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Posted: 8/21/2005 4:35:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/21/2005 4:36:21 PM EDT by raven]
This thread starts out with this question:

Quixote1818
Original message
Why did Carter take so much heat for Gas Prices and not Bush?


I was only like eight years old then but it seems like Carter was getting ripped right and left over Gas prices. Is my childhood memory playing tricks on me or was that how it was?


The correct answer is because unlike gas prices today, the price control policies of Carter and Nixon caused gas shortages. Most of the DUmmies are too ignorant to know that, and blame it on

bribri16 (736 posts)
26. Carter is a Dem. The media was controlled by the RW then also. n/t


No, DUmmie, wrong on two counts. First, the media then as now, isn't controlled by the right-wing and second, the press approved of price controls. ingrimayne.saintjoe.edu/econ/MakeProfit/Application.html

Then they start daydreaming about how Carter said we'd just have to sacrifice, cope, and lower our standards of living. Simply nothing could be done to alleviate our problems.

Finally, someone knows the truth:

LiberalArkie
19. Carter instituded price controls


so that the pumps just went dry at a low price rather that increasing to something totally outrageous. The pumps ran out, but at least poor people could afford it.


"There's no gas left because of Carter's insane policies, but if there was gas, at least the poor could afford it!" Wonderful, that's nice to know.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 4:47:02 PM EDT
My God, the Carter years... What a dark period in our nations history. He was a joke(a bad one)then and remains one to this day-
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 4:52:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/21/2005 5:02:45 PM EDT by WildBoar]
The liberals are definitely insane. No doubt. Can one spout off such ignorance and think they are the superior? Man they are freaking nuts.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 4:55:41 PM EDT
Insane....most insane!
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 5:00:39 PM EDT
Presidentially speaking....

Carter = fucktard.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 5:03:01 PM EDT
I remember paying 18 per cent interest on my used F100 because interest rates were so high during Carter's term
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 5:10:36 PM EDT
Personally, I think MR Carter had ALOT more smarts than the history of his years in office would indicate but, as ANY national Democratic office holder, he was screwed by the insane-fringe the dims seem so (Shaking head in wonderment here) freakin' beholding to

Jimy Carter sold his soul to the freaks (And I MEAN F**KIN' FREAKS!) who call the shots for the DNC and his tenure in office showed it.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 5:21:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mushoot:
I remember paying 18 per cent interest on my used F100 because interest rates were so high during Carter's term



Yeah inflation was out of control. In college, my economics professor brought in a pamphlet from the Carter administration. It was a citizen's guide to inflation, and how we can fight it. My professor got spitting mad reading it aloud to us, because not only was everything in it flat wrong, it blamed average citizens for inflation and demanded they change their consumer habits in order to serve the greater good.

(Him reading the pamplet to us):

"'The causes of inflation are many and varied.' What utter bullshit! What the hell are they talking about? There's one cause of inflation! One! Oh, get a load of this, you'll love this...."

Link Posted: 8/21/2005 6:56:59 PM EDT
I remember Carter's take on the energy crisis: price controls which casued high prices and shortages, and Carter wearing a sweater in the white house and telling us how his wife cried because it was so cold.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:02:13 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:08:16 PM EDT
Carter=the biggest joke of a president in the last 100 years.

Of course, those of us who bought bonds in the late 70's did, let's say, quite well.



Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:20:13 PM EDT
correct me if I'm wrong, as I wasn't born until 79, but during the carter years didn't they ration gas and you could only buy a limited amount and/or buy on only certain days?
we don't have that now
that's why bush isn't getting ripped as bad, although he is getting ripped on for it
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:20:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/21/2005 7:21:26 PM EDT by The_Macallan]

Jimmy Carter's achievments as President:

DOMESTIC -
* Stagflation - the seemingly impossible combination of negative economic growth and rapid inflation.
* 21% "misery index" (inflation + unemployment)
* 14.8% inflation (went from 5.2% to 11.8%, peak 14.8% 3/80)
* 7.8% unemployment (ended at 7.5%)
* 15% mortgage interest rates
* 70% top marginal income tax rate
* 14+% poverty rate
* He formed the Dept. of Education = entrenching the Teachers Union in the Federal Gov't.
* The 1979 "oil crisis" and more gas lines.
* He told America to wear sweaters, turn down the heater to 68 and just do more with less from now on.
* In his infamous "malaise" speech he actually blamed the American people for the nation's "paralysis and stagnation and drift".
* He Awarded the Presidential Medal Of Freedom to Roger Baldwin, self-avowed Communist and founder of the ACLU.
* He ran a whopping 23% approval rating during 1980 campaign.
* He lost in a 489 to 49 Electoral landslide for Reagan and Republican control of the Senate in 1980. (Thank God!!)

