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Posted: 10/28/2013 1:10:12 PM EST
GM dominated the list!!!

Just kidding

http://money.cnn.com/gallery/autos/2013/10/28/consumer-reports-most-reliable-cars/index.html

  1. Large/Upscale - Lexus ES
  2. Luxury car - Audi A6
  3. Luxury compact SUV - BMW X1
  4. Luxury compact car - Infiniti G37
  5. Sports car - Porsche Boxster
  6. Luxury SUV - Lexus RX
  7. Mid-sized car - Subaru Legacy
  8. Coupe/Convertible - Mercedes E-class
  9. Subcompact - Honda Fit
  10. Full-size pickup - Toyota Tundra (V8, 2WD)
  11. Compact car - Scion xB
  12. Small SUV - Subaru Forester (Non-turbo)
  13. Hybrid/Electric - Toyota Prius
  14. Mid-sized SUV - Toyota 4Runner
  15. Large SUV - Toyota Sequoia
  16. Compact pickup - Honda Ridgeline
  17. Minivan - Toyota Sienna (FWD)
  18. Wagon - Mazda5
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:11:29 PM EST
Forester, FTW
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:12:51 PM EST
Not a single American car manufacturer on your list......
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:13:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By HoodyHoo21:
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Because America sucks at making cars.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:14:23 PM EST
porsche boxter yea...........
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Because America sucks at making cars.
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Originally Posted By HoodyHoo21:
Not a single American car manufacturer on your list......


Because America sucks at making cars.


Totally agree. I drive a '13 VW Passat TDi FWIW......
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Totally agree. I drive a VW Passat TDi FWIW......
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Originally Posted By WVHick:
Originally Posted By HoodyHoo21:
Not a single American car manufacturer on your list......


Because America sucks at making cars.


Totally agree. I drive a VW Passat TDi FWIW......


'99 Audi A4 2.8L here. Love that little damn thing. Does better than any truck I've ever had in the snow, considering it can clear the depth.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:17:30 PM EST
4Runners FTW
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:20:31 PM EST
Too bad the ridgeline is so fugly.

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Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:24:07 PM EST
I bought a new Honda Fit this summer for a beater..
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:25:35 PM EST
The only Datsun love was the Infiniti G37.

*sigh* oh well....


Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:28:38 PM EST
BMW X1 has been out only a year right?

Of course it's reliable, all of them are still covered under factory maintenance plans
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:29:02 PM EST
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+1 I love my 2014 Forester
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:30:41 PM EST
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Not surprised

The Scion XB is just a Camry with a boxy shaped body

Funny you don't see even one Hyundai on that list, but thay are commanding damn near a Lexus price tag
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:32:27 PM EST
Where's the ones built by the UAW list start?















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Because America sucks at making cars.
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Originally Posted By HoodyHoo21:
Not a single American car manufacturer on your list......


Because America sucks at making cars.


Tundras are made in Texas.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:36:40 PM EST
As a brand, Porsche is pretty reliable over all. The key to Porsches are scheduled and preventative maintenance; fail to do both and God help you. IMB bearing not withstanding.

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Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:37:43 PM EST
Did you see the Consumer Reports list of 9mm handguns? Sig P226 was the top of the list.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:48:18 PM EST
Why is this survey considered valid? The survey was conducted solely by the magazine's subscribers(hardly a representative sample) of what they claim is 1.1 million vehicles.

Even if they did have that many subscribers, there were over 254 million passenger cars in the US as of 2007.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:49:58 PM EST
Tundra
Texas
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 1:50:33 PM EST
I can't believe there are only 5 Toyotas listed (if you include the Scion).

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Are you joking? I couldn't find any list.

It wouldn't surprise me about the SIG P226 though.
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True....but according to that foreign parts calculator I saw a couple of years back the Sienna had a similar percentage of American made parts as a Chevy 2500HD.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 5:38:46 PM EST
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Originally Posted By chupacabras:


Tundras are made in Texas.
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Originally Posted By WVHick:
Originally Posted By HoodyHoo21:
Not a single American car manufacturer on your list......


Because America sucks at making cars.


Tundras are made in Texas.


Then maybe they suck at designing cars...

All in all, I really only have a problem with their interiors.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 5:41:38 PM EST
Honda FTW as far as beaters go. 246k+ and still going.
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Because America sucks at making cars.
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Originally Posted By HoodyHoo21:
Not a single American car manufacturer on your list......


Because America sucks at making cars.

Obviously you don't drive an American car.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 5:45:32 PM EST
I saw in the news the other day they don't recommend the Camry anymore.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 5:51:32 PM EST
Toyota gets 8/18, but their resale value is pure koolaid drinking according to some here.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 5:53:00 PM EST
4Runner FTW
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Because America sucks at making cars.
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Originally Posted By WVHick:
Originally Posted By HoodyHoo21:
Not a single American car manufacturer on your list......


Because America sucks at making cars.
We are pretty good at making Mercedes, Hondas, Toyotas, and Nissans.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 5:57:28 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BigTuna83:

Obviously you don't drive an American car.
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Originally Posted By WVHick:
Originally Posted By HoodyHoo21:
Not a single American car manufacturer on your list......


Because America sucks at making cars.

Obviously you don't drive an American car.


Why would anyone want to drive a Government Motors Obama-subsidized car?
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Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:


Some of the vehicles on that list are, in fact, made in America.
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Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:
Originally Posted By HoodyHoo21:
Not a single American car manufacturer on your list......


