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Posted: 3/14/2005 8:15:20 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/14/2005 8:17:41 AM EST by lippo]
Anyone hear about her speech in Mexico?

www.aztlan.net/condi_vs_minutemen.htm



Condoleezza : "My country will not tolerate illegal actions by the Minutemen vigilantes"
by
Miroslava Flores
La Voz de Aztlan

Tenochtitlan, Mexico D.F. - March 11, 2005 - (ACN) The Secretary of State of the USA Condoleezza Rice said, "My country will not tolerate illegal actions by the Minutemen vigilantes" yesterday at a press conference here in Mexico City. The press conference took place at the Secretaria de Relaciones Exteriores (SRE) after her meeting with Mexico's Foreign Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez. Rice assured that her government "will not pardon any extra-legal actions by border vigilantes nor do we support the activities of these groups". She added, "Even though we can not interfere with these activities, you can rest assured that if they violate the law, they will be held accountable".

Condoleezza Rice's strong statements against the Minutemen vigilantes may be a reflection of the lynchings her own people suffered at the hands of white vigilantes in the "Old South". Black slaves in southern plantations were routinely "tarred and feathered", lynched, hung on poplar trees and then burned by white racists. These atrocities continued after the "Emancipation Proclamation" and cases resurface from time to time even today. Condoleezza Rice in fact can trace descendants in her family tree that were victims of white vigilantes. The lynching of Condoleezza Rice's ancestors were immortalized by a haunting song sung by Billie Holiday titled "Strange Fruit". La Voz de Aztlan is making the photograph that inspired Lewis Allen to write the song and the song itself sung by Holiday at http://www.aztlan.net/strange_fruit.htm

Historically, Mexicans and especially Mexican migrant workers have been the victims of lynchings by white racists as well. As the USA agricultural and other sectors have become increasingly dependent on Mexican labor, Mexican immigration has increased to meet the demand.(YEAH, ILLEGAL IMIGRATION!) These workers usually have to settle in communities that do not welcome them. Mexicans are at times segregated, victimized, and resented by the surrounding white population. This maltreatment may eventually escalate into racial oppression comparable to that of the Blacks in the Jim Crow south.

The racial hierarchy in certain parts of the US leaves Mexicans with little support from the law. Officials and policy makers serving the courts and police departments in certain isolated regions are usually the same white supremacists who want Mexicans removed. A perfect example of this is what is occurring in Ceres, California today. The white police chief and police department are presently cracking down on "El Campo" part of the town. "El Campo" is were Mexican agricultural workers reside. Historically it has been the infamous Texas Rangers who have been the most brutal. In the name of justice they executed thousands of Mexican migrant workers without any repercussions. The Texas Rangers would routinely arrest Mexicans on false charges and promptly lynch and leave the bodies hanging for days in front of the courthouse. In the period from 1848 to 1870 official records indicate that 473 out of every 100,000 Mexican migrant workers died as victims of lynching.

The situation today, thank God, has changed quite a lot from the time when Jim Crow laws ruled the south and the Texas Rangers roamed the Texas badlands looking for victims. The Minutemen vigilantes will not get away with what their predecessors did in the old times. There are just too many Mexicans now in all levels of US society. In fact, the present US Attorney General is a son of Mexican immigrants and he would throw the book on the face of any anti-Mexican vigilante that breaks the law. On top of this, the vigilantes would face prosecution by the Mexican government in US courts and in international tribunals. In addition, there will be a large numbers of monitors from US based human rights groups who will be documenting abuses in order to sue for monetary damages on behalf of any Mexican victims as is presently being done to the vigilante Roger Barnett in the Federal Court in Tucson. My advise to any naive vigilante that plans to travel to Tombstone, Arizona on April Fools Day is "STAY HOME!!!".




Well, to me it looks like they just want a civil war!


Minutemen Vigilantism Raises Civil War Fears

USA Hispanics along the border may become victims
by
Ernesto Cienfuegos
La Voz de Aztlan

Los Angeles, Alta California, March 8, 2005 - (ACN) The US side of the border in Arizona is not just inhabited by Anglos (whites). In fact the area along the Mexico/Arizona border, where the Minutemen vigilantes intend to operate against Mexican immigrants in the month of April, has families of Mexican descent that go back in history prior to when the territory was invaded by hordes of white savages from the east coast. Today, these same families are in fear that they will be victimized by new hordes of America's riff-raff that will congregate in Tombstone, Arizona on April Fools Day.

