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Posted: 11/24/2022 12:41:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh you can rest assured that there are very talented people that want to work for him no matter what the industry. As far as those leaving go, if they're not happy they should leave. I wouldn't want disgruntled folks left with too much access. I think Musk was surprised by the amount of people who took him up on his severance package I was having drinks with a couple buddies the other day whom are Sr. SWE for large Tech Companies in Seattle While I was laughing it up reading hilarious Elon tweets, both of them essentially said they'd be peacing out of Twitter. Neither of them are woke or progressive by any means, just don't want to work in that environment. |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 12:42:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Most of the valuable ones (engineers) aren't being shitcanned. I'm sure some will walk, but the bulk of the layoffs are "soft skill" types. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you think there isnt great talent at Twitter, you're wrong. Most of them were there because they liked the benefits and work/life balance. Once thats gone, they dont have a reason to stay. Most of the valuable ones (engineers) aren't being shitcanned. I'm sure some will walk, but the bulk of the layoffs are "soft skill" types. If they don't like weekly status updates they won't like DoD timekeeping requirements |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 12:42:48 AM EDT
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I can see some of them working on the Secure Cloud project Lockheed & Microsoft are doing, but I doubt the rest of them would be interested in any direct-bill .mil stuff. Besides, DoD stuff does not lend itself to remote working.
I also wonder what background/skills a Twitter Moderator has. |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 12:53:41 AM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How many will pass their SF86 |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 1:01:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If they want to work in the IC, they'll piss. Then you have a lame job. The IC and those with access to chemical/biological agents used for defensive testing (Personnel Reliability Program) both test on a frequent but random basis. Kharn You know, the majority of contractors supporting the DOD are "lame jobs." The DOD is supported in many ways outside of IC/NBC. Sorry, but nobody I'm aware of doing financial management/consulting/data analytics for the DOD ever had to piss, and they're paid pretty well for a "lame job." You really think the IC/NBC contractors are specifically looking for twitter people? The average beltway bandit in the technology/consulting sector isn't going to be touching that stuff, they just need the twitter bodies to be able to bid on all the random contracts from every other DOD/civ agency, without having to lose their margins to subcontractors or get screwed on a proposal by a teaming partner that isn't pulling their weight. |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 1:05:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You know, the majority of contractors supporting the DOD are "lame jobs." The DOD is supported in many ways outside of IC/NBC. Sorry, but nobody I'm aware of doing financial management/consulting/data analytics for the DOD ever had to piss, and they're paid pretty well for a "lame job." You really think the IC/NBC contractors are specifically looking for twitter people? The average beltway bandit in the technology/consulting sector isn't going to be touching that stuff, they just need the twitter bodies to be able to bid on all the random contracts from every other DOD/civ agency. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If they want to work in the IC, they'll piss. Then you have a lame job. The IC and those with access to chemical/biological agents used for defensive testing (Personnel Reliability Program) both test on a frequent but random basis. Kharn You know, the majority of contractors supporting the DOD are "lame jobs." The DOD is supported in many ways outside of IC/NBC. Sorry, but nobody I'm aware of doing financial management/consulting/data analytics for the DOD ever had to piss, and they're paid pretty well for a "lame job." You really think the IC/NBC contractors are specifically looking for twitter people? The average beltway bandit in the technology/consulting sector isn't going to be touching that stuff, they just need the twitter bodies to be able to bid on all the random contracts from every other DOD/civ agency. If they want people who try to work through social media, shape public perception, psychological operations, gather intelligence, etc? Yes, that's IC all the way. Kharn |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 1:08:43 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If they don't like weekly status updates they won't like DoD timekeeping requirements I'd be surprised if Twitters "Most Valuable" engineers would be willing to take a 70% pay cut to work for the gov. |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 1:20:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A few years back Google had a employee revolt over Google getting a DOD contract (GPS for drones?). I don't think too many Twitter people will want to work for DOD, Although strangely they don’t mind working for the Chinese government. |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 1:25:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If they don't like weekly status updates they won't like DoD timekeeping requirements Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you think there isnt great talent at Twitter, you're wrong. Most of them were there because they liked the benefits and work/life balance. Once thats gone, they dont have a reason to stay. Most of the valuable ones (engineers) aren't being shitcanned. I'm sure some will walk, but the bulk of the layoffs are "soft skill" types. If they don't like weekly status updates they won't like DoD timekeeping requirements Exactly. AND they will likely still have to do weekly status reports 
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Posted: 11/24/2022 1:29:11 AM EDT
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Twitter has never really had a rep for being a place where hard workers wind up.
