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Posted: 5/18/2017 9:10:13 PM EDT
Need to get a DSLR for my work, mainly for wider angle shots than a point and shoot.

No need for anything over 10 MP as most of the time my software compresses the photos down.  Been looking at older D40/D40X/D80 bodies on eBay.  Think they're still GTG for the age?

Going to run with a 12-24 lens (I need to photograph interior rooms and entire exterior walls)
Link Posted: 5/18/2017 9:18:25 PM EDT
The biggest thing you might notice is ISO capability will suck.

You can get a D200 body cheap, like $150-ish cheap.

It won't have the ISO performance of something newer, but it will be better than a D40/D80.
Link Posted: 5/18/2017 9:29:07 PM EDT
Just keep in mind that a crop-sensor body will have the effect of lessening the wide-angle performance of your 12-24 lens so that it is more like a 19-38mm lens on a 35mm camera - the low end will still be plenty wide in many situations, but perhaps not quite as wide as you were expecting for photographing smallish indoor rooms.
Link Posted: 5/18/2017 9:47:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By radia:
Just keep in mind that a crop-sensor body will have the effect of lessening the wide-angle performance of your 12-24 lens so that it is more like a 19-38mm lens on a 35mm camera - the low end will still be plenty wide in many situations, but perhaps not quite as wide as you were expecting for photographing smallish indoor rooms.
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The issue I have with point and shoot is say my room is 12x12 (pretty normal size room) I can't get one entire wall in one photo.  Id like to be able to get at least that and maybe some of the other walls.  If its larger, I can shoot it an angle and do ok.
Link Posted: 5/18/2017 9:54:05 PM EDT
And if you haven't caught on, I know ZERO about photography.  

I'm looking at a Nikon D80/D40/D200 with a 12-24 lens (used Nikon or Sigma)

More of a work rig than a hobby rig
Link Posted: 5/19/2017 12:48:06 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/19/2017 8:36:34 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Zack3g:
I don't have anything wider than 24, but gimme a bit and I'll post a DX picture from that and my D500. Might give you some idea if wider like you're talking about will work for you.

There is about 12 feet of wall visible in this picture, shot from about 12 feet away. This is on a DX sensor at 24mm. Seems a 12-24 or even a 18-55 kit lens should manage what you're wanting to do.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/56693/-DSC0700-211494.jpg
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Good to know, thanks for that.

Look like I'm on the hunt for a D200 with the standard 18-55 lens to see how it works first.
Link Posted: 5/19/2017 9:23:58 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/19/2017 9:59:20 AM EDT
As an average guy who just wants to take decent quality photos of stuff, my D40 still suits my needs.
Link Posted: 5/19/2017 3:04:33 PM EDT
For me, one of the main advantage of the D80 over the D40/D40X is the D80 has a built in AF motor which will AF with all AF lens.
Link Posted: 5/19/2017 5:39:17 PM EDT
Here's a series of 11mm, 16mm, 24mm, and 35mm; all taken from the exact same spot with a tripod.  Crop sensor (D500).  No post work, just resized on export.

11mm by FredMan, on Flickr

16mm by FredMan, on Flickr

24mm by FredMan, on Flickr

35mm by FredMan, on Flickr
Link Posted: 5/19/2017 8:36:37 PM EDT
D80 remains a solid piece of legacy kit.


HOWEVER

If you're not using this as an excuse to jump into DSLR, you know they make clip-on wide angle lenses for most point-n-shoot cameras, right?

Pros and cons to each, but thought I'd throw that out there...
Link Posted: 5/19/2017 8:37:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Zack3g:
I don't have anything wider than 24, but gimme a bit and I'll post a DX picture from that and my D500. Might give you some idea if wider like you're talking about will work for you.

There is about 12 feet of wall visible in this picture, shot from about 12 feet away. This is on a DX sensor at 24mm. Seems a 12-24 or even a 18-55 kit lens should manage what you're wanting to do.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/56693/-DSC0700-211494.jpg
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*cough*humblebrag*cough*

LOL

Unless, that's the agitator out of your washer spray painted nikon black (hey, most canon is white, right?) lol

Link Posted: 5/19/2017 8:40:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By high_order1:
D80 remains a solid piece of legacy kit.


HOWEVER

If you're not using this as an excuse to jump into DSLR, you know they make clip-on wide angle lenses for most point-n-shoot cameras, right?

Pros and cons to each, but thought I'd throw that out there...
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Actually tried one, really need the versatility of a DSLR.
Link Posted: 6/9/2017 3:31:29 AM EDT
I recently sold my D50 but not because or performance issues. I had bills to pay.

It was still a decent performer at 12 years old.

Now my oldest camera is a 9 year old Pentax K20D and it kicks ass.

My daily go to camera is my Nikon D3200. I paid $110 for it after taxes with the kit lens.

I paid $182 for the Pentax K20D with the FA 50mm f1.4, kit lens, 3 batteries, charger, case.


I won't need to buy a new body for at least 5 years. Even then, I might get a used Pentax K1 Full Frame.
Link Posted: 6/10/2017 12:17:27 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/21/2017 3:51:15 PM EDT
I would go newer than the D80 for low-light performance alone. The D90 was a tiny bit better, the 7100 or 7200 is going to be significantly better - and still reasonable.

-shooter
Link Posted: 6/21/2017 6:16:27 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/22/2017 1:00:26 AM EDT
I have my old D80 but something on the mirror is broken or I'd send it to you. I don't think it's the way to go indoors without a lot of extra lighting. I would go for a D7000 if I wanted something cheapish and low megapixel (16mp).
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