The first explorer to enter Arizona was Cabeza de Vaca in 1536 and he was followed by Franciscan Friar Marcos de Niza who reached the state in 1539. In fact it was Father Marcos de Niza who gave the state its name. Arizona is derived from the Spanish phrase "zona arida" which translates into "arid zone". Friar Marcos de Niza was followed into Arizona by explorer Francisco Vasquez de Coronado. Coronado led an expedition from Mexico in 1540 in search of the seven legendary cities of gold, reaching as far as the Grand Canyon. Later Father Eusebio Kino, a Jesuit, founded the missions of Guevavi in 1692 and Tumacacori in 1696 near Nogales. Father San Xavier del Bac founded a mission in 1700 near Tucson. The Arizona region became Mexican territory following the Mexican war of independence from Spain in 1821. In the early 1800's, U.S. mountain men and "white bandidos" like Kit Carson and Billy the Kid and their ilk invaded the area. Mexico lost Arizona during the Mexican-American War and the subsequent "Great Land Theft" in 1848.

Presently there is an ominous an malevolent dark storm gathering over Arizona that has the potential of spreading throughout the southwest. On April 1st a group of anti-Mexican racists and white supremacists from throughout the USA plan to meet in Tombstone, Arizona to stop what they call a "Mexican invasion" and "reconquista movement". Many of the white bigots which have been interviewed by the media have said that they will be carrying weapons. After their initial rally in Tombstone, they plan to deploy, for the entire month of April, along the US/Mexico border in the region to "hunt for Mexican immigrants". This is definitely a formula for disaster that could lead to an all out ethnic war between Mexicans and Anglos. It could mean the start of a new Mexican-American War between the United States and Mexico. All it would take is a crazy gringo terrorist to blow up and kill an American family of Mexican descent and admit that he did it on behalf of the Minutemen vigilantes. After this all hell will break loose and will "unleash the rabid dogs of racial hatred".

Should the general American populace allow a few "nut cases" to threaten their peace and well being in their own homeland?
Must we allow the likes of Glenn Spencer, Chris Simcox and Jim Gilchrist to threaten the lives of our families? Make no mistake about it, what these racist vigilantes intend to do, judging from their past actions, has great potential to harm your loved ones including your children. We must not allow for these paranoid crazies to turn the friendly Mexican/Anglo relationship, we presently enjoy in the southwest, into the type of relationship that Palestinians and Zionists in the Holy Land struggle with.


Mexicans and Mexican-Americans are generally a peace loving people. Our history, however, shows that we have great warrior legacies both on the Aztec and the Spanish sides. The US can not presently afford additional world enemies. The nation of Mexico presently provides a great "security buffer" for the USA southern flank. What would happen if the Minuteman vigilantes instigate the alienation of Mexico and the country allows the infiltration of the Mara Salvatruchas, Al-Queda and every South and Central American subversive group eager to attack the USA?

If the Minutemen vigilantes commit atrocities against Mexicans, or God forbid against Mexican-Americans, there will be retaliations against Anglos in major cities like Los Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco, San Antonio, El Paso and the like. Already anti-Mexican hate crimes like the the decapitations of three Mexican children in Baltimore, Maryland, the bludgeoning to death of a Mexican mother and daughter in Fremont, California and the burning to death of Mexican families in an arson fire in Columbus, Ohio has placed the Mexican/Anglo relationship on the brink. The Mexican and Mexican-American communities can not and will not put up with any more injustices.

There are signs that our youths are about ready to act out politically. One sign took place recently in Ceres, California when a decorated US Marine of Mexican descent decide to bring Fallujah back to his hometown. US Marine Andres Raya took on six police agencies with an assault rifle killing one police officer and critically injuring another. There is ample evidence that the act was politically motivated. Andres Raya told his friends that he did not believe in the Iraq War and the police released a picture showing Raya and his friends burning a US flag in the high school gym.

Today, we are seeing the increasing politicization of groups like the 18th Street gang and the Mara Salvatruchas. These two groups are increasingly acting more like insurgents than common street gangs. We hear talk that Mexican families are readying themselves for any attack from white vigilantes or rogue white racist cops. Also, there are rumors that the 18th Street gang and the Mara Salvatruchas are forming an alliance to battle their real common enemy. Most interesting of all, there are efforts among US Marines of Mexican descent to form a super secret battalion to respond to any attack of the Mexican-American community. Word is there is already such a battalion at Camp Pendleton where US Marine Andres Raya was assigned.

