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Posted: 4/20/2017 12:35:52 PM EDT
 Colt CQBP M45A1 Decommissioned 1911 USMC Special Operations Pistol |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 12:41:48 PM EDT
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So a US marshal firearm failure is a boon to collectors...
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Posted: 4/20/2017 12:47:44 PM EDT
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That guy sounds like a late night infomercial. He barely talks about the gun but keeps repeating prices, value, and collectability.
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Posted: 4/20/2017 12:50:56 PM EDT
[#3]
I would love to own one. But i love military surplus stuff
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Posted: 4/20/2017 12:51:28 PM EDT
[#4]
Yes, for U.S. Martial arms collectors. US Marshal arms collectors not so much.
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Posted: 4/20/2017 12:57:52 PM EDT
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That guy sounds like a late night infomercial. He barely talks about the gun but keeps repeating prices, value, and collectability. |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 1:02:01 PM EDT
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LOL
"i would say the price is gonna settle in between 2 & 5... thousand." On gunbroker right now and theres multiple available for around 1600 that are in way better condition than the beat to shit one he has in the video.... |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 1:03:14 PM EDT
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The first few on GB went under 1400 if i recall, then up to 1800 then 2200. Guys were flipping them in mid 3s a week later. A local guy got one that was in pretty good shape.
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Posted: 4/20/2017 1:06:50 PM EDT
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LOL "i would say the price is gonna settle in between 2 & 5... thousand." On gunbroker right now and theres multiple available for around 1600 that are in way better condition than the beat to shit one he has in the video.... |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 1:06:56 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/20/2017 1:08:21 PM EDT
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Are they guns that were issued though? this one is and its 1525 currently same condition as his was....definitely not 2 to 5 thousand |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 1:08:24 PM EDT
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LOL "i would say the price is gonna settle in between 2 & 5... thousand." On gunbroker right now and theres multiple available for around 1600 that are in way better condition than the beat to shit one he has in the video.... |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 1:13:02 PM EDT
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nvm - your post above shows otherwise. Apparently some people are paying that much for them. 
EDIT: On second thought if I was a vet that carried one I could see the appeal If I WAS gonna drop the cash on one I'd buy this one thats listed as NIB & USMC marked. http://www.gunbroker.com/item/638865759 |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 1:16:17 PM EDT
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http://www.gunbroker.com/item/639382677 this one is and its 1525 currently same condition as his was....definitely not 2 to 5 thousand Wish I had picked one up for $1350 a month ago when they first got listed as a BIN price. |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 1:26:32 PM EDT
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Already has 7 bids and still has 10 days left.. it'll surpass 2k. Wish I had picked one up for $1350 a month ago when they first got listed as a BIN price. If you wait a few months the demand will come down and you can find one for a price closer to the original 1350. |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 1:26:45 PM EDT
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Any idea why they're already dropping the M45A1? I thought they just got them a few years ago?
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Posted: 4/20/2017 1:31:29 PM EDT
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Any idea why they're already dropping the M45A1? I thought they just got them a few years ago?
I believe I read on here the frames were cracking initially during some testing and possibly remember something about the finish as well. Don't quote me on that though (looking it up now) |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 1:35:10 PM EDT
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Because they decided they wanted a sidearm that works
I believe I read on here the frames were cracking initially during some testing and possibly remember something about the finish as well. Don't quote me on that though (looking it up now) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any idea why they're already dropping the M45A1? I thought they just got them a few years ago?
I believe I read on here the frames were cracking initially during some testing and possibly remember something about the finish as well. Don't quote me on that though (looking it up now) |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 1:36:49 PM EDT
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Yes, for U.S. Martial arms collectors. US Marshal arms collectors not so much.
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Posted: 4/20/2017 1:37:17 PM EDT
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This is a finish issue only. The cerakote was failing, so they rejected the batch, and Colt is doing a true surface treatment instead of glorified paint. I wondered if maybe they were going to the M9A3 or something for a moment. |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 1:43:36 PM EDT
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I wish I had the cash available when the first batch of these came out for sale.
