Could the North win a Civil War against the South today.

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Posted: 8/11/2007 3:19:19 PM EDT

Let’s say for the sake of Argument that in the future liberalism-socialism gets to the point that southern states can accept it no longer and attack the liberal states to restore the nation.

Could Northerners today beat the Southerners like they did in the first civil war?

One thing that I think is interesting is that most of the liberal northern states discourage firearm ownership and discourage firearm mastery. A large majority of the northerners live in cities and are either thugs or typical liberals.

They took the ability for their citizens to protect themselves.

Let’s say that the bases are loyal to their states and the military is divided in two equally. Northern Armies made up of Northerners and Southern Armies are made up of Southerners or those loyal to Red states ideals.

Neither side is allowed to use nuclear weapons due to MAD.

How would states like New Jersey, New York, Massachusetts and California fare against southern states like Texas, Florida, and other typically red states.

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:21:30 PM EDT

[#1]

Could the North win a Civil against the South today.

NOT A CHANCE!!!!............But we welcome the opportunity!!!

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:27:01 PM EDT

[#2]

Quoted:

Could the North win a Civil against the South today.

NOT A CHANCE!!!!............But we welcome the opportunity!!!

Amen brother, do we get to keep our slaves this time?

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:27:12 PM EDT

[#3]

I would hate to see it happen, however the South would dominate through superior infrastructure as well: Oil/petroleum refineries, massive agriculture, cattle/ranching/etc. & heavy industry in the south is much stronger now than it used to be.

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:27:23 PM EDT

[#4]

Anybody want to graph this out by state?

http://www.swivel.com/data_sets/spreadsheet/1003599

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:27:57 PM EDT

[#5]

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:29:38 PM EDT

[#6]

How would you divide the states that didn't exist during the 1st Civil War? Would it be the original 13 Confederate States against the others?

How about for CW II, we have conservative vs. liberal states? I think population wise, it would be pretty much a 50/50 split. We would definitely kick ass and take names.

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:30:16 PM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
I would hate to see it happen, however the South would dominate through superior infrastructure as well: Oil/petroleum refineries, massive agriculture, cattle/ranching/etc. & heavy industry in the south is much stronger now than it used to be.

Thats what I am talking about northerners lost every advantage they had and became weaker both mentally and in manufacturing.

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:30:58 PM EDT

[#8]

I would have to agree - there is no way in hell the northern "yankee, metrosexual, touchy-feely, anti-death penalty, criminal coddling, anti-gun" north would EVER defeat the Southern States if there were to be a so-called "Civil War" in today's historical context.

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:31:04 PM EDT

[#9]

Which ever side the military backed would win.

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:32:29 PM EDT

[#10]

If you let Texans take the lead, we could probably beat you in a few days.

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:33:28 PM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:
How would you divide the states that didn't exist during the 1st Civil War? Would it be the original 13 Confederate States against the others?

How about for CW II, we have conservative vs. liberal states? I think population wise, it would be pretty much a 50/50 split. We would definitely kick ass and take names.

Typical blue against typical red. By ideals those states that are traditionally liberal would fight against those states that are typically conservative.

The ideals guide the lines more than anything else.

The blue states wish for a socialism heaven.

Red states want to end Blues corruption of the the constitution.

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:34:14 PM EDT

[#12]

It had been a while since the last southerner circle-jerk thread.

I guess we were due.

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:35:12 PM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
Which ever side the military backed would win.

Military would fracture because of a disolved congress and no national support only regional support from those who are loyal to their sides.

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:35:38 PM EDT

[#14]

I don't wish it to go down, but the results would be way different than the first go around.

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:36:10 PM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
It had been a while since the last southerner circle-jerk thread.

I guess we were due.

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:37:32 PM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
It had been a while since the last southerner circle-jerk thread.

I guess we were due.

Would you fight for a socialist heaven. Or join the red states in ending the Liberal madness. It isn't so much about the state it is about ideals politics.

You either support liberal ideals or you fight them.

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:39:23 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:
It had been a while since the last southerner circle-jerk thread.

I guess we were due.

Oh, no. I'll be hanging out at the other end of the camp where the ho tents are located.

Bring cash, my bitches don't work for free.

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:42:47 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
How would you divide the states that didn't exist during the 1st Civil War? Would it be the original 13 Confederate States against the others?

How about for CW II, we have conservative vs. liberal states? I think population wise, it would be pretty much a 50/50 split. We would definitely kick ass and take names.

I think the south as a whole is very conservative, save for several parts in jawjuh that would be full of hippies and thus relegated to artillery barrage practice zones.

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:43:26 PM EDT

[#19]

Notice how nobody from the winning side makes topics like this?

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:46:11 PM EDT

[#20]

And will you get William Jefferson Clinton to play the role of Jefferson Davis?

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:46:52 PM EDT

[#21]

I throw my lot in with the south...

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:46:54 PM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:
How would you divide the states that didn't exist during the 1st Civil War? Would it be the original 13 Confederate States against the others?

