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Posted: 2/11/2016 9:47:41 PM EDT
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You mean you want to build a vault in your addition?
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Posted: 2/11/2016 9:50:21 PM EDT
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Don't really have any pointers on the concrete part except hire a good contractor.
Vaultpro makes great doors IMHO. |
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Posted: 2/11/2016 9:52:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You mean you want to build a vault in your addition? |
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Posted: 2/11/2016 9:53:16 PM EDT
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in on 1
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Posted: 2/11/2016 9:55:09 PM EDT
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I forgot add that if you do a vault room pay close attention to the ventilation and look into fire dampers.
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Posted: 2/11/2016 9:57:47 PM EDT
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Use lots of rebar, including the ceiling.
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Posted: 2/11/2016 10:00:47 PM EDT
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Concrete produces moisture for years. Install an active dehumidifier and ventilate.
My $0.02. |
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Posted: 2/11/2016 10:03:44 PM EDT
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A friend of mine built one in his basement, pretty neat has to run a dehumidifier even here in Idaho. It is around 4 x10 so not very big but holds all his guns, reloading gear. He did all the work himself son the cost was pretty small. I want to do one on my house but I am unsure how I want to gon about doing it. His advice to me was have some one else do the concrete, just do the rebar myself. I would have to have a concrete pumper in order to do it at my house.
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Posted: 2/11/2016 10:06:29 PM EDT
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A member here built a pretty massively neat one (IIRC) around the mid to late 2000's. He had a buttload of pic's. I would think it would still be in the archives but the pic's might not be hosted any longer... |
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Posted: 2/11/2016 10:10:46 PM EDT
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There was a build thread several years ago, do a search on vaults or vault doors.
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Posted: 2/11/2016 10:11:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/11/2016 10:11:49 PM EDT
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There was a thread on here years ago where a guy built one, basically a gun room, off his garage. It was impressive! Probably 10 years back.
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Posted: 2/11/2016 10:17:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Concrete produces moisture for years. Install an active dehumidifier and ventilate. My $0.02. Yes, concrete is quite porous so is able to hold a lot of moisture. Any chance you can build a 'secret' room, by that I mean one without hardened construction but that isn't even apparent that it exists? A friend did that (closet shelf is a hinged hidden door to a 10'x12' room behind) and it's brilliant.....and pretty cheap by comparison. |
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Posted: 2/11/2016 10:18:47 PM EDT
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Ask away - this is a concrete safe room / vault I built in my basement -
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Posted: 2/11/2016 10:26:25 PM EDT
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Gator, why'd you have the door open in ??
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Posted: 2/11/2016 10:29:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Gator, why'd you have the door open in ?? |
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Posted: 2/11/2016 10:29:47 PM EDT
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Direct floor drain to run a dehumidifier.
Emptying the bucket on a regular basis sucks. |
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Posted: 2/11/2016 10:32:05 PM EDT
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We built one in our new home. About 6x6 with 9 ft ceilng, which is actually part of the front porch. It works great, and we put ina vault door from Smith Safe Company in Ohio.
Some pointers. - Get the exact dimensions your door manufacturer recommends. Make sure you concrete guy can pour to that, and keep it square and plumb. I had to shave some concrete to get my door to fit. That was messy. - Plan your gun racks and storage in advance to make sure it will all fit. - Be sure to have a plan for humidity control and air circulation. You dont want it air tight unless it is a true bug out bunker. |
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Posted: 2/11/2016 10:32:32 PM EDT
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Ask away - this is a concrete safe room / vault I built in my basement - http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r24/Gatorcountry/start-36_zps71eb32d4.jpg http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r24/Gatorcountry/start-35_zps892aa302.jpg http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r24/Gatorcountry/20130705_185707_zps12ba09c9.jpg http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r24/Gatorcountry/door5_zpscb63b530.jpg http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r24/Gatorcountry/start-32_zps9d3a995d.jpg That is awesome but... I would be freaked out about accidentally getting locked in. |
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Posted: 2/11/2016 10:42:16 PM EDT
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It's my understanding that you want the door to open in so that if debris falls outside it doesn't jam the door shut. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Gator, why'd you have the door open in ?? well sure, now that you say it, it makes perfect sense. I was thinking easier to push in for security / safe room situation. 
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Posted: 2/11/2016 10:47:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Direct floor drain to run a dehumidifier. Emptying the bucket on a regular basis sucks.  |
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Posted: 2/11/2016 10:47:48 PM EDT
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I built one n my basement out of a "storm cellar." Reinforced concrete over a masonry porch and a safe door. A dehumidifier is a must..
