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Posted: 12/12/2013 5:32:51 PM EST
This one has me stumped, a DC-3 with a FLIR pod under the nose, with United States of America markings flying over Dallas, Texas. Sometime see vintage airplanes like this that have been restored but this one is a real question mark. Is it still in service, used as a test platform or something?

Link Posted: 12/12/2013 5:37:52 PM EST
Hide your dog.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 5:38:01 PM EST
Possibly DEA. Their air ops wing is in the DFW area and they'll do flights around here to calibrate sensors.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 5:38:32 PM EST
Did you take the picture?
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 5:39:19 PM EST
The turbine and gun conversion makes that an awesome airframe.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 5:40:11 PM EST
Originally Posted By refidnasb:
This one has me stumped, a DC-3 with a FLIR pod under the nose, with United States of America markings flying over Dallas, Texas. Sometime see vintage airplanes like this that have been restored but this one is a real question mark. Is it still in service, used as a test platform or something?

http://i.imgur.com/m4Dvmp1.jpg
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Yes.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 5:41:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By refidnasb:
This one has me stumped, a DC-3 with a FLIR pod under the nose, with United States of America markings flying over Dallas, Texas. Sometime see vintage airplanes like this that have been restored but this one is a real question mark. Is it still in service, used as a test platform or something?

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If so, probably used for commercial film work.

A DC-3 ain't the most economical platform for doing aerial recon.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 5:42:23 PM EST
What a beautiful plane.
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Originally Posted By refidnasb:
This one has me stumped, a DC-3 with a FLIR pod under the nose, with United States of America markings flying over Dallas, Texas. Sometime see vintage airplanes like this that have been restored but this one is a real question mark. Is it still in service, used as a test platform or something?

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The CAF does not have slit windows. Originally I thought it might be like a Vietnam era Spooky replica, but the FLIR on it would be out of place on a plane from that era.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 5:43:03 PM EST
Could it be a camera and not a FLIR pod and they are using it for aerial photograpy for a movie or advertising? Just a guess.
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Originally Posted By glazer1972:
Originally Posted By refidnasb:
This one has me stumped, a DC-3 with a FLIR pod under the nose, with United States of America markings flying over Dallas, Texas. Sometime see vintage airplanes like this that have been restored but this one is a real question mark. Is it still in service, used as a test platform or something?

http://i.imgur.com/m4Dvmp1.jpg


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They lost some respect with me and many other southerners when they went PC.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 5:50:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 9over40:
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Looks like a second ball closer to the rear. I don't know who would choose to use that platform for surveillance, but... that's what it looks like to me.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 5:50:58 PM EST
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They only made a handful of the ones with the long side windows (the name escapes me right now) and the speed cowlings. The only one I know of still flying was owned by a winery in CA.

Interesting.

Eta: not speed cowls, my bad.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 5:53:28 PM EST
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They lost some respect with me and many other southerners when they went PC.
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Originally Posted By glazer1972:
Originally Posted By refidnasb:
This one has me stumped, a DC-3 with a FLIR pod under the nose, with United States of America markings flying over Dallas, Texas. Sometime see vintage airplanes like this that have been restored but this one is a real question mark. Is it still in service, used as a test platform or something?

http://i.imgur.com/m4Dvmp1.jpg


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They lost some respect with me and many other southerners when they went PC.


^Agreed
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 5:54:16 PM EST


I saw it again tonight flying in the dark, Photo above is grainy as a result shot with a 400mm prime without IS or a tripod. Interesting and loud plane. Raytheon has a hanger at Love Field where L3 retrofits P-3's with littoral sensors that look like canoes. I was wondering since they have similar paint schemes to this DC-3, maybe there is some relation. Movie platform could be!
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 5:57:59 PM EST
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P-3's have been flying over me for the last few days doing circles at Alliance.

ETA: Could you identify ANY markings?
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 5:58:22 PM EST
I wish I could read the N number, that would likely shed some light on the situation.