How about for CW II, we have conservative vs. liberal states? I think population wise, it would be pretty much a 50/50 split. We would definitely kick ass and take names.

I think the south as a whole is very conservative, save for several parts in jawjuh that would be full of hippies and thus relegated to artillery barrage practice zones.

I believe that those who live in red states and side with the blues states would be sent to relocation camps for the majority of the war. Hopefully liberals can reeducated to see the harm their policies bring to America.

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:46:57 PM EDT

[#23]

I guess I should post this again.

This ridiculous myth of "liberal" states and "conservative" states needs to die.

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:47:37 PM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:
And will you get William Jefferson Clinton to play the role of Jefferson Davis?

No he would be the Blue states Lincoln they suck his dick so much.

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:48:52 PM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:
How would you divide the states that didn't exist during the 1st Civil War? Would it be the original 13 Confederate States against the others?

How about for CW II, we have conservative vs. liberal states? I think population wise, it would be pretty much a 50/50 split. We would definitely kick ass and take names.

I think the south as a whole is very conservative, save for several parts in jawjuh that would be full of hippies and thus relegated to artillery barrage practice zones.

I believe that those who live in red states and side with the blues states would be sent to relocation camps for the majority of the war. Hopefully liberals can reeducated to see the harm their policies bring to America.

Harm?

Like the harm of a civil war? Which "side" seems to have a hard on for that topic?

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:49:25 PM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:
i10.photobucket.com/albums/a103/thedoctors308/confederate_flagcopy.jpg

Notice how nobody from the winning side makes topics like this?

That's because ya'll know the truth about now. Ya'll don't want it stirred back up

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:49:33 PM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:
I guess I should post this again.

This ridiculous myth of "liberal" states and "conservative" states needs to die.

images.usatoday.com/news/electmap.jpg

See all those little blue blotches in a sea of red in certain states those people would go to special reeducation camps to cure their minds and souls.

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:50:23 PM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:
Harm?

Like the harm of a civil war? Which "side" seems to have a hard on for that topic?

The same side that started the last war.

The "War Of Northern Agression" indeed.

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:50:25 PM EDT

[#29]

140 some years and thats all you got?

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:51:03 PM EDT

[#30]

Quoted:

Quoted:
And will you get William Jefferson Clinton to play the role of Jefferson Davis?

No he would be the Blue states Lincoln they suck his dick so much.

But golly, he is a born and raised Son of the South, and even won quite a few Southern states during his two presidential campaigns.

So it's decided: The posterboy of the South for the new Civil War will be William Jefferson Clinton.

Or would you rather have Nagin or John Edwards at the helm?

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:52:51 PM EDT

[#31]

Make no mistake if this nation ever decends into Civil War again it will be so bloody and so harsh that nothing will ever match it in death and suffering.

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:53:55 PM EDT

[#32]

Quoted:
Anybody want to graph this out by state?

http://www.swivel.com/data_sets/spreadsheet/1003599

State est gunownership
DC 21,052
Hawaii 116,754
Rhode Island 127,744
Delaware 204,000
Vermont 267,960
North Dakota 335,634
Wyoming 339,096
New Hampshire 367,200
Alaska 404,600
South Dakota 439,782
Maine 520,425
Connecticut 553,939
Montana 580,462
New Mexico 647,280
Nebraska 679,746
Nevada 699,660
Massachusetts 795,060
Idaho 818,440
New Jersey 1,005,894
West Virginia 1,019,914
Utah 1,058,429
Kansas 1,162,381
Maryland 1,164,471
Iowa 1,258,748
Oregon 1,437,974
Oklahoma 1,497,639
Arkansas 1,520,750
Colorado 1,550,396
Mississippi 1,608,124
Arizona 1,626,530
South Carolina 1,631,934
Kentucky 1,954,746
Louisiana 1,999,935
Washington 2,071,398
Minnesota 2,087,085
Missouri 2,384,406
Alabama 2,394,227
Indiana 2,430,065
Wisconsin 2,432,676
Illinois 2,477,732
Virginia 2,570,724
Tennessee 2,619,074
North Carolina 3,211,901
New York 3,266,280
Georgia 3,390,439
Ohio 3,702,672
Michigan 3,748,992
Florida 3,988,355
Pennsylvania 4,261,507
California 7,335,933
Texas 7,713,833

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:54:22 PM EDT

[#33]

I have a question. What is the war about?

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:55:02 PM EDT

[#34]

Quoted:
I have a question. What is the war about?

Soda vs. Pop vs. 'Coke'.

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:55:16 PM EDT

[#35]

Here we go again with southerners being obsessed with the Civil War.

It's over. The north won. Move on with your life.

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:55:24 PM EDT

[#36]

Quoted:

Quoted:
And will you get William Jefferson Clinton to play the role of Jefferson Davis?

No he would be the Blue states Lincoln they suck his dick so much.

