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Posted: 4/17/2007 9:01:54 PM EDT
I've started a couple thread regarding duty weapons, but now have a question about gear. Along with a handgun, I must also purchase a holster and mag pouches before the academy starts. Although not mentioned, I would assume a duty belt would be need to hold these up. I wish we didn't have to buy these beforehand because I don't know where to begin.

Here's the requirements listed on the list:

Holsters must be one of the following:

   * Safariland Raptor 6270 Level II
   * Safariland Raptor 6280 Level II
   * Safariland Raptor 6070 Level III
   * Safariland 070 SSIII Level III
   * All holsters must be black smooth leather or web textured (no basket weave).

Magazine pouch that accommodates two magazines (black smooth leather or web textured) must also be purchased.


I think I've decided on the Safariland 6280 holster, but there are so many mag pouch choices than I don't know where to begin. Same with belts. Could anyone offer some suggestions?
Link Posted: 4/17/2007 9:10:19 PM EDT
[#1]
Once you get the holster and the finish, sticking with Safariland will be pretty easy.  

I've purchased most all of my stuff from OMB's Express Police Supply, Inc..

I have Bianchi Accumold nylon rig with a Safariland 070 "nylok" finish.  It matches up pretty well, and the holster is great.

Also: www.safariland.com
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 5:01:23 AM EDT
[#2]
6280 is a great holster. I have a mix and match of Safariland, Blackhawk, and Uncle Mike's duty gear. If they're letting you get web gear, do that definitely. It's lighter and more durable. Plus, if your dept has BDU's, and all you've got is a dress leather belt... well it just doesn't look right.

Good luck and have fun!
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 10:37:42 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
Plus, if your dept has BDU's, and all you've got is a dress leather belt... well it just doesn't look right.


I have been trying to tell some people at my agency this for quite awhile.
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 2:08:20 PM EDT
[#4]
If your dept will allow it go with an open top mag pouch.  The 6280 is a good schoice.
Link Posted: 4/18/2007 3:42:47 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
If your dept will allow it go with an open top mag pouch.  The 6280 is a good schoice.


Do you use one?

I've thought about it but I can always just see them falling out too easily.
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 7:25:09 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:

Quoted:
If your dept will allow it go with an open top mag pouch.  The 6280 is a good schoice.


Do you use one?

I've thought about it but I can always just see them falling out too easily.


I am concerned about this too. Being an IPSC/IDPA shooter, I know they work well for shooting, but I could see them falling out while running.
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 9:20:06 PM EDT
[#7]
I use the safariland competition mag pouches.  They work fine for me.  I  did have three separate  ones on my rig but cut down to two so I could make room for the OC spray.  So far I haven't had a mag come out when it wasn't supposed to do so.  They have set screws so you can adjust the tension on them.  I believe they are model 770.  I ordered them direct and specified that they fit a duty belt instead of a competition rig.  If you get them, set them up the way you want them then use locktite on the screws.  They will come loose on ya if you don't.


and before pp603 mentions it,  Yes I have fallen head over teakettle and not lost any gear.
Link Posted: 4/19/2007 9:26:22 PM EDT
[#8]
Safariland makes the best holsters.

Bianchi makes nice real leather everything else.

Bianchi makes the best pretend leather nylon basketweave stuff

Bianch makes the besl nylon duty gear.
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 3:20:44 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
I've started a couple thread regarding duty weapons, but now have a question about gear. Along with a handgun, I must also purchase a holster and mag pouches before the academy starts. Although not mentioned, I would assume a duty belt would be need to hold these up. I wish we didn't have to buy these beforehand because I don't know where to begin.

Here's the requirements listed on the list:

Holsters must be one of the following:

   * Safariland Raptor 6270 Level II
   * Safariland Raptor 6280 Level II
   * Safariland Raptor 6070 Level III
   * Safariland 070 SSIII Level III
   * All holsters must be black smooth leather or web textured (no basket weave).

Magazine pouch that accommodates two magazines (black smooth leather or web textured) must also be purchased.


I think I've decided on the Safariland 6280 holster, but there are so many mag pouch choices than I don't know where to begin. Same with belts. Could anyone offer some suggestions?


try staying "pure" with your gear. Mixing and matching  can lead to a goofy looking rig, due to manufacturing differences. And yes, how it looks matters.

I would recommend the SSIII 070. It rides higher than your other choices and with practice, is very fast. The ride height lends itself to better retention since a proper interview stance will partially block the weapon. Just my 0.02, but the other holsters are too low. they can sometimes dig into the car seat and a contribute to back pain issues. I had a freind of mine go through that. I lent him a 070 and after a few days, his back pain subsided. Ultimately it is your call.

