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Posted: 4/26/2001 7:10:00 PM EST
I want to get a DSA Carbine. What is the recoil like without the comp? How much velocity/reduction in muzzle flash, will the 18" barrel get me? Thanx
Link Posted: 4/26/2001 7:16:24 PM EST
[#1]
I'd get the 18" you get about 75 to 100 fps more than the 16.I wouldnt get the comp.too loud,raises dust.Iwas standing to the side of my friens(16-comp) at about 12 feet.It almost blew my hat off.
Link Posted: 4/26/2001 7:23:11 PM EST
[#2]
I'm no ballistics expert, but I've heard that the .308 needs at least 17" of barrel to achieve optimal performance. Or is this another "urban legend"?


Of course, I wouldn't want to be on the recieving end of a 16" .308 either.
Link Posted: 4/27/2001 2:25:41 AM EST
[#3]
I'd go with an 18" no comp as well.  The old Para FALs and later SAR-48 Bush rifles (both 18.5") handled just about perfect to me.  I think 16" would be handy as well, but you're looking at alot of noise and flash.  That .308 is a big case full of powder.  I'd rather burn the powder up in the barrel, than outside it.

Ross
Link Posted: 4/27/2001 2:57:52 AM EST
[#4]
I think 16 or 18 depends on what you want it for.  I have an StG-58 with the 16, and am quite happy with it.
Oh yeah, and I have one of those "zero climb" brakes on it. Noisy.[heavy]
Link Posted: 4/27/2001 6:37:16 AM EST
[#5]
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I want to get a DSA Carbine. What is the recoil like without the comp? How much velocity/reduction in muzzle flash, will the 18" barrel get me? Thanx
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I have a limited edition light weight carbine that's 16". It has a muzzle brake as well. I absolutely LOVE this gun. It's no longer than a post-ban AR carbine and shoots extremely well. Recoil is a non-issue and the rifle punches big holes through anything it's aimed at.

That's all I wanted it to do and it does it extremely well. One of the nicest rifles I have ever seen.......thank god I own it!
Link Posted: 4/27/2001 7:06:06 AM EST
[#6]
Can you get an SA58 without a comp?

On their US-made barrels, the comp is part of the barrel, not an addition.
Link Posted: 4/27/2001 8:47:37 AM EST
[#7]
Get the 18" bbl and the muz brake, looks and handles well.
Link Posted: 4/27/2001 12:19:16 PM EST
[#8]
DSA does not offer an 18" barrel.
Link Posted: 4/27/2001 6:58:44 PM EST
[#9]
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DSA does not offer an 18" barrel.
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DSA offers an STG58 congo/carbine barrel $125.00, I guess if you want the 18" barrel without the comp you could ask them to cut down a full size barrel, since the 18" barrel is threaded it would be "illegal"(?) without a permanatly attached muzzle device. My guess is SA58 carbine, one piece bbl/muzzle device or STG58A kit carbine with a full size barrel cut down to 18"/no muzzle device. I've dealt with these guys (John) at length.
there seems to be nothing John wont do to keep a customer happy
I love these guys and their guns/ beautiful workmanship
Link Posted: 4/27/2001 7:01:52 PM EST
[#10]
18"/no comp.
Ask the guy to do it for you.  Maybe they'll offer it as a factory option, no charge (there's always a glimmer of hope.)
Link Posted: 4/27/2001 7:30:51 PM EST
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18"/no comp.
Ask the guy to do it for you.  Maybe they'll offer it as a factory option, no charge (there's always a glimmer of hope.)
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I was at their place last week for two hours talking to the production mgr. I am almost positive he will do just about anything for "the customer". these guys are great. he showed me their whole line of stuff, Man, I had to drag my tongue across the parking lot to the car. they barreled and headspaced my Imbel group buy kit with a STG carbine barrel with the light weight muzzle brake. very nice work and looks GOOD.
Link Posted: 4/28/2001 11:25:46 AM EST
[#12]
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DSA does not offer an 18" barrel.

What I meant is that it is not normally offered on their STG-58A.Maybe they've changed? Originally I wanted an 18" and they told me they were not making them in 18" and if I wanted one I would have to buy the congo/carbine barrel for the additional $125. I went with the shortened 16" barrel for $50 instead.
Link Posted: 4/28/2001 12:29:22 PM EST
[#13]
I read an article once about sporterizing an old Mauser.  The guy HACKsawed the bbl. to the desired length, and then filed it smooth.  Next, he used a .45 bullet in a drill to get the crown smoothed out.
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