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Posted: 8/15/2005 7:37:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/15/2005 10:42:05 AM EDT by VoodooChile]
The good news is the Z06 gets the second fastest production car time ever (7min 42secs)...almost 30 secs faster than the Viper and 10 secs faster than the 2 Lamborghini models for sale now.

Bad news is it seems to have some downforce issues.



Current Motor Trend mentions the good track time but doesn't show the pics of it airborne
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 7:39:13 AM EDT
What's wrong with air time? Gotta be able to get out a "yee-haw" at some point.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 7:39:55 AM EDT
I bet the traction control is going beserk. Cool Pic.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 7:42:50 AM EDT
Airborne? Hell, pin a set of "jump wings" on it and be proud. Bo and Luke Duke would approve.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 7:44:52 AM EDT
The 'Ring is crazy! They have days where you can drive on it,simply sign a form,and you're off.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 7:45:51 AM EDT
That's just dead sexy.

put a wing on it...more downforce yo!
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 7:46:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Dolomite:
What's wrong with air time? Gotta be able to get out a "yee-haw" at some point.


When you catch some air on a turn, youll be saying "OH SHIT!!!" not yee haw Than youll find yourself rolling in a ditch.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 7:50:38 AM EDT
That track is nasty. There are a couple of declines right after a long straight away.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 7:52:03 AM EDT
serious pucker right there
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 7:52:08 AM EDT
So what production car got the fastest time?
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 7:53:59 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MattyMattel:
The 'Ring is crazy! They have days where you can drive on it,simply sign a form,and you're off.



GM had it rented out for this one....couldn't have any tourists getting in the way.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 7:57:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By PAEBR332:
So what production car got the fastest time?



The Porsche GT ...The $500,000 + mid engined one is 10 secs faster around the ring..The Z06 is actually tied for second with the Porsche 996 GT2..The regular C6 gets it done in 17secs slower than the Z06
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 7:59:36 AM EDT

Originally Posted By VoodooChile:

Originally Posted By PAEBR332:
So what production car got the fastest time?



The Porsche GT ...The $500,000 + mid engined one is 10 secs faster around the ring..The Z06 is actually tied for second with the Porsche 996 GT2..The regular C6 gets it done in 17secs slower than the Z06



Thanks. For the money the Z06 is tough to beat.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 7:59:38 AM EDT
There was an article about the 'Ring in one of those European car mags,in the pics,you could tell they were running balls out. Motorcycles too,one was killed there at that time.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 8:25:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By VoodooChile:

Originally Posted By PAEBR332:
So what production car got the fastest time?



The Porsche GT ...The $500,000 + mid engined one is 10 secs faster around the ring..The Z06 is actually tied for second with the Porsche 996 GT2..The regular C6 gets it done in 17secs slower than the Z06



Heh

I'm sure that all 15 Porsche Carreras that have been made since 2003 will be happy to know that they are "production cars." Hell, the 996 costs 200k...

The Z06 is around 58-63 depending on how hard the dealer humps your leg.

ACK! Must have one.

Link Posted: 8/15/2005 8:28:43 AM EDT
That's the most hideous 'vette that I've ever seen.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 8:42:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/15/2005 8:54:06 AM EDT by FunYun1983]
But there is nothing sweeter then hearing that 5.7L V10 hit 9k rpm. The thing sounds like a mechanical monster.

Also, in racing, cost rises exponentialy to for every 5 secs you try to shave off. The Carrera GT has had infinitly more wind tunnel testing then the Vette, hence the price, along with much lower production numbers and V10 DOHC engin that goes to almost 10k rpms is not cheap, especialy compared to a cheap big cube enigine like the LS7.

Your paying more for status than speed with thse cars. You want to fly around on a track and still be street legal then look at the GTM by Factory Five racing. For $35k max you have a race car that weights 2200lbs and a 400+hp LS2.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 8:44:40 AM EDT
The lines are beautiful, but the headlights are hideous.

Link Posted: 8/15/2005 8:45:23 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Sub-MOA:

Originally Posted By VoodooChile:

Originally Posted By PAEBR332:
So what production car got the fastest time?



