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Posted: 9/25/2005 4:06:27 PM EDT
Gun control group to run ads warning about self-defense shootings


The Associated Press
September 23. 2005 6:27PM

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gun control group is set to start running ads contending that a new Florida law allowing people to act in self defense without first trying to flee will make it more dangerous to come here.

On Oct. 1, the day the new law takes effect, the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence will run ads in newspapers in London, Chicago, Boston and Detroit that contend that visitors will now "face a greater risk of bodily harm in Florida," The Miami Herald reported Friday.

The group will also hand out fliers to arriving passengers at Miami International Airport drawing attention to the law, which passed the Legislature overwhelmingly earlier this year.

The measure says people who are under attack don't have to retreat before responding, but can meet "force with force" as long as they're in a place they legally have a right to be.

The person who feels they are under attack can use deadly force "if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so, to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another," under the new law, which was pushed by the National Rifle Association and signed by Gov. Jeb Bush in April.

The governor's office said the Brady Campaign's tactics were inflammatory and false.

"We think this is ridiculous," said Alia Faraj, the governor's spokeswoman. "Florida's crime rate has reached a 34-year low and the 80 million visitors who came to our state can attest to that. It's tragic that they would use gimmicks like that to scare people."

A similar bill is currently being considered in Michigan.

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Information from: The Miami Herald,

Link Posted: 9/25/2005 4:11:47 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 4:12:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/25/2005 4:14:41 PM EDT by LANCEMAN]
Good, too many people here already.

ETA: Maybe it will scare off some Liberals
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 4:12:40 PM EDT
Remind me to make my next trip somewhere in Florida.
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 4:14:18 PM EDT
Any other FL members wanna organize a special trip to the range Oct, 1st to celebrate the new pair of balls FL just grew?



Link Posted: 9/25/2005 4:18:27 PM EDT
Damn!! This is probably going to cause more people to move here.
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 4:20:44 PM EDT
Yes, we're simply awash in gun violence since that law was passed.

I get shot at...maybe 4-5 times a day. Sometimes more if I leave the house.

Link Posted: 9/25/2005 4:21:59 PM EDT
Sigh.....


We really need to come up with some kind of IQ/Liberal Tendancy screening test during pregnancy so we can stop these people from breeding.
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 4:24:51 PM EDT
WTF ?
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 4:32:04 PM EDT
I'll be sure to contact the Brady bunch to thank them for bringing this new law to my attention (even though I already knew about it). Then I'll assure them that I'll be visiting Florida soon because the state's gun laws are so realistic compared to places like DC and NY. Besides, FL is reciprocal with TX concealed carry.

Alpine
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 4:33:15 PM EDT
That could easily be turned against them like this


gun control group is set to start running ads contending that a new Florida law allowing people to act in self defense without first trying to flee will make it more dangerous to come here.


2nd Amendment Rights group is set to start running ads contending that Washington D.C. law forbidding citizens personal protection as a mean of self defense and being required to flee DOES make it more dangerous to come here.
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 4:37:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Johnny_Reno:
Yes, we're simply awash in gun violence since that law was passed.

I get shot at...maybe 4-5 times a day. Sometimes more if I leave the house.




You must live in one those 'nice' areas.

How about we all go to the airport and while they hand out leaflets we offer free armed escort to their cars?
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 4:38:33 PM EDT
who really wants the kind of sheeple that would support them anyway?
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 4:39:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CRC:
gun control group is set to start running ads contending that a new Florida law allowing people to act in self defense without first trying to flee will make it more dangerous to come here.


Well of course you dumb ass...more dangerous for the criminals.

(Not directed at you CRC)
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 4:42:26 PM EDT
FINALLY WE GET HELP FROM THE MEDIA!!!


I suggest that everyone from enlightened Northern states please heed this helpful public service announcement and stay the Hell home!!!!

It's too crowded here already.