Some of the vehicles on that list are, in fact, made in America.


http://www.toyota.com/about/our_business/operations_map_usa/

http://corporate.honda.com/america/facilities.aspx

Link Posted: 10/28/2013 6:12:32 PM EST
Meh, it's just a list.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 6:13:57 PM EST
An Audi at #2?
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 6:14:55 PM EST
Anytime you put an Audi at the top of a reliability list, I know your list is full of shit.
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Originally Posted By Shootist_Jeff:
Why is this survey considered valid? The survey was conducted solely by the magazine's subscribers(hardly a representative sample) of what they claim is 1.1 million vehicles.

Even if they did have that many subscribers, there were over 254 million passenger cars in the US as of 2007.
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There are issues with the survey methodology, but sample size isn't one of 'em.
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Too bad the ridgeline is so fugly.

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Originally Posted By ScaryBlackGuns:
Anytime you put an Audi at the top of a reliability list, I know your list is full of shit.
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Glad I'm not the only one.
Link Posted: 10/28/2013 6:17:54 PM EST
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Originally Posted By URSATDX:
Tundra
Texas
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by mexicans mfker
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4Runner FTW
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I clicked through the cnn page. Odd that they put this below some of these, including 4runner:

"Recommended: No"


... but they don't provide any elaboration.

Link Posted: 10/28/2013 6:18:23 PM EST
He DID say "American Manufacturer". Not one of those cars are built/designed by an American manufacturer.

Built in America, yes.
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Glad I'm not the only one.
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Originally Posted By ScaryBlackGuns:
Anytime you put an Audi at the top of a reliability list, I know your list is full of shit.

Glad I'm not the only one.


I am a big fan of Audi. I just happen to live 150 miles away from the closest VAG service department, so I know I should never own one.
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Originally Posted By dog-meat:
Too bad the ridgeline is so fugly.

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http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii81/dphill15/Ridgeline/0046_zps4b15dbd6.jpg




The box on those is cool though, as much space as a full size + the hidden trunk under the bed.
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There are issues with the survey methodology, but sample size isn't one of 'em.
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Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
Originally Posted By Shootist_Jeff:
Why is this survey considered valid? The survey was conducted solely by the magazine's subscribers(hardly a representative sample) of what they claim is 1.1 million vehicles.

Even if they did have that many subscribers, there were over 254 million passenger cars in the US as of 2007.



There are issues with the survey methodology, but sample size isn't one of 'em.


What are the issues? They ask questions and compile the experiences of those that actually own, drive and maintain the cars.
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I am a big fan of Audi. I just happen to live 150 miles away from the closest VAG service department, so I know I should never own one.
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Originally Posted By ScaryBlackGuns:
Originally Posted By Extorris:
Originally Posted By ScaryBlackGuns:
Anytime you put an Audi at the top of a reliability list, I know your list is full of shit.

Glad I'm not the only one.

I am a big fan of Audi. I just happen to live 150 miles away from the closest VAG service department, so I know I should never own one.

I own a 2012 S5 and my friend who works there told me flat out "Do not keep this car past 50,000 miles".
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I clicked through the cnn page. Odd that they put this below some of these, including 4runner:

"Recommended: No"


... but they don't provide any elaboration.

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Originally Posted By sledhead907:
4Runner FTW



I clicked through the cnn page. Odd that they put this below some of these, including 4runner:

"Recommended: No"


... but they don't provide any elaboration.



I have the latest addition of CR ratings.

4 runner comments.........Bad ride, clumsy handling, leans in corners,bobs and bounces,high step in , low ceiling, unimpressive fit and finish...... listed as negatives.

Excellent reliability is listed.

The Taco is not recommended for similar reasons.
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What are the issues? They ask questions and compile the experiences of those that actually own, drive and maintain the cars.
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Originally Posted By Dipper:
Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
Originally Posted By Shootist_Jeff:
Why is this survey considered valid? The survey was conducted solely by the magazine's subscribers(hardly a representative sample) of what they claim is 1.1 million vehicles.

Even if they did have that many subscribers, there were over 254 million passenger cars in the US as of 2007.



There are issues with the survey methodology, but sample size isn't one of 'em.


What are the issues? They ask questions and compile the experiences of those that actually own, drive and maintain the cars.


For how long? What different types of cars?
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I own a 2012 S5 and my friend who works there told me flat out "Do not keep this car past 50,000 miles".
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Originally Posted By ScaryBlackGuns:
Originally Posted By Extorris:
Originally Posted By ScaryBlackGuns:
Anytime you put an Audi at the top of a reliability list, I know your list is full of shit.

Glad I'm not the only one.

I am a big fan of Audi. I just happen to live 150 miles away from the closest VAG service department, so I know I should never own one.

I own a 2012 S5 and my friend who works there told me flat out "Do not keep this car past 50,000 miles".


There are several manufactures that build/sell some dogs but still have a model or two that is highly rated.

Volkswagon gets mostly poor to average ratings but the standard Golf is recommended and highly rated.
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I have the latest addition of CR ratings.

4 runner comments.........Bad ride, clumsy handling, leans in corners,bobs and bounces,high step in , low ceiling, unimpressive fit and finish...... listed as negatives.

Excellent reliability is listed.

The Taco is not recommended for similar reasons.
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Originally Posted By dog-meat:
Originally Posted By sledhead907:
4Runner FTW



I clicked through the cnn page. Odd that they put this below some of these, including 4runner:

"Recommended: No"


... but they don't provide any elaboration.



I have the latest addition of CR ratings.

4 runner comments.........Bad ride, clumsy handling, leans in corners,bobs and bounces,high step in , low ceiling, unimpressive fit and finish...... listed as negatives.

Excellent reliability is listed.

The Taco is not recommended for similar reasons.



do the suggest any mid-size pickups? frontier?

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