The Porsche GT ...The $500,000 + mid engined one is 10 secs faster around the ring..The Z06 is actually tied for second with the Porsche 996 GT2..The regular C6 gets it done in 17secs slower than the Z06



Heh

I'm sure that all 15 Porsche Carreras that have been made since 2003 will be happy to know that they are "production cars." Hell, the 996 costs 200k...

The Z06 is around 58-63 depending on how hard the dealer humps your leg.

ACK! Must have one.




Are you sure about that? I've seen regular C6's being sold for almost that much. Of course I assumed that the dealer was just ripping people off, but still. The rumors I heard was that the new Z06 would be almost 70 or even over 70.

Still a bargain relatively speaking though.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 8:46:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Katana16j:
The lines are beautiful, but the headlights are hideous.



Yes! It's those damn headlights!
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 8:47:31 AM EDT
There is a crazy kook who is putting a Z06 engine into a Miata,thats gonna be interesting!!!!
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 8:52:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/15/2005 8:57:07 AM EDT by Sub-MOA]

Originally Posted By NewbHunter:

Originally Posted By Sub-MOA:

Originally Posted By VoodooChile:

Originally Posted By PAEBR332:
So what production car got the fastest time?



The Porsche GT ...The $500,000 + mid engined one is 10 secs faster around the ring..The Z06 is actually tied for second with the Porsche 996 GT2..The regular C6 gets it done in 17secs slower than the Z06



Heh

I'm sure that all 15 Porsche Carreras that have been made since 2003 will be happy to know that they are "production cars." Hell, the 996 costs 200k...

The Z06 is around 58-63 depending on how hard the dealer humps your leg.

ACK! Must have one.




Are you sure about that? I've seen regular C6's being sold for almost that much. Of course I assumed that the dealer was just ripping people off, but still. The rumors I heard was that the new Z06 would be almost 70 or even over 70.

Still a bargain relatively speaking though.



The 2006 Z06s are still selling @ or above sticker in most places... Give it until November.

ETA: Pre order?
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 9:02:04 AM EDT

I'm sure that all 15 Porsche Carreras that have been made since 2003 will be happy to know that they are "production cars." Hell, the 996 costs 200k...

The Z06 is around 58-63 depending on how hard the dealer humps your leg.



If your going to bash the Porsche's...get your numbers right.

There have been THOUSANDS of porsche carreras made sense 2003. The 996 is a used car at this point and can be bought for $55,000 to $150,000 depending on model.

The Z06 is said to be WAY more then 58K.....the new C7 Covette is stickered about 60K. Exspect 75-80K for the Z06.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 9:04:16 AM EDT
the only way to help the downforce,


RICEY FUCKING WING!!!! I know its a travesty, but sometimes form must follow function.


I remember 5th gear with the latest 911 turbo. "And with the downforce provided, it keeps the car firmly stuck to the ground *JUMP, scrape* most of the time anyway"
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 9:41:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/15/2005 9:42:31 AM EDT by Manic_Moran]
He meant the Porsche Carerra GT, not the Porsche Carerra. It's like comparing the Ford Mustang GT with the Ford GT. Similar names, slightly different cars.

I wonder if there's a listed track time for the Ferrari Enzo or the Maserati MC12?

As a challenge, the BBC show Top Gear had one of their presenters try to do the nurburgring in under ten minutes in a Jaguar diesel. Upon proudly displaying his time to Sabine Schmidt (THE nurburgring expert), she retorted that she could do that time in a van.

Of course, they couldn't let that go, so they gave her a Ford Transit diesel, and set her on her way.

She was overtaking Porsches, BMWs, bikes and even Ferarris in her van. Just goes to show what you can do if you've a good driver. (And can you imagine what happened to the egos of those drivers as they overtaken by a Ford Transit?)

NTM
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 9:44:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By WS4LIF:

I'm sure that all 15 Porsche Carreras that have been made since 2003 will be happy to know that they are "production cars." Hell, the 996 costs 200k...

The Z06 is around 58-63 depending on how hard the dealer humps your leg.



If your going to bash the Porsche's...get your numbers right.

There have been THOUSANDS of porsche carreras made sense 2003. The 996 is a used car at this point and can be bought for $55,000 to $150,000 depending on model.

The Z06 is said to be WAY more then 58K.....the new C7 Covette is stickered about 60K. Exspect 75-80K for the Z06.



