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Posted: 9/7/2005 7:16:47 PM EDT
My prized powerhouse of a machine I bought three years ago has officially lapsed into obsolescence. It started back in November of 2004 when I first installed Half-Life 2 on my machine and fired it up. Even with the graphics and resolution cranked as low as it could go, I couldn't even play the game.

I went out to the nearest BestBuy and upgraded my video card from a Radeon 8500 to a 9550. That made HL2 playable at a choppy 20FPS and for the most part has kept pace then.

In playing some of the newer games I see now that my computer is officially at the end of the line. Any modern games are in the teens and single digits for framerate and are barely playable. Here's what I'm running now that can't keep pace:

Pentium 4 Northwood 2.2GHZ
1 Gig of RAMBUS (talk about a defunct technology!)
Radeon 9550
120 GIG hard drive (seemed so gargantuan back in the day )

Problem is, I don't have the $$ to drop 3K on a gaming machine. If I try to stay withing my budget (which is anemic to say the least) I'll just be out of date and lagging again in less than a year. One thing I do hate about the computer industry is how freaking fast technology becomes sub-par.
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 7:18:23 PM EDT
You should of spent more money on the graphics card.
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 7:20:26 PM EDT
I know what you mean. I built a new game machine about once a year until 2 years ago. I finally got tired of building one and then taking several months to get it tweaked just right only to feel pressure to do it all over again.

So I quit playing new games and have just stuck with the old ones. Actually, I got into Flight Simulator 2004 and that keeps me occupied.

I am running a 2 ghz Pentium system and I don't see the need to upgrade for a long time now that I got off my new game every 2 weeks game addiction.

patsue
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 7:21:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By JBowles:
You should of spent more money on the graphics card.



I bought as far ahead of the curve as I could.
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 7:23:02 PM EDT
The real problem is you guys are using Pentiums.

AMD chips absoluty dominate in the Price vs. perfromace area.
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 7:23:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By JBowles:
The real problem is you guys are using Pentiums.

AMD chips absoluty dominate in the Price vs. perfromace area.



3 years ago around the time I bought this rig, the Pentium 4 (if I recall correctly) was kicking the shit out of AMD's offerings. If I had the $$ now I'd go for AMD in a heartbeat.
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 7:28:19 PM EDT
I quit trying to be the nerdiest on my block.
Now I have the most ammo
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 7:32:57 PM EDT
Gotta tell ya', I love my Atari 2600 that I've had since the early 80's. Have every game but 2 of them. Just recently the old Atari has been re-released. That really made me happy because now I can finally get new joysticks.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go play "Tank".
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 7:37:58 PM EDT
Time for a newer vid card, the 9550 is not a big step over the 8500. Your com will be fine for gaming for a bit longer. Your problem is the vid card.
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 7:40:48 PM EDT
I can run HL2 fine on my AMD 2100+ (1.73GHz), 1(now 1.25) GB of DDR3200, ATI Radeon 9600 XT and 160 GB worth of hard drive. (not at the lowest settings either) I think that RAMBUS is screwing you.
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 7:43:56 PM EDT
www.ibuypower.com See what you can configure a decent machine for. I'm thinking about upgrading myself and I'm coming out at about $1800 for a decent machine with all the stuff I want.
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 7:45:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sWs2:
I can run HL2 fine on my AMD 2100+ (1.73GHz), 1(now 1.25) GB of DDR3200, ATI Radeon 9600 XT and 160 GB worth of hard drive. (not at the lowest settings either) I think that RAMBUS is screwing you.



+1 my old desktop is about the same

less ram
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 7:52:34 PM EDT
Half life two was enjoyable, but it really showed me that video games were truly a waste of time and money.

Get a crappy eMachine to post on Arfcom and save the money to get a Bushmaster AR AND a DSA FAL.

