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Posted: 10/6/2004 10:39:20 AM EST
Go Vote.

www.kirotv.com/news/3786913/detail.html

Do you think concealed weapons should be legal across the United States?
Choice Votes Percentage of 12767 Votes
Yes 7092 56%
No 5675 44%

Have at :)

Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:40:27 AM EST
Check.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:41:00 AM EST
Yes 56%

No 44%
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:41:05 AM EST
Hit.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:41:59 AM EST
Hit.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:43:37 AM EST
done.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:44:05 AM EST
Do you think concealed weapons should be legal across the United States?
Choice Votes Percentage of 12868 Votes
Yes 7159 56%
No 5709 44%
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:44:24 AM EST
Still 56% yes and 44% no. I hate that KS is still one of the last states not to have it.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:47:02 AM EST
Same here. Let's drink and cuss.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:47:51 AM EST
hit

Yes 7201 56%
No 5730 44%
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:49:41 AM EST
great idea! have a national CHL card. finger prints, ID, everything on one card
let it run a fwe years and then require everyone get one. or add a picture ID to the
social security card.

so with one national card you get Social Security, mil ID, Civilian ID, Drivers license. CHL, it will tell you if you are a felon, child molester, wife beater, dead beat dad.

but what do we give the undocumented workers?
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:49:52 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/6/2004 10:53:27 AM EST by fight4yourrights]
DUPE! - Poll to slam


+1 IBTL
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:49:55 AM EST

Originally Posted By Tras:
Same here. Let's drink and cuss.



I'm game.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:58:22 AM EST
Interesting article with it. Perhaps such a device could be built which uses a .410 shotshell or maybe a 20 gauge shotshell instead of a handload.

Gun Shop Debuts Credit-Card Shaped Shotgun

MINNEAPOLIS -- A new weapon coming on the market is not exactly the stuff of James Bond, but it's close. This credit card-sized, two-shot gun is produced by Patrick Teel of Minneapolis, Minn.

A Minnesota gun maker has a new twist on the idea of concealable weapons: a credit-card shotgun.

The shotgun almost fits in your wallet.

The double-barrel firearm is made from a piece of metal about the size of a credit card -- and about half-an-inch thick with each barrel firing seven standard steel BB's. It retails for $100.

The Minneapolis manufacturer said the guns are for close-range self-defense.

They need a fair amount of time for loading. The user has to measure out gunpowder, pour it in each barrel, drop seven steel BBs in each barrel and tamp in a small wad of paper.

The gunmaker said it gives the owner a chance to flee an attacker. Skeptics said it would be useless in a crisis.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 11:06:11 AM EST
I guess I hold a different opinion here because I don't want a Federal permit. I want it left up to the states. The less federal.gov the better in my opinion.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 11:08:47 AM EST
Do you think concealed weapons should be legal across the United States?
Choice Votes Percentage of 13323 Votes
Yes 7438 56%
No 5885 44%
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 11:13:31 AM EST
Hit.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 11:15:29 AM EST

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
DUPE! - Poll to slam


+1 IBTL


LOL...

Man, you're all over the dupes today.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 11:16:37 AM EST
Done
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 11:17:11 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/6/2004 11:17:31 AM EST by fight4yourrights]

Originally Posted By osprey21:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
DUPE! - Poll to slam


+1 IBTL


LOL...

Man, you're all over the dupes today.




I think I got addicted to post count when I made the rankings. Didn't give a shit before then.

Remembering dupes does work the grey matter a little.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 11:19:36 AM EST
Hit it
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 11:27:04 AM EST
Still 56/44.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 12:20:30 PM EST

Originally Posted By tcsd1236:
Still 56/44.



Hit. Still the same.


Bigfeet
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 12:22:15 PM EST
Not only that but there should be no ID required to do it.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 12:28:30 PM EST
Yes 8150
No 6295

(shrug)
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 12:31:31 PM EST
hit
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 12:32:49 PM EST
Do you think concealed weapons should be legal across the United States?