I just knew we would hear from from the penis galery... er peanut galery.

autos.msn.com/advice/article.aspx?contentid=4022595
(I'm pretty sure that they never built anything close to the planned 5K a year. I really doubt that they built more than a hundred)

and I'm pretty sure we were talking about the 996 GT3. Find me one for $55k :)
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 9:44:56 AM EDT
Badass car, but still can't go mudding or have room for a gun rack.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 9:47:43 AM EDT
I'd rather have a RUF Porsche. Built by guys that run the Autobahn daily
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 9:48:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By twonami:
I'd rather have a RUF Porsche. Built by guys that run the Autobahn daily


Not even in the same price class, that like saying I would rather have a ferrari
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 9:50:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/15/2005 9:51:31 AM EDT by twonami]

Originally Posted By olyarms:

Originally Posted By twonami:
I'd rather have a RUF Porsche. Built by guys that run the Autobahn daily


Not even in the same price class, that like saying I would rather have a ferrari


but I hate Ferraris
I really want a McLaren F-1
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 10:36:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/15/2005 10:41:08 AM EDT by AR-15Fan]
How the heck can you guys think the C6 Z06 is ugly?? It's one of the sweetest vettes I've ever seen, not to mention the performance... The regular C6 is mean as hell as well, the several I've seen in person blow away the C5s in appearance.







Link Posted: 8/15/2005 10:47:05 AM EDT
According to all the videogames I play that model tha track, there's some dips along some of the straights that would force any car going fast enough to jump.

No amount of downforce will save it.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 10:47:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/15/2005 10:48:59 AM EDT by VoodooChile]

Originally Posted By Manic_Moran:

I wonder if there's a listed track time for the Ferrari Enzo or the Maserati MC12?




I wondered about the Enzo and the McLaren F-1 myself..my figures come from this month's Motor Trend...BTW.. they do mention there are 2 separate tracks to the 'Ring so there may be 2 separate sets of stats.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 10:57:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By olyarms:

Originally Posted By twonami:
I'd rather have a RUF Porsche. Built by guys that run the Autobahn daily


Not even in the same price class, that like saying I would rather have a ferrari



True, but I'd have to agree that the RUF Porsche's are the all around top performing sports cars.

Link Posted: 8/15/2005 11:06:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AR-15Fan:
How the heck can you guys think the C6 Z06 is ugly?? It's one of the sweetest vettes I've ever seen, not to mention the performance... The regular C6 is mean as hell as well, the several I've seen in person blow away the C5s in appearance.

www.z06vette.com/gallery/data/500/2232PV_023354_.jpg

image28.webshots.com/28/5/71/30/299457130EZSJBG_ph.jpg

image26.webshots.com/27/6/31/66/299463166WVSIqR_ph.jpg

www.wpccc.net/images/C6%20Z06/Corvette_Mag_4.jpg




The shape is very nice - but those headlights make it look like a crappy riced-out Mitsubishi 3000GT
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 11:12:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Belfry_Express:
the only way to help the downforce,


RICEY FUCKING WING!!!! I know its a travesty, but sometimes form must follow function.






It's not ricey if it serves a legitimate purpose and isn't just there to look like a biplane crashed into the back of a car.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 11:15:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Manic_Moran:
She was overtaking Porsches, BMWs, bikes and even Ferarris in her van. Just goes to show what you can do if you've a good driver. (And can you imagine what happened to the egos of those drivers as they overtaken by a Ford Transit?)

NTM









pwn3d



I was reading a site dedicated to motorcycles. One guy was talking about the importance of riding skills versus jumping on the bike with the most HP. To prove this, he related a story that personally happened to him. He was doing track time at a place in SoCal, and was hammering this kid on a sport bike. The kid was getting all pissed off and frustrated, because he's riding a 600cc sportbike, and he's getting beaten by a guy on a KLR 250!!

Link Posted: 8/15/2005 11:21:13 AM EDT

Originally Posted By WS4LIF:

The Z06 is said to be WAY more then 58K.....the new C7 Covette is stickered about 60K. Exspect 75-80K for the Z06.




C7?