Link Posted: 9/7/2005 7:57:40 PM EDT
Just built a AMD Athlon64 dual core 3800+ puter for my cousin, holy shit it is FAST!!!!! It makes my Athlon 2600+ look like a 386, for instance I installed XP service pack 2 which on my system takes about 30-40 minutes to install, the dual core did it in about 8 minutes.
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 8:07:32 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 8:16:21 PM EDT
I spent about $1700 and here's what I bought:

Enermax 535watt Power Supply
AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego Core
Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe Motherboard
1GB Kingston HyperX PC3200 (2-2-2-5 timings)
2x 80GB Hitachi SATA2 Hard Drives in RAID 0 (WinXP & apps)
1x 250GB Hitachi SATA Hard Drive (storage)
BFG GeForce 7800GTX PCI-e Video Card

This thing runs like a champ. It's no FX-57, but it's fast enough to run Battlefield 2 with all the eye candy maxed out. The only thing that would make it better would be an additional 1GB of RAM and a second GeForce 7800GTX in SLI mode.

I reused my case, SoundBlaster Audigy 2, and my DVD-ROM and DVD+/-RW drives. There's a picture of it floating around the General Forum somewhere...
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 8:20:13 PM EDT
The problem is that you're buying silicon instead of lead!

All you need is to log onto chat.ar15.com and www.ar15.com once a day. What more do you need???

wganz

Link Posted: 9/7/2005 8:25:38 PM EDT
I got a pretty good computer about 2 years ago and since then I think I have played 1 newer game on it. I personaly got really interested in guns, C&Rs especailly that wont lose 60% of their value after 1 year.

I dont have access to high speed internet of any kind so online gaming is completely out of the question for now.
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 8:26:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By roboman:

Originally Posted By JBowles:
The real problem is you guys are using Pentiums.

AMD chips absoluty dominate in the Price vs. perfromace area.



3 years ago around the time I bought this rig, the Pentium 4 (if I recall correctly) was kicking the shit out of AMD's offerings. If I had the $$ now I'd go for AMD in a heartbeat.



You can build a faster AMD machine for less money than Intel.

And if Get an AMD motherboard that will handle the AMD X2 processors and get a normal Althon 64 now, when X2 processor prices fall then you have a upgrade path able to use the X2.
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 8:33:05 PM EDT
You can build a machine that is 80% of the available power on the market today for ~$700-$900 if you shop smart online or at a local computer store.

I just built a computer a month ago, and MAN it feels great!

AMD64 3000 CPU
nForce4 Motherboard
1 Gig of DDRAM by OCZ
Nvidia 6600GT (Get a X800 refurbed from ATi USA's website)
SATA 200 gig harddrive
DVD-R+
Cooler Master Case/Power Supply

New technology that i like is the DVD+ drives and the SATA harddrives... makes installing things go 2X as fast I swear.
Link Posted: 9/8/2005 2:01:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By gordon_freeman:
You can build a machine that is 80% of the available power on the market today for ~$700-$900 if you shop smart online or at a local computer store.

I just built a computer a month ago, and MAN it feels great!

AMD64 3000 CPU
nForce4 Motherboard
1 Gig of DDRAM by OCZ
Nvidia 6600GT (Get a X800 refurbed from ATi USA's website)
SATA 200 gig harddrive
DVD-R+
Cooler Master Case/Power Supply

New technology that i like is the DVD+ drives and the SATA harddrives... makes installing things go 2X as fast I swear.


Ahhh, Gordon Freeman. How is the Black Mesa these days?
Link Posted: 9/8/2005 2:32:45 PM EDT
My wife got a new 2005 Tahoe LT, so I got to build a new PC.


I built it the first week of June so prices should be a little less for it now. I spent just under $1500 for:


Athlon 64 3500+
MSI NForce 4 Platinum Neo mobo
1GB RAM
Dual nVidia 6600GT video cards in SLI mode
Maxtor 80 GB SATA HDD
16x DVD burner
500w Power Supply

AND an actual legit. copy of Windows XP Pro x64 edition.


It SCREAMS on HL2 and Battlefield2.

Link Posted: 9/8/2005 2:51:08 PM EDT
Well, I just built a system for fun on IBUYPOWER.com and here's my dream rig!