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Posted: 4/20/2017 1:44:22 PM EDT
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So they (USMC) are still sticking with the M45A1? I wondered if maybe they were going to the M9A3 or something for a moment. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is a finish issue only. The cerakote was failing, so they rejected the batch, and Colt is doing a true surface treatment instead of glorified paint. I wondered if maybe they were going to the M9A3 or something for a moment. |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 1:44:34 PM EDT
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So they (USMC) are still sticking with the M45A1? I wondered if maybe they were going to the M9A3 or something for a moment. The Slides were cracking and apparently the entire testing and bidding situation was a fucked up mess: http://soldiersystems.net/2012/07/20/marsoc-winning-colt-guns/ |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 1:44:46 PM EDT
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So they (USMC) are still sticking with the M45A1? I wondered if maybe they were going to the M9A3 or something for a moment. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is a finish issue only. The cerakote was failing, so they rejected the batch, and Colt is doing a true surface treatment instead of glorified paint. I wondered if maybe they were going to the M9A3 or something for a moment. |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 1:46:02 PM EDT
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I don't think the entire USMC was/is ever solely adopting the Colt M45A1, as its main sidearm. The Colt "won" a contract for guns for the cool guy units not everyone. The more recently adopted the Glock 19. The Slides were cracking: http://soldiersystems.net/2012/07/20/marsoc-winning-colt-guns/ Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So they (USMC) are still sticking with the M45A1? I wondered if maybe they were going to the M9A3 or something for a moment. The Slides were cracking: http://soldiersystems.net/2012/07/20/marsoc-winning-colt-guns/ |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 1:46:43 PM EDT
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I really recommend checking out the MEU(SOC)/M45A1 thread in the 1911 forum. Lots and lots of good information in that thread concerning these guns and the testing and adoption process.
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Posted: 4/20/2017 1:47:15 PM EDT
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Aren't these the ones that had frames cracking? A fool and his money and all that...
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Posted: 4/20/2017 1:47:42 PM EDT
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This isn't a force-wide issued weapon. But whomever is supposed to be using these things are still going to be (at least able to) getting them. Just with a different finish. |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 1:48:39 PM EDT
[#28]
I entered a raffle for 20 bucks for one of these. I'll see who else wins this time
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Posted: 4/20/2017 1:48:55 PM EDT
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That is a separate issue that has nothing to do with the guns in question. The current M45A1, so far as anyone has reported, does not have the same problems as you story from 2012. |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 5:51:51 PM EDT
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Yawn. Wake me when the commemorative MARSOC Glocks get here...
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Posted: 4/20/2017 5:54:52 PM EDT
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Yawn. Wake me when the commemorative MARSOC Glocks get here... 
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Posted: 4/21/2017 7:34:16 AM EDT
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True, but it seems like other stuff like this in that if you don't get it on the initial buy just wait it out. Now is the hottest time to sell one, right? If you wait a few months the demand will come down and you can find one for a price closer to the original 1350. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 7:56:23 AM EDT
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So there are X Marines
There's a thread in the 1911 forum with lots of pics of these |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 8:03:42 AM EDT
[#34]
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Already has 7 bids and still has 10 days left.. it'll surpass 2k. Wish I had picked one up for $1350 a month ago when they first got listed as a BIN price. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://www.gunbroker.com/item/639382677 this one is and its 1525 currently same condition as his was....definitely not 2 to 5 thousand Wish I had picked one up for $1350 a month ago when they first got listed as a BIN price. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 8:07:12 AM EDT
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Prices will settle back down, not worth it for the price. Anyone that jumped on the original deal got a good price.
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Posted: 4/21/2017 8:14:32 AM EDT
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Because they decided they wanted a sidearm that works
I believe I read on here the frames were cracking initially during some testing and possibly remember something about the finish as well. Don't quote me on that though (looking it up now) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any idea why they're already dropping the M45A1? I thought they just got them a few years ago?