Well, I have blathered on long enough. remember, however that officer presence is the first level of of force on the use of force continuum, and that your appearance has an impact on hiw people will relate to you.keep your uniforms pressed and your gear clean and serviceable. If someone tells you differant, they know dick and aren't policing correctly, ignore them.

Carry, on and good luck.
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 9:58:53 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I've started a couple thread regarding duty weapons, but now have a question about gear. Along with a handgun, I must also purchase a holster and mag pouches before the academy starts. Although not mentioned, I would assume a duty belt would be need to hold these up. I wish we didn't have to buy these beforehand because I don't know where to begin.

Here's the requirements listed on the list:

Holsters must be one of the following:

   * Safariland Raptor 6270 Level II
   * Safariland Raptor 6280 Level II
   * Safariland Raptor 6070 Level III
   * Safariland 070 SSIII Level III
   * All holsters must be black smooth leather or web textured (no basket weave).

Magazine pouch that accommodates two magazines (black smooth leather or web textured) must also be purchased.


I think I've decided on the Safariland 6280 holster, but there are so many mag pouch choices than I don't know where to begin. Same with belts. Could anyone offer some suggestions?


try staying "pure" with your gear. Mixing and matching  can lead to a goofy looking rig, due to manufacturing differences. And yes, how it looks matters.I would recommend the SSIII 070. It rides higher than your other choices and with practice, is very fast. The ride height lends itself to better retention since a proper interview stance will partially block the weapon. Just my 0.02, but the other holsters are too low. they can sometimes dig into the car seat and a contribute to back pain issues. I had a freind of mine go through that. I lent him a 070 and after a few days, his back pain subsided. Ultimately it is your call.

Well, I have blathered on long enough. remember, however that officer presence is the first level of of force on the use of force continuum, and that your appearance has an impact on hiw people will relate to you.keep your uniforms pressed and your gear clean and serviceable. If someone tells you differant, they know dick and aren't policing correctly, ignore them.

Carry, on and good luck.
 

+1

The only negative with the 070 is that it will not accommodate a light on your gun.   However it will assist you with thwarting gun grabs.  Great holster.
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 11:42:22 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I've started a couple thread regarding duty weapons, but now have a question about gear. Along with a handgun, I must also purchase a holster and mag pouches before the academy starts. Although not mentioned, I would assume a duty belt would be need to hold these up. I wish we didn't have to buy these beforehand because I don't know where to begin.

Here's the requirements listed on the list:

Holsters must be one of the following:

   * Safariland Raptor 6270 Level II
   * Safariland Raptor 6280 Level II
   * Safariland Raptor 6070 Level III
   * Safariland 070 SSIII Level III
   * All holsters must be black smooth leather or web textured (no basket weave).

Magazine pouch that accommodates two magazines (black smooth leather or web textured) must also be purchased.


I think I've decided on the Safariland 6280 holster, but there are so many mag pouch choices than I don't know where to begin. Same with belts. Could anyone offer some suggestions?


try staying "pure" with your gear. Mixing and matching  can lead to a goofy looking rig, due to manufacturing differences. And yes, how it looks matters.

I would recommend the SSIII 070. It rides higher than your other choices and with practice, is very fast. The ride height lends itself to better retention since a proper interview stance will partially block the weapon. Just my 0.02, but the other holsters are too low. they can sometimes dig into the car seat and a contribute to back pain issues. I had a freind of mine go through that. I lent him a 070 and after a few days, his back pain subsided. Ultimately it is your call.

Well, I have blathered on long enough. remember, however that officer presence is the first level of of force on the use of force continuum, and that your appearance has an impact on hiw people will relate to you.keep your uniforms pressed and your gear clean and serviceable. If someone tells you differant, they know dick and aren't policing correctly, ignore them.

Carry, on and good luck.


Absolutely +1 on all accounts.
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 5:38:41 PM EDT
[#12]
If it is to be a duty rig make sure the holster is a level 3.
Link Posted: 4/20/2007 8:23:02 PM EDT
[#13]
I have recently considered going to the hooded style holsters in level 2 or 3. If you know some officers who have different models, see if you can test drive a couple.

I've used a 070 for 10years and it is the easiest from a seated position for me(right handed).I remember you were possibly going to use a rail-light, so this holster would be out unless you carry your light on your belt.

Good luck topgunpilot20.


Link Posted: 4/21/2007 6:06:35 AM EDT
[#14]
I use a level 2 holster.  I tried out a level 3 once and it was just too much of a pain in the ass.  I am sure that with practice it could be speedy, however I am already plenty fast and plenty secure with my level 2.
Link Posted: 4/21/2007 7:46:57 AM EDT
[#15]
I use a level III holster and after practice am just as fast as anyone else in the dept.  Also presence is the most important thing.  I use the same open top mag holders and never had a problem yet, the snaps break alot in the colder climates depending on what brand they are, which can get expensive if you are buying your own gear.
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