It would serve the interests of the general American population if US citizens put an immediate stop to the plans of groups like those of the paranoid Minutemen vigilantes. These people do not represent the large majority of sane and healthy Americans. The Minutemen are racists, bigots and xenophobes and are operating out of hate for Mexicans. They are endangering the peace and their actions will surely lead to consequences we will all eventually regret.(Did this guy just threaten us?)




TIME TO CLOSE THE BORDERS!




Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:16:56 AM EST
Hunting sight?

"Die, Gas Pumper!"

"Stay away from the cans, he hates the cans!"

G23c
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:18:21 AM EST
People might as well not even show up for the Arizona Event. Nothing but bad things will come of it.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:18:56 AM EST
"My country will not tolerate illegal actions by the Minutemen vigilantes" yesterday at a press conference here in Mexico City.


But we will tolerate millions of aliens every year crossing the border ILLEGALLY
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:21:58 AM EST

Originally Posted By glock23carry:
Hunting sight?

"Die, Gas Pumper!"

"Stay away from the cans, he hates the cans!"

G23c




Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:23:52 AM EST

Originally Posted By sq40:
People might as well not even show up for the Arizona Event. Nothing but bad things will come of it.



I wonder how many of the Minutemen said that at "Lexington"? Most Americans today are scared little children compared to our Founding Fathers. At least they had the guts to lay it on the line!

Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:24:49 AM EST
I bet the Dims are going to pump up all kinds of immigration laws to get some conservative votes.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:25:08 AM EST

Originally Posted By lippo:

Originally Posted By glock23carry:
Hunting sight?

"Die, Gas Pumper!"

"Stay away from the cans, he hates the cans!"

G23c








you don't have to be a Jerk about it.


-HS
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:25:19 AM EST
Well there goes my vote for Condi in 08.

Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:25:57 AM EST

Originally Posted By lippo:

Originally Posted By sq40:
People might as well not even show up for the Arizona Event. Nothing but bad things will come of it.



I wonder how many of the Minutemen said that at "Lexington"? Most Americans today are scared little children compared to our Founding Fathers. At least they had the guts to lay it on the line!




I Dont think that is quite an accurate analogy... But your point is well taken.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:25:59 AM EST
Damn good thing we voted for good old GWB.
His administration cares more about the illegals than they do our own people and our national security.
All done to kiss the aztlan ass for votes.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:26:06 AM EST
Sooo, just don't commit illegal acts.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:27:22 AM EST
That phrase about not tolerating vigilante minutemen is very well done. It appeases their political sensibilities and at the same time, she is only talking about not tolerating those in the minuteman group that break the law while performing their mission.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:27:58 AM EST

Originally Posted By bulldog1967:
Well there goes my vote for Condi in 08.


This was done with the full knowledge and probably at the behest of GWB Jr.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:28:35 AM EST

Originally Posted By warlord:

Originally Posted By bulldog1967:
Well there goes my vote for Condi in 08.


This was done with the full knowledge and probably at the behest of GWB Jr.



And that makes it okay HOW?
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:28:47 AM EST
Has anyone confirmed that is what Dr. Rice said? I don't have any faith in what a mexican org like ass-tlan says. BTW if Dr. Rice said that she can kiss my ass.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:29:05 AM EST
Republicans
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:30:04 AM EST

Father Eusebio Kino, a Jesuit, founded the missions of Guevavi in 1692 and Tumacacori in 1696 near Nogales. Father San Xavier del Bac founded a mission in 1700 near Tucson.


I'm guessing the missions were founded to minister to the indians the savage hispanics stole the land from. Funny how history has a different starting point for different groups of savages.

Eddie
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:30:07 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/14/2005 8:31:36 AM EST by Admiral_Crunch]
Well, I think what she is basically saying is that they are not above the law. I would hope not. If they just started shooting or assaulting illegals, that would be slightly against the law, and they would deserve to go to jail. I don't have a problem with that.



"Even though we can not interfere with these activities, you can rest assured that if they violate the law, they will be held accountable".



