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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:14:47 PM EDT
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A police officer interrupted a robbery of the Walgreens store early Thursday morning, the second at the store in less than four hours. The officer entered the store around 5:45 a.m. to pick up surveillance video of the initial robbery, which happened at 2:15 a.m. at the 2710 Salem Ave. pharmacy in Dayton OH the gun to the head made me go  guy got tossed around a few times though |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:19:12 PM EDT
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Wow..all kinds of fail in that video.
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:19:53 PM EDT
[#2]
 Dumb ass move. Guess he saw it in the movies.
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:24:08 PM EDT
[#3]
shoulda tazed him, bro...
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:24:47 PM EDT
[#4]
I'm don't nkow anything about proper procedure for this kind of thing, but what did he do wrong?
He saw the guy was robbing the store, drew his gun, grabbed the guy and put the gun to his head. I don't know how that should have been handled, but what else could he have done? He was right next to the guy so how else do you aim a gun at someone when you're that close? Sure he could have backed up, but I bet the guy would have bolted. again, sorry for the ignorance, I'm just curious. |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:29:00 PM EDT
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Quoted: I'm don't nkow anything about proper procedure for this kind of thing, but what did he do wrong? He saw the guy was robbing the store, drew his gun, grabbed the guy and put the gun to his head. I don't know how that should have been handled, but what else could he have done? He was right next to the guy so how else do you aim a gun at someone when you're that close? Sure he could have backed up, but I bet the guy would have bolted. again, sorry for the ignorance, I'm just curious. I got a little nervous when the cop reached forward of the muzzle, but I understand it. |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:32:03 PM EDT
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The perp reached for his weapon, at that point he was cleared to shoot.
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:32:10 PM EDT
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This is not going to go over well for that officer.
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:33:06 PM EDT
[#8]
Looked like he was trying to put his gun away while fighting the guy.
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:34:25 PM EDT
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Cop probably thought the BG had a firearm of his own in his hand.
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:34:53 PM EDT
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Murphy's Law
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:35:15 PM EDT
[#11]
Did the cop holster his gun when the robber got frisky? Would have been a
good shoot wouldn't it? |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:35:29 PM EDT
[#12]
If you have a weapon that allows you to put a little distance between yourself and your violent target, you should put a little distance between yourself and target.
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:35:48 PM EDT
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Quoted:
Quoted:
I'm don't nkow anything about proper procedure for this kind of thing, but what did he do wrong? He saw the guy was robbing the store, drew his gun, grabbed the guy and put the gun to his head. I don't know how that should have been handled, but what else could he have done? He was right next to the guy so how else do you aim a gun at someone when you're that close? Sure he could have backed up, but I bet the guy would have bolted. again, sorry for the ignorance, I'm just curious. I got a little nervous when the cop reached forward of the muzzle, but I understand it. That's why they have radios. That was bad. So much could have gone wrong . Cop got lucky |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:36:08 PM EDT
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Quoted: Murphy's Law No shit! "Oh man, it's warm in here. Think I'll get a hot chocOHYOUHAVEGOTOTOBEKIDDINGMEGODDDAMNIT!" |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:36:10 PM EDT
[#15]
taser ?
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:36:47 PM EDT
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I got a little nervous when the cop reached forward of the muzzle, but I understand it. Sometimes you have to go hands on with the gun out. I is not a preferred practice. You want the weapon further away from the suspect. Yep, you may mask your hand or even shoot it. Shooting your own hand is better than getting your gun taken away and shot. It is a situation where you choose the method that has the least risk of death. |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:40:06 PM EDT
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Ok, I'm not a LEO but I am going to say that the officer made a mistake getting so close to the BG that the BG could grab him or his gun. Then the officer holstered his gun and fought the BG, I think this is a huge mistake since the BG could have pulled a gun or knife or simply kicked the officers ass.
So what should he have done, well once you tell a masked robber to put his hands up and he fails to do so then you shoot him. On another question what should a CCW holder have done? |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:42:36 PM EDT
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Don't draw the weapon unless you intend to fire? Or something like that. Looks like the gun became a liability once he realized the guy was not skeered of it.
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:43:16 PM EDT
[#19]
at about :46, I would have fired on the guy.
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:43:32 PM EDT
[#20]
Wasn't there, but I would have done things a bit differently. Needed some space between the two, and some orders for him to prone out would probably be the first on my list.
But who knows. Again this is just me playing chair commando.
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:44:42 PM EDT
[#21]
Lethal force should have been used... |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:44:42 PM EDT
[#22]
Would it be a good shoot if the cop shot the perp as he was reaching for his gun? It seems like it would have been a good shoot to me.
That cop showed great restraint. |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:45:34 PM EDT
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Quoted: If you have a weapon that allows you to put a little distance between yourself and your violent target, you should put a little distance between yourself and target. No shit. If you're gonna put a gonna to someones head, you better do it with some velocity. (pistol whip). But I kinda doubt that was in the handbook.
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:45:42 PM EDT
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Quoted:
Wasn't there, but I would have done things a bit differently. Needed some space between the two, and some orders for him to prone out would probably be the first on my list. But who knows. Again this is just me playing chair commando. That is the preferred method. He may have been unsure if the guy was armed with a gun on the clerk too. That could be why he went up close instead. Close shot, remove some backdrop issues, and get the suspect away from the clerk(victim). |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:46:02 PM EDT
[#25]
GD would be in full bitch mode if the officer had fired.
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:46:05 PM EDT
[#26]
The guy is lucky he didn't get shot. Cops life was in danger, sorry Charlie!
