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Posted: 8/29/2004 6:22:06 AM EST
Not only do these people want to ban guns, they want to ban pit bulls as well.
Here is a post authored by RMPALMER

rmpalmer (1000+ posts) Wed Jul-07-04 01:10 AM
Original message
SF Chronicle: Pit bull apologists, wake up



http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/07/06...

Eighty-eight year old Mabel Wong was still in critical condition in John Muir Medical Center in Walnut Creek on Monday. She's been there since a week ago last Saturday, battling for her life, after a horrible mauling by a neighbor's pit bull near her Concord home.

In the aftermath, people wondered how it could happen. What did this little elderly lady do to trigger such an attack? The answer is simple and blunt. Nothing.

<snip>

According to a study by the U. S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, covering the years between 1979 and 1994, pit bulls were involved in 57 fatal attacks -- well over twice the number for the next breed on the list, rottweilers, with 19, and more than German shepherds (17), huskies (12) and malamutes (12) combined. A 2000 study by the Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association concluded that pit bulls "were involved in 65 fatal attacks between 1979 and 1998 ... twice that of rottweilers and more than three times German shepherds.''

Even more damning are the statistics kept by Clifton, a dog activist who has been keeping meticulous records since 1982 of dog attacks severe enough to have been reported in the media. It should be noted that Clifton excludes attacks by guard dogs, police dogs and trained fighting dogs and does not chart cases where the breed is uncertain.

The numbers are stunning. As of last week, meaning Mabel Wong's mauling would be included, pit bulls were cited in 831 attacks. The next closest was the rottweiler with 373. No other breed made it out of double digits.



And here are some replies:

Rowdyboy (1000+ posts) Wed Jul-07-04 02:04 AM
Response to Original message
2. Thank you for this thread



Many dog lovers here refuse to admit the truth that these are vicious, unstable animals. I am second to NO ONE in my love of dogs, but pit bulls, sadly, need to be euthanized-for society's sake.

I feel sick saying this, but it really is how I feel. They hurt old people and children. Too many owners are unconcerned assholes and the only way to combat it successfully, is to eliminate these trained killers.




And this guy isn't even an American, yet he feels the need to chime in about OUR country:

Pert_UK (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-20-04 11:37 AM
Response to Original message
49. We don't have this problem in the UK......



having seen the evidence from abroad and attacks at home, it was made illegal to own pitbulls.....

AAARRRGHGHHHHH!!! REPRESSION!!!!!! WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN????

Oh hang on, they did......



Read more here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=69028&mesg_id=72096&page=

Link Posted: 8/29/2004 6:28:41 AM EST
My black has never hurt anyone... But did they really ban pit bulls in England?
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 6:34:46 AM EST

Originally Posted By rasanders22:
My black has never hurt anyone... But did they really ban pit bulls in England?



Yes they did, however they didn't ban staffordshire terriers, which are pretty much IDENTICAL to pit bulls, reguardless of what anybody says.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 11:12:15 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/29/2004 11:16:50 AM EST
Hmmm.....I live about 20 minutes away from there. I could "take care"of her.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 11:18:57 AM EST
Shit....I live in walnut Creek...Somebody, please send chopper, grab me and mine, and carpet bomb the area....go for berkely first, only 20 miles yonder.

Gabba, where you at?
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 11:20:16 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 11:27:15 AM EST
I'm in Fairfield moved here from concord anyone know where at in concord this happened?
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 11:28:35 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/29/2004 11:35:59 AM EST by raven]
lu380, please read this.

February 04, 2004
The Universal Democratic Underground Thread

I don't think there is a single blog out there I read that hasn't at least once linked to Democratic Underground's Forum. The place is like a train wreck of human thought; you just can't help but gawk at their twisted logic and wild-eyed conspiracy theories. I've even ended up becoming addicted to the site; anytime there is breaking news, I think, "I wonder what the nuts are saying about this," and head straight for DU. It’s like a daily freak show. Yet, I've begun to tire of it, and I realized why. In the end, it's really just the same thing over and over. After careful analysis (two minutes thought), I think I broke down all the variance of opinion you'll ever see on DU and put into one imitated thread. They will often go on longer than this, but then it's a lot of the same posts being made over and over by other people.

Well, without further ado, here is the...

UNIVERSAL DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND THREAD

Read More »

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muck4d00

[News Headline]

[Excerpt of article about military issue, political issue, man-made event, natural occurence, or... well... anything followed by link to entire article]

Looks suspicious to me.

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[Index of response titles]

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8lame8ush

1. Obvious ploy

It's obvious that Karl Rove is behind this. How this happened on [whatever the date is] is just too convenient in timing, especially considering that [Bush's poll number's are up/Bush's poll numbers are down/Bush's poll numbers are neutral/it's raining in Antigua].

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Th!nkH3sFunny

2. Treat for Bush*

I bet Karl Rove is giving Chimpy a banana over this one.