Here's the door I got, very happy with it. Not sure the exact model I got, it's been about 5 years but mine is fire rated and I have double locks and an interior "lock out" function. No, the girl doesn't come with it..... http://www.sturdysafe.com/collections/2419-colletions/products/model-2822 |
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Posted: 2/11/2016 10:50:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's my understanding that you want the door to open in so that if debris falls outside it doesn't jam the door shut. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Gator, why'd you have the door open in ?? Right - the house may fall down around it but the door won't be blocked. Also qualifies as a FEMA certified safe room which helps resale value. |
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Posted: 2/11/2016 10:53:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: well sure, now that you say it, it makes perfect sense. I was thinking easier to push in for security / safe room situation. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Gator, why'd you have the door open in ?? well sure, now that you say it, it makes perfect sense. I was thinking easier to push in for security / safe room situation. The door has both a panic button and a quick (well not so quick) release on the inside. |
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Posted: 2/11/2016 11:07:01 PM EDT
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I forgot add that if you do a vault room pay close attention to the ventilation and look into fire dampers. Coolest gun room pictures I have ever seen. |
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Posted: 2/11/2016 11:37:06 PM EDT
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It's my understanding that you want the door to open in so that if debris falls outside it doesn't jam the door shut. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Gator, why'd you have the door open in ?? Bingo. |
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Posted: 2/11/2016 11:39:25 PM EDT
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Ask away - this is a concrete safe room / vault I built in my basement - http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r24/Gatorcountry/start-36_zps71eb32d4.jpg http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r24/Gatorcountry/start-35_zps892aa302.jpg http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r24/Gatorcountry/20130705_185707_zps12ba09c9.jpg http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r24/Gatorcountry/door5_zpscb63b530.jpg http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r24/Gatorcountry/start-32_zps9d3a995d.jpg OP do this  Same sort of plan we have.
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Posted: 2/11/2016 11:40:55 PM EDT
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Coolest gun room pictures I have ever seen. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I forgot add that if you do a vault room pay close attention to the ventilation and look into fire dampers. Coolest gun room pictures I have ever seen. My gun room isn't solid concrete. The area below it is. The room I've posted pictures of in the past is a hybrid of construction materials that were fireproof, bulletproof, and tamper proof. I picked these materials because I could build with them myself and not worry about people seeing what I as building. My vault which is under my guy room is where I store ammo fort and other expensive items I own, it can also serve as a storm shelter and safe room. |
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Posted: 2/11/2016 11:43:37 PM EDT
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Don't really have any pointers on the concrete part except hire a good contractor. Vaultpro makes great doors IMHO. I believe it is Vault-tec good sir 
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Posted: 2/11/2016 11:45:04 PM EDT
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Don't really have any pointers on the concrete part except hire a good contractor. Vaultpro makes great doors IMHO. I believe it is Vault-tec good sir It's Vaultpro. I own one. link |
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Posted: 2/11/2016 11:46:36 PM EDT
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My buddy built one on end of his garage, dehumidifier is a must. |
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Posted: 2/11/2016 11:53:18 PM EDT
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Don't really have any pointers on the concrete part except hire a good contractor. Vaultpro makes great doors IMHO. I believe it is Vault-tec good sir It's Vaultpro. I own one. link You're wrong! Vault-Tec is the leader in high quality vault construction. Just keep an eye on them; they can be a bit treacherous and they tend to misrepresent themselves.
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Posted: 2/11/2016 11:53:58 PM EDT
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FEMA was paying for the costs of building a storm shelter when people rebuilt houses in the Joplin area. At least one of them in Duquesne ended up looking pretty much like a gun vault. I ain't saying it's right, I'm just saying.
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Posted: 2/11/2016 11:54:43 PM EDT
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You're wrong! Vault-Tec is the leader in high quality construction. Just keep an eye on them; they can be a bit treacherous and they tend to misrepresent themselves. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Don't really have any pointers on the concrete part except hire a good contractor. Vaultpro makes great doors IMHO. I believe it is Vault-tec good sir It's Vaultpro. I own one. link You're wrong! Vault-Tec is the leader in high quality construction. Just keep an eye on them; they can be a bit treacherous and they tend to misrepresent themselves. I did my homework before buying and I have had it for a number of years. I said they were good in my opinion. Everyone has an opinion. |
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Posted: 2/11/2016 11:57:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ask away - this is a concrete safe room / vault I built in my basement - http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r24/Gatorcountry/start-36_zps71eb32d4.jpg http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r24/Gatorcountry/start-35_zps892aa302.jpg http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r24/Gatorcountry/20130705_185707_zps12ba09c9.jpg http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r24/Gatorcountry/door5_zpscb63b530.jpg http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r24/Gatorcountry/start-32_zps9d3a995d.jpg Why the safe inside the vault? I'd have my shiny stuff hanging on the walls inside there. |
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Posted: 2/11/2016 11:59:27 PM EDT
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I did my homework before buying and I have had it for a number of years. I said they were good in my opinion. Everyone has an opinion. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Don't really have any pointers on the concrete part except hire a good contractor. Vaultpro makes great doors IMHO. I believe it is Vault-tec good sir It's Vaultpro. I own one. link You're wrong! Vault-Tec is the leader in high quality construction. Just keep an eye on them; they can be a bit treacherous and they tend to misrepresent themselves. I did my homework before buying and I have had it for a number of years. I said they were good in my opinion. Everyone has an opinion. If I'm reading this right, he is referring to the Fallout game series (where Vault-Tec was a rather nefarious builder of underground bunkers). Thus the
Very cool room, I hope to build one similar soon. I like the idea of the dehumidifier draining into the sump, and hidden in the cabinet. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 12:00:52 AM EDT
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Built a 12' x 14' room, Amsec outswing door..... Advice, go with an outswing, you loose a lot of space with an inswing door.