FOREIGN AFFAIRS -
* Gave us 444 days of non-stop world-wide humiliation at our impotent and ineffectual President.
* Approved a poorly planned and botched "rescue" that only added to America's humilation around the world.
* Watched detente crumble with the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.
* Pulled out of the 1980 Olympics - for spite.
* Gave away the Panama Canal.
* Never did explain that mysterious $250,000 payment from Libya to his brother Billy.
* Allowed three countries to fall to communism under his watch: Benin, Nicaragua, and Zimbabwe.
* Oh yeah... he made Sadat and Begin shake hands.

Jimmy Carter also favored:
* Equal Rights Amendment
* National Health Insurance
* SALT II missile treaty
* Unilateral disarmament

Jimmy Carter is nothing but a spineless, impotent, embarassingly-ineffectual, gutless, socialist, moronic fool who should never have held any Gov't position higher than a paper-clip sorter for Barney Fife.




Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:30:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Macallan:
Jimmy Carter's achievments as President:

DOMESTIC -
* Stagflation - the seemingly impossible combination of negative economic growth and rapid inflation.
* 21% "misery index" (inflation + unemployment)
* 14.8% inflation (went from 5.2% to 11.8%, peak 14.8% 3/80)
* 7.8% unemployment (ended at 7.5%)
* 15% mortgage interest rates
* 70% top marginal income tax rate
* 14+% poverty rate
* He formed the Dept. of Education = entrenching the Teachers Union in the Federal Gov't.
* The 1979 "oil crisis" and more gas lines.
* He told America to wear sweaters, turn down the heater to 68 and just do more with less from now on.
* In his infamous "malaise" speech he actually blamed the American people for the nation's "paralysis and stagnation and drift".
* He Awarded the Presidential Medal Of Freedom to Roger Baldwin, self-avowed Communist and founder of the ACLU.
* He ran a whopping 23% approval rating during 1980 campaign.
* He lost in a 489 to 49 Electoral landslide for Reagan and Republican control of the Senate in 1980. (Thank God!!)

FOREIGN AFFAIRS -
* Gave us 444 days of non-stop world-wide humiliation at our impotent and ineffectual President.
* Approved a poorly planned and botched "rescue" that only added to America's humilation around the world.
* Watched detente crumble with the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.
* Pulled out of the 1980 Olympics - for spite.
* Gave away the Panama Canal.
* Never did explain that mysterious $250,000 payment from Libya to his brother Billy.
* Allowed three countries to fall to communism under his watch: Benin, Nicaragua, and Zimbabwe.
* Oh yeah... he made Sadat and Begin shake hands.

Jimmy Carter also favored:
* Equal Rights Amendment
* National Health Insurance
* SALT II missile treaty
* Unilateral disarmament

Jimmy Carter is nothing but a spineless, impotent, embarassingly-ineffectual, gutless, socialist, moronic fool who should never have held any Gov't position higher than a paper-clip sorter for Barney Fife.

www.cnn.com/interactive/world/0205/carter.gallery/carter.castro.jpg





That about sums it up.


Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:36:40 PM EDT

LiberalArkie
19. Carter instituded price controls

so that the pumps just went dry at a low price rather that increasing to something totally outrageous.



Well, at least he has the support of the English majors...
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:37:42 PM EDT
The first time I got banned from DU was because I said Carter was a big pussy. I was gone within minutes.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:40:43 PM EDT
Wow, now that's telling. The Democrats actually admit to wanting Americans to be miserable and for America to be an international embarrassment.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 7:41:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Dukota:
The first time I got banned from DU was because I said Carter was a big pussy. I was gone within minutes.



Hence the name DEMOCRATICunderground. The majority didn't like what you had to say, therefore they didn't want you to speak.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 8:22:20 PM EDT
Actually, Jimmy Carter’s administration did have one redeeming virtue.

It was so incredibly inept that it virtually guaranteed the election of Ronald Regan in 1980.
Link Posted: 8/21/2005 8:55:13 PM EDT
Remember, these people actually consider themselves the "educated" party, and honestly think that those who do not see things their way are backwards hillbilly morons.
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