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Posted: 11/24/2022 1:37:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Twitter has never really had a rep for being a place where hard workers wind up. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/214740/B5519DA4-9F81-4BC8-8DE6-4611FA376CAD-2611680.jpg When I was young in my career I would have found that snippet relatable. Just comes off as naive TBH. FANG compensation but they don't work me past 6PM?! Hard Pass 
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Posted: 11/24/2022 1:49:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I work with individuals who recently went through the clearance process. They did not have a piss test and just signed an affidavit of non drug use.  |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 2:23:40 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: it's an online text message board for Christ's sake. Musk has been able to wrangle the right talent to put lots of stuff in space and some of it even lands itself in a way I never expected to see in my lifetime. I'm confident he'll be able to keep and attract the right talent to keep an online text messaging board running...  A couple of fifteen year old boys, a case of Monster, and some of Joe Rogan's dope should do it. |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 2:26:22 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you think shitbirds/people with casual drug use history aren't capable of getting or maintaining clearances, you haven't served long enough as military or DOD civilian personnel. I know people who smoked weed in school and got jobs at places like Booz Allen Hamilton, or were even on track to commissioning through ROTC. Also you don't get piss tested working for beltway bandits, at least not for desk type work. Maybe handling vehicles or hazmat, sure, but I've never seen that in my career at companies supporting the DOD. I got piss tested a few months ago for a DOD contract job. My results were back almost before I was home. I suspect it was just a formality. |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 2:31:32 AM EDT
[#15]
Hired by?
Or returning to? |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 2:33:38 AM EDT
[#16]
Hey idiots!!! You’re hiring anti American communists!!!
FOAD!! Our defense industry is one of our worst enemies…… |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 2:33:51 AM EDT
[#17]
Musk isn’t dumping the smart people.
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Posted: 11/24/2022 2:35:16 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes but they would have to lie on their SF86. You think someone would do that? Just LIE on an SF86?? 
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Posted: 11/24/2022 2:36:35 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Uh .... Uncle Sam doesnt care when contractors do it. Wrong |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 2:37:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If they don't like weekly status updates they won't like DoD timekeeping requirements 1/10 of an hour increments |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 8:27:48 AM EDT
[#21]
Top men for sure!
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Posted: 11/24/2022 8:31:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:I have well over 30 years military/DOE/DoD contractor work under my belt. I have seen many individuals lose their job after popping hot on a piss test. We have regular random piss tests. Just a few months ago security pulled badges and escorted individuals off the installation for hot tests. I'll drink to that  
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Posted: 11/24/2022 8:38:51 AM EDT
[#23]
I’m sure China is excited to have new recruits working in the DOD positions now.
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Posted: 11/24/2022 8:43:56 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How many will pass their SF86 Not many. My company doubled their referal bonus...it's $20k just for me to refer someone who is qualified with a TS/SCI clearance, and it still takes about six months to get campus access. ROCK6 |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 8:54:08 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My company doubled their referal bonus...it's $20k just for me to refer someone who is qualified with a TS/SCI clearance, and it still takes about six months to get campus access. ROCK6   
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Posted: 11/24/2022 8:56:51 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you think there isnt great talent at Twitter, you're wrong. Most of them were there because they liked the benefits and work/life balance. Once thats gone, they dont have a reason to stay. Most people would probably like making six figures as a remote working beanbag chair fluffer, but...actually IDK why I'm even responding to one of your posts.