Choice
Votes
Percentage of 14495 Votes

Yes
8184
56%

No
­6311
44%
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 12:35:31 PM EST
hit it
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 12:35:35 PM EST
YES 8204 (56%)
NO 6321 (44%)
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 12:37:14 PM EST
Do you think concealed weapons should be legal across the United States?
Percentage of 14552 Votes
Yes 8223 57%
No 6329 43%
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 12:45:10 PM EST
Yes 8266 56%
No 6370 44%
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 12:50:59 PM EST
57 to 43 now.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 12:52:34 PM EST

Originally Posted By M4arc:
I guess I hold a different opinion here because I don't want a Federal permit. I want it left up to the states. The less federal.gov the better in my opinion.



It's not about a Federal Permit, it's about forcing states to recognize other states CCW's like they recognize other states driver's licenses.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 1:00:25 PM EST

Do you think concealed weapons should be legal across the United States?
Choice Votes Percentage of 14833 Votes
Yes 8392 57%
No 6441 43%



Link Posted: 10/6/2004 1:03:59 PM EST

Originally Posted By motown_steve:

Originally Posted By M4arc:
I guess I hold a different opinion here because I don't want a Federal permit. I want it left up to the states. The less federal.gov the better in my opinion.



It's not about a Federal Permit, it's about forcing states to recognize other states CCW's like they recognize other states driver's licenses.



Thank you for setting me straight on the issue! Next time I should actually READ instead of assuming. We all know what happens when we assume and I definately made and ass out of myself! For some reason I believed this was the same issue as the nation-wide LEO permit but only for Civilians.

I'll crawl back under my rock and lick my wounds now!

Link Posted: 10/6/2004 1:05:21 PM EST
No, it shouldn't be legal

Cops already have the ability to carry concealed, you don't need it

Link Posted: 10/6/2004 1:05:45 PM EST
Do you think concealed weapons should be legal across the United States?
Choice Votes Percentage of 14884 Votes
Yes 8429 57%
No 6455 43%
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 1:08:41 PM EST
Choice Votes Percentage of 14905 Votes
Yes 8442 57%
No 6463 43%
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 1:12:24 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 1:13:17 PM EST
According to the second ammendment, it already is legal....but those revisionist state laws seem to get in the fkn way!
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 1:19:12 PM EST

Originally Posted By macro:
According to the second ammendment, it already is legal....but those revisionist state laws seem to get in the fkn way!



+1

Link Posted: 10/6/2004 1:20:14 PM EST

Choice Votes Percentage of 15026 Votes
Yes 8525 57%
No 6501 43%

Link Posted: 10/7/2004 6:35:56 AM EST

Originally Posted By macro:
According to the second ammendment, it already is legal....but those revisionist state laws seem to get in the fkn way!



+2!


Originally Posted By guardian855:
No, it shouldn't be legal

Cops already have the ability to carry concealed, you don't need it




So then what is someone to do if no "cops" are around, and a bad guy wants to rape/rob/kill you? Too bad? Tough luck? I think not - get a firm grip on REALITY. You pull out your (concealed) 9mm and convince him that isn't approprite behavior. Or - in YOUR scenario, aquiess and submit to being raped/robbed/killed. Survival of the fittest I suppose.

I despise asshats..... and criminals... but I repeat myself....

Link Posted: 10/7/2004 8:18:26 AM EST

Originally Posted By Palo_Duro:
Not only that but there should be no ID required to do it.


How would you verify that the person you were dealing with was checked out and considered to be a law abiding person, if no actual permit was issued?
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 8:24:53 AM EST
Do you think concealed weapons should be legal across the United States?
Choice Votes Percentage of 21061 Votes
Yes 12496 59%
No 8565 41%
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 8:27:49 AM EST
Hit
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 8:30:02 AM EST
Do you think concealed weapons should be legal across the United States?
Choice Votes Percentage of 21110 Votes
Yes 12527 59%
No 8583 41%
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 8:34:08 AM EST
We have pulled out to a 59% to 41% lead.
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 8:35:18 AM EST
Yes
12547 59%

No
8604 41%
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 4:42:55 PM EST
YES....59%

NO....41%
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 7:03:53 PM EST
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