Does she WANT to interfere with their legal activites? If she does, then I DO have a problem with that.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:30:49 AM EST
Make no mistake, she's part of the ruling eleite. I doubt she gives a fuck or she'd be looking to solve the problem of illegal immigration and not project blame elsewhere. If the dumbasses in the whitehouse will do their job, the "MM" will go home.

Why in the hell is racism and white supremeiscist even relevant here?


all politicians suck.



-HS
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:31:41 AM EST

Originally Posted By Partisan:
Has anyone confirmed that is what Dr. Rice said? I don't have any faith in what a mexican org like ass-tlan says.

No kidding, talk about jumping the gun
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:33:49 AM EST

Originally Posted By SPECTRE:
Damn good thing we voted for good old GWB.



At least we still have our guns. Like the alternative was better?
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:34:23 AM EST

Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:
Well, I think what she is basically saying is that they are not above the law. I would hope not. If they just started shooting or assaulting illegals, that would be slightly against the law, and they would deserve to go to jail. I don't have a problem with that.



"Even though we can not interfere with these activities, you can rest assured that if they violate the law, they will be held accountable".



Does she WANT to interfere with their legal activites? If she does, then I DO have a problem with that.





The press conference took place at the Secretaria de Relaciones Exteriores (SRE) after her meeting with Mexico's Foreign Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez. Rice assured that her government "will not pardon any extra-legal actions by border vigilantes nor do we support the activities of these groups".



Looks like another coming Waco event to me!
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:34:42 AM EST
She didn't really say anything out of the ordinary. She said if anyone breaks the law they will be held accountable. She also mentions that they have every legal right to organize as they have proposed.


What's to get worked up about?

The added bullshit the writer put in about lynchings and slavery didn't come from Ms. Rice.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:35:36 AM EST
That is certainly ironic if true. The government will not abide citizens seeking to enforce the law against aliens breaking the law.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:35:38 AM EST

Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:
Well, I think what she is basically saying is that they are not above the law. I would hope not. If they just started shooting or assaulting illegals, that would be against the law, and they would deserve to go to jail. I don't have a problem with that.
.

Exactly! That is, even if she said it and it's not made up by this nutjob group.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:37:28 AM EST

Originally Posted By lippo:

Originally Posted By sq40:
People might as well not even show up for the Arizona Event. Nothing but bad things will come of it.



I wonder how many of the Minutemen said that at "Lexington"? Most Americans today are scared little children compared to our Founding Fathers. At least they had the guts to lay it on the line!




WORD!
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:39:14 AM EST

Originally Posted By TexasSIG:
She didn't really say anything out of the ordinary. She said if anyone breaks the law they will be held accountable. She also mentions that they have every legal right to organize as they have proposed.


What's to get worked up about?

The added bullshit the writer put in about lynchings and slavery didn't come from Ms. Rice.



Exactly.

She is just saying that she doesn't support "illegal activities".

So what's the big deal.

Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:39:52 AM EST
Correct me if I'm wrong here ... but the US is her country, not Mexico (I mean she IS our Secretary of State). How about she change her tune and start making Mexico aware that HER country will not tollerate vigilante action by racist Mexicans against Texas/Arizona citizens.

I hate double standards
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:40:11 AM EST
Keep poking me with that stick motherfucker....
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:41:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By osprey21:
Keep poking me with that stick motherfucker....



Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:41:28 AM EST

Originally Posted By Demordrah:
Correct me if I'm wrong here ... but the US is her country, not Mexico (I mean she IS our Secretary of State). How about she change her tune and start making Mexico aware that HER country will not tollerate vigilante action by racist Mexicans against Texas/Arizona citizens.

I hate double standards



Well, I haven't seen any organized Mexican groups planning to patrol the borders with weapons either.

You have any examples of vigilante actions by racist Mexicans against Texas/Arizona citizens?
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:44:08 AM EST

Originally Posted By TexasSIG:

Originally Posted By Demordrah:
Correct me if I'm wrong here ... but the US is her country, not Mexico (I mean she IS our Secretary of State). How about she change her tune and start making Mexico aware that HER country will not tollerate vigilante action by racist Mexicans against Texas/Arizona citizens.

I hate double standards



Well, I haven't seen any organized Mexican groups planning to patrol the borders with weapons either.

You have any examples of vigilante actions by racist Mexicans against Texas/Arizona citizens?