I doubt that is barely on the drawing board, since they just released the C6 Corvette
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 11:22:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AR-15Fan:
How the heck can you guys think the C6 Z06 is ugly??





Sorry but that is the view of the Corvette I hate most.

Looks like a down sized Viper.

Look at the lines of the two cars and you cannot tell me that the new Vette doesn't look like a smaller Viper.

One was driving right towards me the other day and for a moment I thought it was a fucking Viper, the headlights are almost spot on and the way the lines are formed with the nose meeting the front window makes it very viper-like.

Just wish the form they came up with was a bit more creative, great car but I liked the former body style more.
Link Posted: 8/15/2005 11:31:15 AM EDT

Originally Posted By twonami:
I'd rather have a RUF Porsche. Built by guys that run the Autobahn daily



I've run the Autobahn daily. I'll build you a ride.

Luck
Alac
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 7:01:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/16/2005 7:04:49 AM EDT by KlubMarcus]

Originally Posted By PAEBR332: Thanks. For the money the Z06 is tough to beat.
At 2nd place, it seems that it's tough to beat, period! C6 Z06's are going to start at $65k according to Chevrolet's website, I figure around $68k with goodies, then the dealer adds "market adjustment". But it's a Z06 Corvette, pay up or go home.



On a side note, Corvette buyers don't have to pay gas-guzzler tax.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 7:11:48 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MillerSHO:
According to all the videogames I play that model tha track, there's some dips along some of the straights that would force any car going fast enough to jump.

No amount of downforce will save it.



yes I have read this in Road and Track as well. There are certain areas where a little flying are part of the course at speed. There's nothing wrong with the ZO6's downforce, if there was, there'd be some additonal pics of what was left of the thing.

Link Posted: 8/16/2005 7:15:15 AM EDT
The new 'Vettes are straight-up sex on wheels.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 7:23:43 AM EDT
7mins 42secs is mental, I love the ring 13 miles of driving joy
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 7:35:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/16/2005 7:40:39 AM EDT by legalese77]
According to Road & Track, the C6 testing at Nurburgring was accompanied by the unmistakable sound of a supercharger. The cost of that bad boy is estimated to be 100k I'll post the blurb if I get a chance this afternoon.

p.s., this would fit in just swimmingly in the cars and bikes forum
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 7:42:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By legalese77:
According to Road & Track, the C6 testing at Nurburgring was accompanied by the unmistakable sound of a supercharger. The cost of that bad boy is estimated to be 100k I'll post the blurb if I get a chance this afternoon.



That was the highly hopeful and anticipated Super Vette ( not the Z06 ), dubbed the Blue Devil. Estimates are if they build it, probably be around $100k.

The ZO6 would be plenty for me, and what a bargain for $30k less
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 7:58:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/16/2005 7:59:11 AM EDT by KlubMarcus]

Originally Posted By legalese77:
was accompanied by the unmistakable sound of a supercharger.

You can buy aftermarket kits! Some shops will even back them up with a 2 year warranty, too. They'll get the C6 versions ironed out.

Link Posted: 8/16/2005 8:11:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By FunYun1983:
But there is nothing sweeter then hearing that 5.7L V10 hit 9k rpm. The thing sounds like a mechanical monster.

Also, in racing, cost rises exponentialy to for every 5 secs you try to shave off. The Carrera GT has had infinitly more wind tunnel testing then the Vette, hence the price, along with much lower production numbers and V10 DOHC engin that goes to almost 10k rpms is not cheap, especialy compared to a cheap big cube enigine like the LS7.

Your paying more for status than speed with thse cars. You want to fly around on a track and still be street legal then look at the GTM by Factory Five racing. For $35k max you have a race car that weights 2200lbs and a 400+hp LS2.



I'm having a hard time believing the stock valvetrain will handle 10k......
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 9:16:28 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 9:32:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/16/2005 10:06:53 AM EDT by Blue_Monkey]
Someone posted a video of a BMW M3 GTR doing the 'Ring a while back. It was awesome!
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 9:49:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Polyak:

That was the highly hopeful and anticipated Super Vette ( not the Z06 ), dubbed the Blue Devil. Estimates are if they build it, probably be around $100k.

The ZO6 would be plenty for me, and what a bargain for $30k less



Well, either way...here's the R&T blurb:

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