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Posted: 2/12/2016 12:07:12 AM EDT
[#38]
Id build my own door. That project would be fun as hell.
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Posted: 2/12/2016 12:08:11 AM EDT
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An old shooting buddy added a concrete block gun room into his existing basement.
Each void in the block was filled with concrete and rebar. Each course used wall ties to secure them to the next course The ceiling was done with a concrete and rebar with a gap between the ceiling joists and top of the vault room. He used a steel safe door that was tied into the blocks via rebar. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 12:08:42 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/12/2016 12:14:57 AM EDT
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Ft Knox Safes makes a vault door. Purdy.
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Posted: 2/12/2016 12:21:01 AM EDT
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This is where I ordered my door from - http://www.sturdysafe.com/products/vault-door http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r24/Gatorcountry/20130328_123708_zps21269773.jpg http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r24/Gatorcountry/door3_zpsca9c9117.jpg http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r24/Gatorcountry/door11_zps756459e7.jpg Is this is just sitting in the entry way couldnt you just run a recip saw all around it and push the door/frame in? Or is it recessed over the block? How does this work? |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 12:22:00 AM EDT
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My gun room isn't solid concrete. The area below it is. The room I've posted pictures of in the past is a hybrid of construction materials that were fireproof, bulletproof, and tamper proof. I picked these materials because I could build with them myself and not worry about people seeing what I as building. My vault which is under my guy room is where I store ammo fort and other expensive items I own, it can also serve as a storm shelter and safe room. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I forgot add that if you do a vault room pay close attention to the ventilation and look into fire dampers. Coolest gun room pictures I have ever seen. My gun room isn't solid concrete. The area below it is. The room I've posted pictures of in the past is a hybrid of construction materials that were fireproof, bulletproof, and tamper proof. I picked these materials because I could build with them myself and not worry about people seeing what I as building. My vault which is under my guy room is where I store ammo fort and other expensive items I own, it can also serve as a storm shelter and safe room. Your gun room is baller. WAIT...YOU HAVE MORE STUFF DOWNSTAIRS??????? |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 12:23:47 AM EDT
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I look forward to these types of threads
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Posted: 2/12/2016 12:27:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Built a 12' x 14' room, Amsec outswing door..... Advice, go with an outswing, you loose a lot of space with an inswing door. Hee we go. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 12:29:44 AM EDT
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Your gun room is baller. WAIT...YOU HAVE MORE STUFF DOWNSTAIRS??????? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I forgot add that if you do a vault room pay close attention to the ventilation and look into fire dampers. Coolest gun room pictures I have ever seen. My gun room isn't solid concrete. The area below it is. The room I've posted pictures of in the past is a hybrid of construction materials that were fireproof, bulletproof, and tamper proof. I picked these materials because I could build with them myself and not worry about people seeing what I as building. My vault which is under my guy room is where I store ammo fort and other expensive items I own, it can also serve as a storm shelter and safe room. Your gun room is baller. WAIT...YOU HAVE MORE STUFF DOWNSTAIRS??????? Yes but I will never share photographs of the room. The ones I have taken on a USB drive and locked in a safe deposit box at the bank. My only mistake when build the lower room was not thinking about storing 12.5k round drums in there. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 12:32:07 AM EDT
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To date, I have not built a concrete gun safe.
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Posted: 2/12/2016 12:33:14 AM EDT
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I'd be looking online for designs
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Posted: 2/12/2016 12:36:43 AM EDT
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I look forward to these types of threads It comes with being new. |
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Posted: 2/12/2016 12:45:48 AM EDT
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Graffunder Safe and Vault..they have no equal. Trust me. I searched.
I built my room 8"thick with a double mat of 3/4" Rebar on 6" centers. All sides . It also has two layers of 5/8" FireRok fireproof sheetrock. Each sheet has a 2 hour burn time. Still waiting on my shelf guy. They will match the wood on the trim. I opted for the black chrome handle and hardware. Also went for a mechanical lock. Just dont trust a keypad..should the batteries die.etc..
Any other questions or pics just ask.its totally worth it. I have room for guns, and was planning ahead since i have a young son and daughter. 
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