Keep an eye out, if you can ever spot it, it's relatively easy to find out who the operator is.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:00:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By refidnasb:
http://i.imgur.com/cbZrcry.jpg

I saw it again tonight flying in the dark, Photo above is grainy as a result shot with a 400mm prime without IS or a tripod. Interesting and loud plane. Raytheon has a hanger at Love Field where L3 retrofits P-3's with littoral sensors that look like canoes. I was wondering since they have similar paint schemes to this DC-3, maybe there is some relation. Movie platform could be!
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I'm guessing a testbed for L3 then. When I worked line @ KSLC we got some funky planes in for the L3 site there.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:00:55 PM EST
1930's drone technology.

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Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:03:39 PM EST
Do you have a shot with the tail number in it?
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Originally Posted By SkyCatII:
I wish I could read the N number, that would likely shed some light on the situation.

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That's what I was hoping to see tonight but can only make out the last two digits 78.

Project Gayfeather is the name for NAWC-23 that modifies the Orions. Little is known about them as most of the aircraft lack any markings. No serial numbers, tail numbers or national markings.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:04:00 PM EST
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I like this that have been restored but this one is a real question mark.
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Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:06:42 PM EST
DC-3, one of my favorite planes of all time.

If I ever become filthy rich with more money than God, I will buy one and learn how to fly it.
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Hmmm, wonder what they are testing inside that plane!
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:12:55 PM EST
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You're a better man than I... usually I'll have something like that located within a couple of minutes but this one stumped me. I pretty much scoured every DC-3/C-47 on Airliners.net looking for it

(I did find it on there after you posted the tail number, but it didn't have any payloads... probably why I missed it)
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:13:10 PM EST
Aerial mapping. Like what BING uses in their "Birdseye view" mode on bing maps.
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Hmmm, wonder what they are testing inside that plane!
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Here you go: http://www.airborneimaging.net/N92578.html



Hmmm, wonder what they are testing inside that plane!
That N-number is registered to Airborne Imaging Inc.

ETA: Doh, I didn't see thats where the pic was hosted in the first place.
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You're a better man than I... usually I'll have something like that located within a couple of minutes but this one stumped me. I pretty much scoured every DC-3/C-47 on Airliners.net looking for it

(I did find it on there after you posted the tail number, but it didn't have any payloads... probably why I missed it)
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Originally Posted By SkyCatII:
Here you go: http://www.airborneimaging.net/N92578.html


You're a better man than I... usually I'll have something like that located within a couple of minutes but this one stumped me. I pretty much scoured every DC-3/C-47 on Airliners.net looking for it

(I did find it on there after you posted the tail number, but it didn't have any payloads... probably why I missed it)


Every once in a great while I make myself useful.
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That N-number is registered to Airborne Imaging Inc.

ETA: Doh, I didn't see thats where the pic was hosted in the first place.
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Originally Posted By refidnasb:
Originally Posted By SkyCatII:
Here you go: http://www.airborneimaging.net/N92578.html



Hmmm, wonder what they are testing inside that plane!
That N-number is registered to Airborne Imaging Inc.

ETA: Doh, I didn't see thats where the pic was hosted in the first place.


Yep! But they offer their planes for sensor testing and the like.

If you like weird sightings, on Black Friday I saw a pair of Kestrels flying over Dallas. No markings. These I thought were all scrapped here in the US. Popular in other countries but the US program was dismantled. Weird sounding helicopters,



These are VH-71 Kestrels
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:20:28 PM EST
http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/N92578.html

Registration Type: Corporation
Owner: Airborne Imaging Inc
Address: Wilmington, DE 19810
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Originally Posted By hondaciv:
DC-3, one of my favorite planes of all time.

If I ever become filthy rich with more money than God, I will buy one and learn how to fly it.
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Agreed!
Thats one bird that if it was dropped in my lap I would crawl through glass nekkid to get my license.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:31:04 PM EST
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Originally Posted By refidnasb:


Yep! But they offer their planes for sensor testing and the like.