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Posted: 11/24/2022 9:02:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryYeah, no shit. Top tier referral is normally 10k, it was doubled for the last three months. It's a small community of IC in our area unlike the NOVA area. I mentor a retiring NCO who could easily get a job but doesn't know if he wants to. I told him to use my name as a referral and I would share some ammo with him  ROCK6 |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 9:06:11 AM EDT
[#28]
so now these liberal twats will work for the military? LOL
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Posted: 11/24/2022 9:06:38 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd be surprised if Twitters "Most Valuable" engineers would be willing to take a 70% pay cut to work for the gov. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If they don't like weekly status updates they won't like DoD timekeeping requirements I'd be surprised if Twitters "Most Valuable" engineers would be willing to take a 70% pay cut to work for the gov. Probably not. Hence why they will be working for contractors and making the same amount, if not more |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 9:09:35 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: so now these liberal twats will work for the military? LOL The IC peeps don't get to work from home, and I've seen more escorted out from timecard fraud than drug tests... ROCK6 |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 9:09:52 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes but they would have to lie on their SF86. Lol, I’d say easily over half the military has lied on paperwork to enlist or get their clearance. Shit doesn’t mean anything. |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 9:10:30 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wrong Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Uh .... Uncle Sam doesnt care when contractors do it. Wrong No Im right because I did it for four years. As long as Uncle Sam gets the hours paid for when they need them, they dont give a shit |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 9:18:17 AM EDT
[#33]
The cancer will spread and increase the rate of metastasis already developed in DIE(Diversity, Inclusion, Equity) departments.
Bell helicopter needs to build Vietnam levels of inventory to drop all the commies infecting the nation. |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 9:19:18 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Musk offered those people the chance to do something totally unique and amazing. He cant offer that for Twitter. So all the good people are on their way out the door, if they didnt leave already. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you think there isnt great talent at Twitter, you're wrong. Most of them were there because they liked the benefits and work/life balance. Once thats gone, they dont have a reason to stay. it's an online text message board for Christ's sake. Musk has been able to wrangle the right talent to put lots of stuff in space and some of it even lands itself in a way I never expected to see in my lifetime. I'm confident he'll be able to keep and attract the right talent to keep an online text messaging board running... Musk offered those people the chance to do something totally unique and amazing. He cant offer that for Twitter. So all the good people are on their way out the door, if they didnt leave already. Again, it's just a message board that restricts most people to 140 character posts. They weren't involved with writing code that monitors and predicts the flight physics of an airplane, or how metal flows in a set of dies, or how a chemical reaction takes place in an autoclave. They were just censors banning people whose posts they didn't like. If they even did that much. But maybe that's all the .GOV really wants |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 9:20:17 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 1/10 of an hour increments Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If they don't like weekly status updates they won't like DoD timekeeping requirements 1/10 of an hour increments LMAO DoD is not requiring 1/10 of an hour time keeping by contractors. Its hilarious how GD has no idea how government contracting works. |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 9:21:26 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No Im right because I did it for four years. As long as Uncle Sam gets the hours paid for when they need them, they dont give a shit We do have a company policy for moonlighting, and it's mostly to ensure NDAs are enforced....but uncle sam doesn't care. ROCK6 |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 9:28:57 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Again, it's just a message board that restricts most people to 140 character posts. They weren't involved with writing code that monitors and predicts the flight physics of an airplane, or how metal flows in a set of dies, or how a chemical reaction takes place in an autoclave. They were just censors banning people whose posts they didn't like. If they even did that much. But maybe that's all the .GOV really wants Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you think there isnt great talent at Twitter, you're wrong. Most of them were there because they liked the benefits and work/life balance. Once thats gone, they dont have a reason to stay. it's an online text message board for Christ's sake. Musk has been able to wrangle the right talent to put lots of stuff in space and some of it even lands itself in a way I never expected to see in my lifetime. I'm confident he'll be able to keep and attract the right talent to keep an online text messaging board running... Musk offered those people the chance to do something totally unique and amazing. He cant offer that for Twitter. So all the good people are on their way out the door, if they didnt leave already. Again, it's just a message board that restricts most people to 140 character posts. They weren't involved with writing code that monitors and predicts the flight physics of an airplane, or how metal flows in a set of dies, or how a chemical reaction takes place in an autoclave. They were just censors banning people whose posts they didn't like. If they even did that much. But maybe that's all the .GOV really wants lTz JusT A M3sSage BoARd With 200+ million active users, dealing with dozens of languages and governments, with living streaming. These people are using coding and algorithms every day. If you really think ~4,000 people were able to read and censor 500 million tweets a day, then you either have no idea what you're talking about, or you are vastly underestimating their work ethic |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 9:30:07 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We do have a company policy for moonlighting, and it's mostly to ensure NDAs are enforced....but uncle sam doesn't care. ROCK6 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No Im right because I did it for four years. As long as Uncle Sam gets the hours paid for when they need them, they dont give a shit We do have a company policy for moonlighting, and it's mostly to ensure NDAs are enforced....but uncle sam doesn't care. ROCK6 Its not moonlighting when you're working for the company. If you dont have 100% (or better) utilization, your head is first on the chopping block when they dont win contracts. This is the number 1 reason I took less money for a more stable job |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 9:33:38 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you think there isnt great talent at Twitter, you're wrong. Most of them were there because they liked the benefits and work/life balance. Once thats gone, they dont have a reason to stay. |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 9:37:01 AM EDT
[#40]
I honestly thought this would be. Babylon Bee thread.