Mexican drug gangs? Missing Americans? Border Patrol Agent dead? Is that enough?
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:44:28 AM EST

Originally Posted By Demordrah:

Originally Posted By osprey21:
Keep poking me with that stick motherfucker....





Cute


Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:47:38 AM EST

Originally Posted By lt557:

Originally Posted By lippo:

Originally Posted By sq40:
People might as well not even show up for the Arizona Event. Nothing but bad things will come of it.



I wonder how many of the Minutemen said that at "Lexington"? Most Americans today are scared little children compared to our Founding Fathers. At least they had the guts to lay it on the line!




WORD!



Interesting she would try to use the word "Minutemen" in a negative light. Minutemen are true heroes, and I would be honored to be compared to them.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:47:47 AM EST
This whole thing is driving my blood pressure up.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:48:54 AM EST

Originally Posted By TexasSIG:
Well, I haven't seen any organized Mexican groups planning to patrol the borders with weapons either.

You have any examples of vigilante actions by racist Mexicans against Texas/Arizona citizens?





Where have YOU been?
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:51:00 AM EST

Originally Posted By WaWaTuSi:

Originally Posted By TexasSIG:
Well, I haven't seen any organized Mexican groups planning to patrol the borders with weapons either.

You have any examples of vigilante actions by racist Mexicans against Texas/Arizona citizens?





Where have YOU been?



Vigilantes. What you refer to are just plain ass criminals. Where are the organized Mexican vigilante groups?
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:52:02 AM EST
Technical question....
If a Mexican gets shot before he crosses into AZ is it a crime?
Couldn't someone use the excuse of preventing an invasion?
Can AZ law be applied if illegal is shot at before making it into AZ?
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:54:46 AM EST

Originally Posted By SPECTRE:
Damn good thing we voted for good old GWB.
His administration cares more about the illegals than they do our own people and our national security.
All done to kiss the aztlan ass for votes.



Good point, because Kerry would have got aggressive on the Mexicans' asses.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:55:20 AM EST
Both articals were writen by Mexicans for Mexicans and to threaten us. Mexicans,,,,just goes to prove that the Indians realy did fuck bufflos


[quote.(Did this guy just threaten us?)
[/quote
]

Yes they did.

Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:55:31 AM EST

This thread just shows that most
people cannot understand the
concept of a carefully worded
diplomatic statements. As with
the President's AWB comments,
every word means something and
needs to be parse accordingly.

That said, the one word that I am
concerned with is "vigilante." I'll
await confirmation of this statement
before I pass judgement.

Link Posted: 3/14/2005 8:56:52 AM EST

Originally Posted By Leisure_Shoot:

Originally Posted By SPECTRE:
Damn good thing we voted for good old GWB.
His administration cares more about the illegals than they do our own people and our national security.
All done to kiss the aztlan ass for votes.



Good point, because Kerry would have got aggressive on the Mexicans' asses.



Ahhh yes, the lesser of two evils.
Do you think GWB would have been elected if his border policies had been known then ?
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 9:00:19 AM EST

Originally Posted By SPECTRE:
Damn good thing we voted for good old GWB.
His administration cares more about the illegals than they do our own people and our national security.
All done to kiss the aztlan ass for votes.



They are hard woriking people in search of a better life...doing the jobs Americans wont do. Family values don't stop at the Rio Grande. < GWB said all of it so it must be true!
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 9:01:10 AM EST

Originally Posted By SPECTRE:

Originally Posted By Leisure_Shoot:

Originally Posted By SPECTRE:
Damn good thing we voted for good old GWB.
His administration cares more about the illegals than they do our own people and our national security.
All done to kiss the aztlan ass for votes.



Good point, because Kerry would have got aggressive on the Mexicans' asses.



Ahhh yes, the lesser of two evils.
Do you think GWB would have been elected if his border policies had been known then ?



Yes, duh.

Everyone knew he was in bed with V. Fox, unless you were living under a rock!

He was simply the lesser of two evils.

Link Posted: 3/14/2005 9:01:47 AM EST

Originally Posted By TexasSIG:

Originally Posted By Demordrah:
Correct me if I'm wrong here ... but the US is her country, not Mexico (I mean she IS our Secretary of State). How about she change her tune and start making Mexico aware that HER country will not tollerate vigilante action by racist Mexicans against Texas/Arizona citizens.