Here's the highlights:

680 Power Supply
AMD Athlon-64 X2 4800+ CPU With HTT
2 Gigs of DDR-400 Memory + heat spreader
Dual Nvidia GeForce 7800GTX 256MB
Dual S-ATA 300 Gig Maxtor HDs with 16MB cache each, set up on a raid array for data striping

Here's the full list in case anyway wants to read.


Case ( [New !!!] Trinity ATX Mid-Tower Case w/420W Power Supply Black )
Case Lighting ( Cold Cathode Neon Light Red )
Meter Display ( CoolerMaster Musketeer-2 System Dynamics Detector Black )
Flash Media Reader/Writer ( None )
Power Supply ( Thermaltake Purepower 680 Watt Power Supply [SLI Ready] )
Processor ( [939-pin] AMD® Athlon-64 X2 4800+ CPU w/ Hyper Transport Technology )
Processor Cooling ( Certified CPU Fan and Heatsink )
Motherboard ( Gigabyte GA-K8NXP-SLI nVidia nForce4-SLI Chipset w/7.1 Sound, Wi-Fi-g, Dual Gb LAN, S-ATA Raid, USB 2.0, IEEE-1394 Dual PCI-E MB )
Memory ( 2048 MB [1024MB X2] DDR-400 PC3200 Memory Module Corsair XMS w/ Heat Spreader )
Operation System ( MS Windows XP Home Edition w/Service Pack-2 )
Video Card ( 2x [PCI-Express 16x] Nvidia Geforce 7800GTX 256MB w/DVI + TV Out Video )
Case Round Cable ( Rounded Cables for Floppy/HDD/CD/DVD/CD-RW/DVD-RW Drives )
Case Round Cable ( Professional wiring for all cables inside the system tower )
IEEE-1394 Fire Wire Card ( None )
Hard Drive ( 300 GB HARD DRIVES [S-ATA150] Maxtor 300 GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache Hard Drive )
2nd Hard Drive ( 300 GB HARD DRIVES [S-ATA150] Maxtor 300 GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache Hard Drive )
Raid Controller ( Highpoint Rocket Raid Controller PCI Card -- Must select 2 same size Hard Drives )
USB Flash Drive ( None )
MP3 Player ( None )
Raid Configuration ( Raid-0 [Data Striping] With 2X Hard Drives )
CD/DVD Drive ( None )
TV Tuner ( None )
Video Camera ( None )
CD-RW/DVD-RW Drive ( 16x DVD-ROM + 52x32x52 CD-RW Combo Drive Black )
Sound Card ( Creative Lab Sound Blaster Audigy-2 ZS Platinum 7.1 Beige )
Power Protection ( None )
Headset ( None )
Speaker System ( [Silver/Black] Logitech Z-5500 Dolby Digital + DTS 5.1 Surround Speakers + Subwoofer )
Fax Modem ( Creative Labs V.92 56K Fax/Modem w/Voice )
Printer ( None )
Printer Cable ( None )
Network Card ( 10/100 Network Onboard )
Floppy Drive ( None )
Monitor ( None )
Keyboard ( Combo: Multi-Media/Internet Keyboard + Optical Internet Mouse Black )
Mouse ( Optical Internet Mouse Black )
Warranty ( Warranty Service Standard Warranty + 1-Year i-Care Deluxe On-site Service + 24/7 Phone Support )





Final price: $4000 +/- a few dollars with shipping.

Anyone want to buy a slightly-used kidney?
Link Posted: 9/8/2005 2:54:39 PM EDT
I had the same problem so I switched to console gaming. It's not as good but it's a lot better than uprgrading my computer constantly to keep up with the uber-gamer-nerds.
Link Posted: 9/8/2005 2:56:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Cypher214:
I had the same problem so I switched to console gaming. It's not as good but it's a lot better than uprgrading my computer constantly to keep up with the uber-gamer-nerds.



I couldn't care less about keeping up with those types. If I did I would have been upgrading a month after I originally bought this rig.

All I ask from my computer is it keeps running, keeps my video games playable, and can do what I want.
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