-Observer

Link Posted: 9/25/2005 4:44:27 PM EDT
Texas CHL is good in florida right? Maybe I need to go visit, sounds like a safe place as of oct 1st.
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 4:44:37 PM EDT
Seems to me that the Florida tourism board would have a good liable case if they really wanted to press it. Even if no tourists care, it could still be shown to have a negative effect on a large and ligitimate business. One that generates huge tax dollars for the state every year.
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 4:44:56 PM EDT
michigan is considdering a similar law? id bet money it gets killed real quick.
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 4:46:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Freakinout:
Texas CHL is good in florida right? Maybe I need to go visit, sounds like a safe place as of oct 1st.



Yep.
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 4:55:04 PM EDT
Stop your complaining & be glad you don't live in NY
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 4:56:05 PM EDT
So basically they are saying it is more dangerous in Florida to be a wild, violent, asshole, with no respect for authority because when you try to harm someone you might end up hurt?

Is that about right?
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 4:57:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By afman91201:
So basically they are saying it is more dangerous in Florida to be a wild, violent, asshole, with no respect for authority because when you try to harm someone you might end up hurt?

Is that about right?



You got it.

Link Posted: 9/25/2005 5:02:06 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 5:02:42 PM EDT
I noticed from the article that the ads weren't being run in N.Y. Then it really would cut into the tourist trade.
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 5:03:38 PM EDT
Good. Hope they manage to keep some of them damn yankees home where they belong.
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 5:05:30 PM EDT
Looks like I'll be vacationing in FL this year!

My old Home State. 22 years of my life in that crazy peninsula. UF Class of '92. GO GATORS!

Link Posted: 9/25/2005 5:06:10 PM EDT
One of the reasons that I'm a displaced Buckeye (as well as MacDill was where I ETS'ed from). Seriously, we owe it to gun rights activism and putting in the right politcians, starting with the Governor. My heart goes out to fellow citizens in other states such as Massachussetts, California, etc etc etc - it starts at the ballot box, folks.
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 5:08:28 PM EDT
A person could take this meaning that you now have greater chance in Fla then other states of suffering "bodily" harm. I think its funny how anti-gunners always believe that whenever laws get passed that allow people to further defend themselves they start screaming that more lawlessness will break out or that more inocent persons will be at greater risk...
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 5:10:46 PM EDT
LoL i like it, We are dangerous folks! I`m reminded of my favorite bumper sticker. "Welcome to Florida, NOW GO HOME!
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 5:14:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Zaphod:
Sigh.....


We really need to come up with some kind of IQ/Liberal Tendancy screening test during pregnancy so we can stop these people from breeding.



nuke kali...
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 5:18:43 PM EDT
Wow,I forgot all about that. I'm gonna start loading all my mags right now.
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 5:37:28 PM EDT
I will be there in a couple weeks, I cant wait!

Bob
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 5:43:55 PM EDT
I guess everyone will want to come to Jersey because our gun laws are better than Fla.'s. And i was hoping to retire to Fla. in 7 to 10 years. Guess more people are not welcome.

Maxwell
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 5:49:15 PM EDT
No one paid any attention to the gun control groups before they passed the law, and no one is going to be paying any attention now.

If the Brady Bunch really thinks they are going to scare people away from Florida with their goofy ass ad campaign then they really are more delusional than I ever thought.
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 5:50:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Maxwell:
I guess everyone will want to come to Jersey because our gun laws are better than Fla.'s. And i was hoping to retire to Fla. in 7 to 10 years. Guess more people are not welcome.

Maxwell



Do you vote democrat?
Do you think only cops and military should own guns?
If not, hello friend.
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 5:51:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By LANCEMAN:
Good, too many people here already.

ETA: Maybe it will scare off some Liberals

Good they are rowing in, flying in, walking in every day and people said the AWB sunsetting would be akin to Beirut here, did not happen....
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 5:53:26 PM EDT
Come to Florida, where liberals say its the Wild West.

It really isnt. As long as this keeps sandal wearing hippy liberals away from Florida,
Im as happy as this guy --->
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 5:53:52 PM EDT
A solid "Run and Hide" strategy in the face of gun control advocates.

I for one will disregard your advice.

CWO
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 5:57:34 PM EDT
Interesting how a person is supposed to run if they see an attacker coming per VPC. I guess we are supposed to outrun our kids and wife if we have to.
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 6:31:17 PM EDT
I support the ad.