I believe I read on here the frames were cracking initially during some testing and possibly remember something about the finish as well. Don't quote me on that though (looking it up now) |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 8:18:25 AM EDT
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About the only way I'm buying one is getting in my time machine and buying one then. No way I'd ever pay $2k+ for one... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://www.gunbroker.com/item/639382677 this one is and its 1525 currently same condition as his was....definitely not 2 to 5 thousand Wish I had picked one up for $1350 a month ago when they first got listed as a BIN price. Having one would be neat, but not at the prices they're at. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 8:59:16 AM EDT
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Yes, for U.S. Martial arms collectors. US Marshal arms collectors not so much. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 9:08:35 AM EDT
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To rich for my blood
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Posted: 4/21/2017 9:44:45 AM EDT
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http://www.gunbroker.com/item/639382677 this one is and its 1525 currently same condition as his was....definitely not 2 to 5 thousand  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 9:51:33 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2017 9:52:52 AM EDT
[#42]
Fools and their money.....
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Posted: 4/21/2017 9:53:31 AM EDT
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I posted a thread about a month or two ago talking about the Cold M45A1. Looking over the specs of it and Springfield Armory pistols, it seemed as though the Springfield is the way to go. I still plan on getting the Springfield when I get home, I just have to look up which one it was again. I can't remember if it was the TRP, Loaded, or something else.
Basically the difference came down to the price, and I'm not too much of a fan of Colt. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 9:59:11 AM EDT
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I posted a thread about a month or two ago talking about the Cold M45A1. Looking over the specs of it and Springfield Armory pistols, it seemed as though the Springfield is the way to go. I still plan on getting the Springfield when I get home, I just have to look up which one it was again. I can't remember if it was the TRP, Loaded, or something else. Basically the difference came down to the price, and I'm not too much of a fan of Colt.  Draw shoot reload |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 10:12:34 AM EDT
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http://www.gunbroker.com/item/639382677 this one is and its 1525 currently same condition as his was....definitely not 2 to 5 thousand Soooooooooooo |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 10:54:42 AM EDT
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Some of you guys are living on another planet. NIB USMC marked M45s have been selling for $3-4k all along.
These decommissioned pistols were actual military 1911s used during wartime that have a documentary history and were swapped out for new M45A1s. The story goes that the Marine Corps wanted them refinished to IonBond and Colt said it would be easier to send new IonBond finished guns. These will be *extremely* collectable in short order. If you don't "get it" then this isn't for you. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 10:57:43 AM EDT
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Fools and their money..... |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 1:18:24 PM EDT
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Pick up a few for me. Having one would be neat, but not at the prices they're at. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://www.gunbroker.com/item/639382677 this one is and its 1525 currently same condition as his was....definitely not 2 to 5 thousand Wish I had picked one up for $1350 a month ago when they first got listed as a BIN price. Having one would be neat, but not at the prices they're at. Quoted:
I posted a thread about a month or two ago talking about the Cold M45A1. Looking over the specs of it and Springfield Armory pistols, it seemed as though the Springfield is the way to go. I still plan on getting the Springfield when I get home, I just have to look up which one it was again. I can't remember if it was the TRP, Loaded, or something else. Basically the difference came down to the price, and I'm not too much of a fan of Colt. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 4:38:50 PM EDT
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Let me guess. You "invest" by using a savings account. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 5:01:12 PM EDT
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I posted a thread about a month or two ago talking about the Cold M45A1. Looking over the specs of it and Springfield Armory pistols, it seemed as though the Springfield is the way to go. I still plan on getting the Springfield when I get home, I just have to look up which one it was again. I can't remember if it was the TRP, Loaded, or something else. Basically the difference came down to the price, and I'm not too much of a fan of Colt. I chose the CCU over a TRP based mainly on the nicer finish and standard bushing/takedown. |
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