO can direct link into the recordings for any time period, including right now...etc

Posted: 1/31/2006 3:59:58 PM EDT

[#17]

Daley has lost whatever remnant of sanity he may have once had.

Posted: 1/31/2006 6:15:51 PM EDT

[#18]

Posted: 1/31/2006 6:26:24 PM EDT

[#19]

I'm sure all government would be exempt from this.

Posted: 1/31/2006 6:32:37 PM EDT

[#20]

Why not mandate radio transmitting microphones imbedded in all clothing? That way we can detect if people are plotting a terrorist action?

Or better yet, why not make all doors stay locked until the occupant calls the police and tells them where hes going, why, and when he'll be back?

And these are the same people that are pissed off so much about the wiretaps???

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