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Posted: 11/24/2022 9:40:28 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you think there isnt great talent at Twitter, you're wrong. Most of them were there because they liked the benefits and work/life balance. Once thats gone, they dont have a reason to stay. You never disappoint. |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 9:42:14 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dear God. It has children's drawings on the fridge It....is a guy acting like he is a female. |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 9:42:40 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Its not moonlighting when you're working for the company. If you dont have 100% (or better) utilization, your head is first on the chopping block when they dont win contracts. This is the number 1 reason I took less money for a more stable job We were the prime when we took over from Booz Allen, and we had a few contractors meeting the gov FTE requirements, and then negotiating and contracting on other contracts for 20-30 hours a week. Both were .gov contracts, just with different agencies. They were mostly doing 12 hour weekend shifts...the prime took priority. ROCK6 |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 10:02:33 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Uh .... Uncle Sam doesnt care when contractors do it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They would have to piss in a cup. They'd never want the job. And Uncle Sam certainly does give a damn about you double-dipping on him vs other employers on the same 40-hour work week. Kharn Uh .... Uncle Sam doesnt care when contractors do it. lol tell me you don't work in DoD with saying it |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 10:07:43 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: lol tell me you don't work in DoD with saying it Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: They would have to piss in a cup. They'd never want the job. And Uncle Sam certainly does give a damn about you double-dipping on him vs other employers on the same 40-hour work week. Kharn Uh .... Uncle Sam doesnt care when contractors do it. lol tell me you don't work in DoD with saying it You're right. I dont. I used to. Both as a contractor and a fed. Thats how I know your company can absolutely double dip your services. |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 10:09:13 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: so now these liberal twats will work for the military? LOL  Liberals First Time |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 10:11:14 AM EDT
[#47]
This ought to go well.
Likely very liberal workers going to defense contractors. No culture shock of mentality and expectations. Ought to be a smooth transition. Like working a lingerie shop selling nighties to selling CAT heavy machinery. It’s all the same; just sales. |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 10:15:57 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The dope smokers won't pass the piss test or the SF86 paperwork. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: How many will pass their SF86 Most will, easily. The dope smokers won't pass the piss test or the SF86 paperwork. No piss test. I had to piss test in the commercial world regularly but not since becoming a DOD CTR. Never been an issue for me so don't really care, I just thought it was interesting that I didn't have to for the DOD but did for the private sector and I'm doing similar stuff. |
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Posted: 11/24/2022 10:22:12 AM EDT
[#49]
Twitter was bloated with nonsense jobs and Elon chopped the most obvious fat. Now the folks he has left will either adapt to the new environment or they'll ring the bell.
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Posted: 11/24/2022 10:59:57 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No piss test. I had to piss test in the commercial world regularly but not since becoming a DOD CTR. Never been an issue for me so don't really care, I just thought it was interesting that I didn't have to for the DOD but did for the private sector and I'm doing similar stuff. Do you have an active TS? |
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