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:46:21 PM EDT
[#27]
I was at that particular place not all that long ago
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:46:55 PM EDT
[#28]
Should have just pistol-whipped the guy from behind.
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:49:57 PM EDT
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If you have a weapon that allows you to put a little distance between yourself and your violent target, you should put a little distance between yourself and target. So the guy has a chance to turn on you? |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:53:59 PM EDT
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If you have a weapon that allows you to put a little distance between yourself and your violent target, you should put a little distance between yourself and target. Can't argue with that. 
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:58:02 PM EDT
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Should have just pistol-whipped the guy from behind. That would have ended badly if it were a Glock. Mass casualties. |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:58:46 PM EDT
[#32]
Seems like the situation could have been handled better...
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Posted: 12/16/2010 6:59:11 PM EDT
[#33]
Gonna have to watch this one a few times. He did reholster smoothly
under stress...that proved useful for when he went two hands on. |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 7:00:35 PM EDT
[#34]
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Seems like the situation could have been handled better... Bad guy has one hand in the cash register and one in his pocket. He didn't seem too impressed when a gun was put to his head. How would you handle it? |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 7:09:09 PM EDT
[#35]
This little 3 mile stretch in Dayton is becoming famous this week, first the cop who is getting beat up and a woman jumps out of her car to rescue him and now this.
What is sad is that because of "racial" BS involved in the hiring process the local police force has been having trouble hiring in new officers and is way under staffed. So glad that I conceal carry since I have to go through this stretch to and from work. West Dayton for the 
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Posted: 12/16/2010 7:13:45 PM EDT
[#36]
Not only am I ok with the gun to the head, I would've been ok if the cop shot him when he didn't comply.
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Posted: 12/16/2010 7:17:59 PM EDT
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Would it be a good shoot if the cop shot the perp as he was reaching for his gun? It seems like it would have been a good shoot to me. That cop showed great restraint. And if the cop HAD shot the BG when he reached for it, you woul dhva ejust as many people in here creaming about the Cop "Playing Judge Jury and Executioner"..... In the end the Cop walked away, and the BG got his..happy ending all around. |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 7:18:50 PM EDT
[#38]
Thats why police patrol in pairs.
You draw a gun and now you only have one hand free, perp has two. Perp refuses verbal commands and resists handcuffing, he has two hands free you have one. Now you have trouble. And nope, i'm not a cop but i did sleep at the holiday inn last night. |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 7:20:32 PM EDT
[#39]
Quoted: Now you have trouble. I disagree...you have a free hand with a gun in it. |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 7:20:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/16/2010 7:21:11 PM EDT
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Quoted: Thats why police patrol in pairs in movies. You draw a gun and now you only have one hand free, perp has two. Perp refuses verbal commands and resists handcuffing, he has two hands free you have one. Now you have trouble. And nope, i'm not a cop but i did sleep at the holiday inn last night. |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 7:21:45 PM EDT
[#42]
 , a perfect opportunity to use one
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Posted: 12/16/2010 7:22:34 PM EDT
[#43]
Perp got lucky the janitor wasn't moping up his brains in isle 3.
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Posted: 12/16/2010 7:23:34 PM EDT
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Not only am I ok with the gun to the head, I would've been ok if the cop shot him when he didn't comply. So would a Grand Jury. |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 7:29:01 PM EDT
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The cop was clear to shoot. As soon as he started reaching foe the gun a shot to the face was perfectly justifiable.
But stupid move on his part. The handgun is supposed to give you stand-off distance. |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 7:31:06 PM EDT
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This little 3 mile stretch in Dayton is becoming famous this week, first the cop who is getting beat up and a woman jumps out of her car to rescue him and now this. What is sad is that because of "racial" BS involved in the hiring process the local police force has been having trouble hiring in new officers and is way under staffed. So glad that I conceal carry since I have to go through this stretch to and from work. West Dayton for the Too true. I wanted to apply with them, but upon looking into it more, I realized I have no chance. It's pathetic, really. |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 7:34:24 PM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
Ok, I'm not a LEO but I am going to say that the officer made a mistake getting so close to the BG that the BG could grab him or his gun. Then the officer holstered his gun and fought the BG, I think this is a huge mistake since the BG could have pulled a gun or knife or simply kicked the officers ass. So what should he have done, well once you tell a masked robber to put his hands up and he fails to do so then you shoot him. On another question what should a CCW holder have done? sucker punched the BG. broken a few ribs when the BG was hunched over with a swift kick, rear naked choke(if done correctly, they should begin to see spots in 2-3 seconds and be choked out within 5-10 seconds. |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 7:43:20 PM EDT
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Derp. Makes me want to never deal with cops.
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Posted: 12/16/2010 7:46:10 PM EDT
[#49]
Quoted: Quoted: If you have a weapon that allows you to put a little distance between yourself and your violent target, you should put a little distance between yourself and target. So the guy has a chance to turn on you? So he doesn't take your weapon, or any number things that one can do within arms reach that he can't do at a distance. |
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Posted: 12/16/2010 7:47:54 PM EDT
[#50]
It really pisses me off when cops abuse their authority and I think that cop should have been more violent. The guy was robbing the place which indicates he doesn't give two shits about other people and it also brings into question how he coerced the clerk into letting it happen. That cop would have been justified in shooting him or in knocking his damned teeth down his throat. Struggling with a guy who could get your gun and put one in your dome is not my idea of a fun night. Fair fights are for dead people.
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