Anything to discourage yankees and foreigners from coming to the state is a good thing in my book.
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 6:35:23 PM EDT
We have some screwy gun comercials here in Oregon. One has two kids who presumably are writing each other a letter but echoing what the other is saying about staying tough, taking care of himself...etc....evidently one is in prison, who is left at home and the commercial ends with "Think twice before committing a crime with a gun - you're not the only one who will suffer."

I'd like to be the plumber for the toliet that money got flushed down. WTF good do they think those type of commercials will do? Do they really seriously think some kid with a gun pointed at someone will stop and think....hummm...if I shoot this asshat with the crank my little kid brother will miss me when I'm caught and am in prison?"

Patty
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 6:38:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By qualityhardware:
Looks like I'll be vacationing in FL this year!

My old Home State. 22 years of my life in that crazy peninsula. UF Class of '92. GO GATORS!




I notices you are in NC.

I know a good number of folks who leave FL for NC. I always noticed that.
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 6:52:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By LANCEMAN:
Good, too many people here already.
ETA: Maybe it will scare off some Liberals



Plus 1 PLEEEEEASE, hand out the flyers at the NY and NJ Airports. Can I help you?
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 7:00:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/25/2005 7:12:12 PM EDT by Progunvoter]

Originally Posted By Flash66:
I support the ad.

Anything to discourage yankees and foreigners from coming to the state is a good thing in my book.



+++1 This is a VERY DANGEROUS STATE, don't risk coming here. Please, protect your family and DON'T move to FLA with your NYPD, NYFD stooopid T-shirts. Yeah Yeah yeah, we have enough people here and too many liberal New Yoooorkers. Now git oooover it, youz guys!
Link Posted: 9/25/2005 7:04:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/25/2005 7:06:26 PM EDT by FLGreg]

Originally Posted By Maxwell:
I guess everyone will want to come to Jersey because our gun laws are better than Fla.'s. And i was hoping to retire to Fla. in 7 to 10 years. Guess more people are not welcome.

Maxwell



What?

If you define 'better' as more strict gun control then you are correct. FL is a 'shall' issue state rather than a 'may' issue state like NJ:


Issuance of the permit is almost completely discretionary, and New Jersey courts have upheld the policy of strictly limiting permits ``to persons specifically employed in security work . . . and to others who can establish an urgent necessity for carrying guns for self-protection".

As of 12-30-03 there are a little over 3000 permits issued in a state of 8 million people. Most are held by retired law enforcement officers. (source NJSP)



If I interpret your post correctly then you are not welcome in FL. Retire to Illinois - you'll be right at home there.
Link Posted: 9/26/2005 2:46:43 PM EDT
ARDun, I was the ONLY one that had a 'W' on the front lawn. the block was PLASTERED in Kerry signs. I still say, in 7-10 years, I'm taking the wife, guns, and books south. The rest I can replace when we get to a new place to live.

Not a Demo-rat fan.

I guess my try at poking fun did not work. I will not be quiting my day jobs.

be well
Maxwell
Link Posted: 9/26/2005 2:54:53 PM EDT
Yes, by God! All tourists, PLEASE stay away! You really don't want to come to Florida!

The blood that's been flowing in our streets since last September is going to be ankle deep on Oct. the first! Even Mickey Mouse is packing!
Link Posted: 9/26/2005 2:56:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By qualityhardware:
Looks like I'll be vacationing in FL this year!

My old Home State. 22 years of my life in that crazy peninsula. UF Class of '92. GO GATORS!






That's what I was going to post when I read the start of the thread!

Link Posted: 9/26/2005 2:58:51 PM EDT
When I lived in Florida I almost bought the "If the call it tourist season why can't we shoot them" bumper sticker....besides, that campaign would get me to go TO the state.

Shooter
Link Posted: 9/26/2005 4:12:26 PM EDT
ya know, I dont have any problem with them doing this. Ya know why?

1.It will keep pussified whiny liberals from coming there.
2. It will inform potential criminals that if they try to pull their crap in FLA then they will likely end up in a plastic bag.

So it should aid in the lowering of crime and liberal retard tourists.


Thanx Brady.
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 12:41:05 PM EDT
Got a link?

I need a link to pass this along to a friend.

Mike
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