But golly, he is a born and raised Son of the South, and even won quite a few Southern states during his two presidential campaigns.

So it's decided: The posterboy of the South for the new Civil War will be William Jefferson Clinton.

img451.imageshack.us/img451/5395/clintonportraitko4gt4.jpg

Or would you rather have Nagin or John Edwards at the helm?

You got it wrong home boy. We get Bush, you get Kerry... and Ted Kennedy can be VP

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:56:25 PM EDT

[#37]

Quoted:
I have a question. What is the war about?

Good one.

Good luck with them agreeing on an answer.

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:56:30 PM EDT

[#38]

Quoted:
I have a question. What is the war about?

I think CW2 would/will be Blue vs. Red states.

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:56:33 PM EDT

[#39]

Quoted:
You got it wrong home boy. We get Bush, you get Kerry... and Ted Kennedy can be VP

Man, you guys have been suckered but good if you think Bush is a Texan or a Southerner.
He is pure New England blue blood WASP.

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:57:13 PM EDT

[#40]

Quoted:

Quoted:
And will you get William Jefferson Clinton to play the role of Jefferson Davis?

No he would be the Blue states Lincoln they suck his dick so much.

But golly, he is a born and raised Son of the South, and even won quite a few Southern states during his two presidential campaigns.

So it's decided: The posterboy of the South for the new Civil War will be William Jefferson Clinton.

img451.imageshack.us/img451/5395/clintonportraitko4gt4.jpg

Or would you rather have Nagin or John Edwards at the helm?

He is the Liberals god. The states are decided by Red vs Blue. socialism against conservatives. Those who support blue states support increased welfare, free national heath care, massive taxes used for typical liberal-socialism ideals. That is right up Clintons alley.

He is more northerner than southerner. Thats why he moved to NYC after his presidency.

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:57:48 PM EDT

[#41]

If there was any sort of civil war in this day and age, (Which isn't going to happen anytime soon, if at all.) it would be far worse because the polarity of the nation isn't seperated by the mason dixon.

It would be like Civil War era Kansas/Missouri all over the country.

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:57:50 PM EDT

[#42]

It would be the same as before. IL would produce the arms, detroit would make the war wagons and NY, NY would front the $. We also have Boeing and a host of other companies, good luck running a computer. The North would be marching on Montgomery in less then a week.

Does anyone take the serious?

-JTP

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:58:28 PM EDT

[#43]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I have a question. What is the war about?

I think CW2 would/will be Blue vs. Red states.

Really?
How many people identify themselves as a resident of a state as opposed to identifying themselves as American?
The historical reality is that regionalism is dead.
With a more mobile population, people don't stay in one place for generation after generation.

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:59:26 PM EDT

[#44]

Quoted:
You got it wrong home boy. We get Bush, you get Kerry... and Ted Kennedy can be VP

GWB was born in Connecticut, which I don't believe is in the South. And Kerry and Ted were never President, so the leadership will be something like:

GHWB and GWB

vs.

William Jefferson Clinton and Jimmy Carter.

Posted: 8/11/2007 3:59:36 PM EDT

[#45]

Quoted:
He is the Liberals god. The states are decided by Red vs Blue. socialism against conservatives. Those who support blue states support increased welfare, free national heath care, massive taxes used for typical liberal-socialism ideals. That is right up Clintons alley.

He is more northerner than southerner. Thats why he moved to NYC after his presidency.

As long as we are painting with a broad brush, most of the poor, white trash down south seems to eat that shit up just as much, if not more so, than the North.

Posted: 8/11/2007 4:00:45 PM EDT

[#46]

Quoted:
GHWB and GWB

vs.

William Jefferson Clinton and Jimmy Carter.

From being lead by educated and wealthy plantation owners to being led by a bastard child and a peanut farmer!

Posted: 8/11/2007 4:00:46 PM EDT

[#47]

I love the idea about sending those that don't think your way to "reeducation camps". Nice phrasing there commie.

Posted: 8/11/2007 4:01:25 PM EDT

[#48]

Quoted:
How would you divide the states that didn't exist during the 1st Civil War? Would it be the original 13 Confederate States against the others?

How about for CW II, we have conservative vs. liberal states? I think population wise, it would be pretty much a 50/50 split. We would definitely kick ass and take names.

I know I live in an ultra lib-tard state. It only makes me more conservative. It would be paradise here if it weren't for all the bleeding hearts.
I don't think liberal/conservative values (or lack of) follow state lines as closely as some would believe.

Posted: 8/11/2007 4:01:32 PM EDT

[#49]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I have a question. What is the war about?

Soda vs. Pop vs. 'Coke'.

Damn right. We'll teach the blue bellies once and for all that it's "Coke"

Posted: 8/11/2007 4:01:52 PM EDT

[#50]

Quoted:
If you let Texans take the lead, we could probably beat you in a few days.

what a bunch of garbage

if general lee had followed the sound advice of major general john hood at the battle of gettysburg, the world might be a very different place today

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