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muck4d00

3. LOL!

Though your humor was blunt and inept, I will praise you for it, Th!nkH3sFunny, and pretend I laughed since it goes along with my own prejudices.

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halfempty

4. Nothing we can do

This just make me feel so depressed. There is nothing Bush* and the neo-cons won't do to keep power and wage war. Remember, these are the same people who rigged an election, killed Carnahan and Wellstone, and stole my bong. They're going to steal the election again with the "liberal media" helping them all the way. Then they'll plunge the world into death and chaos and I'll never be able to get another bong.

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halffull

5. This will sink Bush*

I disagree, halfempty, this is exactly what is going to make people realize that Bush* really is like Hitler… and then everyone will turn against him… and then true progressives will get in office… and then peace will be had in the world… and then gumdrops will fall from the sky… and then unicorns will roam the land once again.

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M3sn00ty

6. We smart

You may be right, halffull, but remember that we, the progressives of DU, are much smarter than everyone else. We have to carefully move all others to our viewpoints because most still don't understand [convoluted conspiracy theory no one understands].

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halffull

7. At least we have debate

It's great at least that we talk about things like this here, and don't block out views we don't like such as the Freepers and Repugs do.

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Name removed

8. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules and better conform to GroupThink™.

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Imune2Irony

9. Repugs are nazis

This all just goes along with the Bush*'s and the Repugs' nazi mentality. The only way we can preserve liberty is to round up the Repugs and put them in ovens.

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N3wGuy

10. My own 2 cents

Ooh! Ooh! I'm a monkey!

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muck4d00

11, Back to the main point

Imune2Irony and N3wGuy makes some great points, but I just hope everyone keeps in mind how [what was mentioned in the original article] can really be used against us. I bet even the Zionists and the Christians are all cheering about this.

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AFewM4rblesL3ft

12. Careful

Watch how you phrase things. Let's try not to get labeled anti-Semitic and anti-Christian again.

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4sylum3scapee

13. Don't be dumb

I wouldn't worry about offending Jews or Christians. If you've been paying attention to all that going on, especially [a weather occurrence that unconvinced Democrats], it's obvious that GOD IS BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY HALIBURTON!

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muck4d00

14. Exactly

If a glowing angel approaches you or a burning bush starts talking to you, DON'T LISTEN TO IT BECAUSE IT IS PURE PRO-BUSH PROPAGANDA!

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4sylum3scapee

15. Beware

Holy Spirit = Goebbels

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Th!nkH3sFunny

16. Wouldn't that be great

I wish someone would burn Bush*.

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Moderator

17. Locking

Thread is being locked to keep nuttiness evenly spread throughout the forum.

Thank you for your understanding and cooperation,
DU moderator

www.imao.us/archives/cat_know_thy_enemy.html

This parody basically sums up the 16 stock responses you will ever read on DU. It's the same shit, over and over and over and over. You will eventually tire of it, everything they say is utterly predictable in its paranoia, hatefulness, and boundless stupidity. I hardly go to DU any more, it's just too predictable and I'm never shocked or surprised by anything they say anymore. It was hilarious and fascinating at first, but now it's like "Eh, what do you expect? It's DU."
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 11:31:41 AM EST

Originally Posted By JSteensen:
Shit....I live in walnut Creek...Somebody, please send chopper, grab me and mine, and carpet bomb the area....go for berkely first, only 20 miles yonder.

Gabba, where you at?



Benicia. Lee's apartment is in Walnut Creek, I go to school in Pleasant Hill.

What exit do you live off of?
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 11:34:28 AM EST

Originally Posted By pieeater:
I'm in Fairfield moved here from concord anyone know where at in concord this happened?



No idea, all we know is that she's at John Muir.

Cool, you live fairly close to me.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 11:36:11 AM EST
Dont tell me you go to DVC. I do. I live right at ygnacio and oak grove, over the hill from clayton.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 11:36:11 AM EST
Tagged for later.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 11:36:48 AM EST

Originally Posted By JSteensen:
Dont tell me you go to DVC. I do. I live right at ygnacio and oak grove, over the hill from clayton.



Yeah I do, I'm finishing up the culinary program there.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 11:38:26 AM EST
AOJ here. My ex is in Culinary...I try not to judge all of you by her
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 11:39:07 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/29/2004 11:41:12 AM EST by GabbasaurusRex]

Originally Posted By JSteensen:
AOJ here. My ex is in Culinary...I try not to judge all of you by her



The program now?! What's her name?

How long have you been at DVC?

EDIT: AOJ? I'm taking that firearms class right now.
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 11:41:15 AM EST
Taking it to IMs, rather not post the name here
Link Posted: 8/29/2004 11:43:15 AM EST

Originally Posted By JSteensen:
Taking it to IMs, rather not post the name here



Yeah, I figured.
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