I hate double standards



Well, I haven't seen any organized Mexican groups planning to patrol the borders with weapons either.

You have any examples of vigilante actions by racist Mexicans against Texas/Arizona citizens?



Do You ever watch your local news? Here where I live in the midwest there is always news of violence by mexicans on whites, and crap like these articles probably makes them feel justified in doing so.
I find it offensive that Condi would be so concerned about the illegal actions of Americans but not give a rats ass about what the La Reconquista's sent by MEXICO are doing as they break our laws by entering our country illegally!
Sir their Organized Groups are everywhere! In our federal, state, local governments, and even in our schools. Do a search on the web for MECHA and see a list of all the public school that have chapters and tell me they do not have organized groups. Check out their Constitution that says one of their goals is to rid their territories of the europeans!
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 9:04:56 AM EST
"My country will not tolerate illegal actions by the Minutemen vigilantes"

I don't see anything really wrong with this statement. Although, it would be appropriate to reiterate that protecting your family and property from any threat is perfectly legal.

From reading this story, assuming it's not 99% bullshit, there exist three elements that must be dealt with in order to obtain a short term and long-term solution. We need to first deal with these white supremacist types, as Rice indicated. The media loves to blur the line between gun nuts and white supremacists, and as a result, their actions reflect poorly on us. If they're shooting Mexicans under circumstances that do not allow for the use of deadly force, they're committing first-degree murder, and should burn. It's quite simple. Whether it's a foreigner, illegally crossing our borders, or an eight-year-old kid playing outside, murder is murder, and they have the same right to life as you and I. In addition, not only are they committing murder, they're creating and perpetuating many other problems. I'm confident that this course of action will not be taken by anyone who genuinely desires a solution to this problem, but only by those who want to kill. In such a case, I would strongly recommend that one would kill oneself.

The second element that must be dealt with resides far from our borders. I don't like the border situation either, but little can be accomplished in Arizona. The fault exists in Washington D.C., not Arizona. We fix the fault in Washington, and we fix the border problem. Thus, the third element, the illegals, shall be dealt with appropriately.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 9:05:33 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/14/2005 9:06:19 AM EST by TexasSIG]
One more time for the slow learners. Where are the Mexican vigilante groups you talk about?

Read the following carefully, it's from Websters. Then tell me again about the Mexican vigilante groups.

What you refer to are criminal dipshits, not vigilantes.

Main Entry: vig·i·lan·te
Pronunciation: "vi-j&-'lan-tE
Function: noun
Etymology: Spanish, watchman, guard, from vigilante vigilant, from Latin vigilant-, vigilans
Definition: a member of a volunteer committee organized to suppress and punish crime summarily (as when the processes of law appear inadequate);
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 9:05:40 AM EST

Originally Posted By TexasSIG:
She didn't really say anything out of the ordinary. She said if anyone breaks the law they will be held accountable. She also mentions that they have every legal right to organize as they have proposed.


What's to get worked up about?

The added bullshit the writer put in about lynchings and slavery didn't come from Ms. Rice.



+1



Link Posted: 3/14/2005 9:06:09 AM EST

Originally Posted By Old_Painless:

Originally Posted By TexasSIG:
She didn't really say anything out of the ordinary. She said if anyone breaks the law they will be held accountable. She also mentions that they have every legal right to organize as they have proposed.


What's to get worked up about?

The added bullshit the writer put in about lynchings and slavery didn't come from Ms. Rice.



Exactly.

She is just saying that she doesn't support "illegal activities".




Those are the words she used. But she is saying much more. She is saying she wishes she could do more to stop the bad American men at the border so the honest illegals could have unrestricted access.
Link Posted: 3/14/2005 9:07:17 AM EST

Originally Posted By TexasSIG:
One more time for the slow learners. Where are the Mexican vigilante groups you talk about?

Read the following carefully, it's from Websters. Then tell me again about the Mexican vigilante groups.

What you refer to are criminal dipshits, not vigilantes.

Main Entry: vig·i·lan·te
Pronunciation: "vi-j&-'lan-tE
Function: noun
Etymology: Spanish, watchman, guard, from vigilante vigilant, from Latin vigilant-, vigilans
Definition: a member of a volunteer committee organized to suppress and punish crime summarily (as when the processes of law appear inadequate);



Don't they believe that they are administering "Street justice"?
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