If you like weird sightings, on Black Friday I saw a pair of Kestrels flying over Dallas. No markings. These I thought were all scrapped here in the US. Popular in other countries but the US program was dismantled. Weird sounding helicopters,

http://i.imgur.com/n1iSWUI.jpg

These are VH-71 Kestrels
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Originally Posted By ZootTX:
Originally Posted By refidnasb:
Originally Posted By SkyCatII:
Here you go: http://www.airborneimaging.net/N92578.html



Hmmm, wonder what they are testing inside that plane!
That N-number is registered to Airborne Imaging Inc.

ETA: Doh, I didn't see thats where the pic was hosted in the first place.


Yep! But they offer their planes for sensor testing and the like.

If you like weird sightings, on Black Friday I saw a pair of Kestrels flying over Dallas. No markings. These I thought were all scrapped here in the US. Popular in other countries but the US program was dismantled. Weird sounding helicopters,

http://i.imgur.com/n1iSWUI.jpg

These are VH-71 Kestrels

is that a US made version of the EH101 Merlin?
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:34:02 PM EST
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J9v1Gxg3i8
Airborne Imaging DC-3 with FLIR ball.
Not the same one.


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is that a US made version of the EH101 Merlin?
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Originally Posted By ZootTX:
Originally Posted By refidnasb:
Originally Posted By SkyCatII:
Here you go: http://www.airborneimaging.net/N92578.html



Hmmm, wonder what they are testing inside that plane!
That N-number is registered to Airborne Imaging Inc.

ETA: Doh, I didn't see thats where the pic was hosted in the first place.


Yep! But they offer their planes for sensor testing and the like.

If you like weird sightings, on Black Friday I saw a pair of Kestrels flying over Dallas. No markings. These I thought were all scrapped here in the US. Popular in other countries but the US program was dismantled. Weird sounding helicopters,

http://i.imgur.com/n1iSWUI.jpg

These are VH-71 Kestrels

is that a US made version of the EH101 Merlin?

Yes, although without tail markings or markings of any kind, I have no idea where they were going or what they were doing.
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^Agreed
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Originally Posted By refidnasb:
This one has me stumped, a DC-3 with a FLIR pod under the nose, with United States of America markings flying over Dallas, Texas. Sometime see vintage airplanes like this that have been restored but this one is a real question mark. Is it still in service, used as a test platform or something?

http://i.imgur.com/m4Dvmp1.jpg


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They lost some respect with me and many other southerners when they went PC.


^Agreed
http://i.imgur.com/mhkjjFe.jpg
I too miss the nostalgia and still wear my battle flags.

However, we have several CAF pilots as members here and they have made it clear that the change was made to appease the corporate sponsorships that are needed to keep the airplanes flying.



Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:46:09 PM EST
Tap it with a mag of .308 and see what it does
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:50:15 PM EST
There are a few places that do aircraft modification around the DFW area as well
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Originally Posted By hondaciv:
DC-3, one of my favorite planes of all time.

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they are easy to fly, I flew one the first time at 5 years old (no rudders lol) on approach to Boise (with passengers)
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 7:09:30 PM EST
That's 42-32802, Douglas Construction Number 9028.
It was built as a Douglas C-47-DL

It went to the USAAF Feb 10, 1943

It went to the RFC on Oct 11, 1945.

RFC: Reconstruction Finance Corporation -- a government agency founded in 1932 to give aid to state and local governments and to make loans to banks, railroads, mortgage associations, and other businesses. During the war, the RFC made loans to enterprises essential to the war effort. It also supervised the sale and disposal of excess and surplus aircraft at the end of the war.

To civil registry as:
NC9562H
N13875 National Automotive Fibres Inc. of Detroit, MI (nicknamed "The Administrator") in Nov. 1953
N75C Detroit Steel Corp of Detroit, MI, 1966
N7503 Ohio Univ Inc, Athens, OH in 1968
N1800U Oct. 1969
N1800D Jungle Aviation & Radio Service Inc, Waxhaw, NC. Nov 1971
CP-1020 (Instituto Linguistico de Verano Mar 23, 1973)
N92578 (Jungle Aviation & Radio Service Aug 27, 1981
N92578 California Air Tours Inc, CA, 03 Aug1989
N92578 Nostalgia Air Tours in Hawaii, Van Nuys, CA 1990
N92578 DC-3 Inc., Nantucket, MA June 7th 1991
During the 1990s it was completely overhauled by the Santa Barbara Aerospace Company at San Bernardino Airport, CA
N92578 Registered to Richard Brown of Rockwall,TX 30 Jul 2001
N92578 Airborne Imaging Inc, Jan 29th 2004
Noted Mar 2, 2007 at Base Aerea Coronel Hector Carracioli Moncada, La Celba, Honduras, believed on anti-narcotics work

























Link Posted: 12/12/2013 7:17:07 PM EST
That plane is how the the laser guided missiles worked when fired from Chappy's P-38 in Iron Eagle 3.

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That's 42-32802, Douglas Construction Number 9028.
It was built as a Douglas C-47-DL

It went to the USAAF Feb 10, 1943

It went to the RFC on Oct 11, 1945.

RFC: Reconstruction Finance Corporation -- a government agency founded in 1932 to give aid to state and local governments and to make loans to banks, railroads, mortgage associations, and other businesses. During the war, the RFC made loans to enterprises essential to the war effort. It also supervised the sale and disposal of excess and surplus aircraft at the end of the war.

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Very few people realize how few DC-3's are really DC-3's.

The VAST majority are really C-47's that had windows added post-war. Douglas only build a few hundered actual DC-3's, they built thousands of C-47's.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 7:42:28 PM EST
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Some companies have been refitting them to sell to Columbia as drug interdiction planes. Since no DC-3 airframe has ever failed in flight and it's great for jungle operations, it's still a viable platform. Basler Turbo Conversions does a refit they call a BT-67.

Usually see them upgraded to turbo, though.


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That definitely looks like a ball sensor. It looks like a 20" ball, but size is hard to tell.

I'd guess its a test bed, but I'd think there are many cheaper aircraft to fly for sensor tests than that. I can think of several 20in sensor capable aircraft that are cheaper to fly off hand.
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Agreed!
Thats one bird that if it was dropped in my lap I would crawl through glass nekkid to get my license.
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Originally Posted By hondaciv:
DC-3, one of my favorite planes of all time.

If I ever become filthy rich with more money than God, I will buy one and learn how to fly it.


Agreed!
Thats one bird that if it was dropped in my lap I would crawl through glass nekkid to get my license.


Then you would total it and probably kill yourself. It happens all the time to people with a lot of money. Doctors come to mind.
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they are easy to fly, I flew one the first time at 5 years old (no rudders lol) on approach to Boise (with passengers)
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Originally Posted By hondaciv:
DC-3, one of my favorite planes of all time.

If I ever become filthy rich with more money than God, I will buy one and learn how to fly it.
they are easy to fly, I flew one the first time at 5 years old (no rudders lol) on approach to Boise (with passengers)


I flew a B727 from Orlando to DC when I was 10, doesn't mean I could fly it back then. lol
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Then you would total it and probably kill yourself. It happens all the time to people with a lot of money. Doctors come to mind.
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Originally Posted By otar:
Originally Posted By hondaciv:
DC-3, one of my favorite planes of all time.

If I ever become filthy rich with more money than God, I will buy one and learn how to fly it.


Agreed!
Thats one bird that if it was dropped in my lap I would crawl through glass nekkid to get my license.


Then you would total it and probably kill yourself. It happens all the time to people with a lot of money. Doctors come to mind.


Mostly with stuff like Beechcraft v-tails.
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That's what I was thinking...
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