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Posted: 1/25/2014 12:45:01 AM EDT
what does arfcom approve of....?
been looking at underarmour and also the cabelas house brand. |
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High end is any of the merino wool stuff. I usually just grab polypro from patagucci or the like.
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I just have some old Cabela's branded polypro. Sock liners included. I'm sure the wool stuff mentioned works great but Colorado doesn't get Alaska cold and if it does I'm sure as shit not getting out in it.
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Lower body, I use silk sock liners and wool long johns. I think I got them both from REI. I haven't found any synthetics that are as warm.
Upper body, I wear an Under Armour Cold Gear compression shirt. It's pretty warm, and I'm wearing a coat anyway, so it works well. |
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Dude...it's a fucking conpsiracy around here; both Wal-Marts don't carry long-johns or hunting thermals. I don't understand why the fuck, either. I've been out to both of them multiple times and yesterday was the first day I saw some, and they were all size S/M and JUST THE FUCKING SHIRTS.
DUDE...WTFing FUCK!? |
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Smartwool, best but spendy
I wear Patagonia or REI brand stuff mainly, got some good deals at their Outlet online
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I bought cabelas ecwcs med. weight polartecs for duck hunting this past year. They've been pretty swell for me.
I couldn't justify the coin for wool. Now I just need to figure out sustained foot warmth.
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For the money I dont think you can beat the carrhart heavy thermal underwear.
$25 per piece, i wear it every day. It was close to zero here the other morning with 15 mph wind and all i had was my thermals and underwear on under my work pants. That was starting to push the limit but i wasnt cold by any means. Got mine at Attwoods and will be buying more. |
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If you want to shell out the bucks merino wool is the best. If not, polypro is the way to go. I have an UA coldgear shirt and it is not as good as the cheap military polypro that I have. I have these and they are great for the money. Four for $20 tops or bottoms.
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/4-new-us-military-surplus-polypro-ecws-long-underwear-pants.aspx?a=1537748 |
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Merino.
Worth its weight in gold. I buy smart wool off of Amazon. |
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Dude...it's a fucking conpsiracy around here; both Wal-Marts don't carry long-johns or hunting thermals. I don't understand why the fuck, either. I've been out to both of them multiple times and yesterday was the first day I saw some, and they were all size S/M and JUST THE FUCKING SHIRTS. DUDE...WTFing FUCK!? View Quote Ha. I grew up in Buffalo as a kid and you can buy long underwear at a fucking gas station! I was prepping for an AFG trip last year and went to buy some long johns and there wasn't a single store that carried them. In fact most folks didn't even know what I was referring to. This is Tampa though.... |
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Polyester/polypropylene is more durable but fine wool is more comfortable. Both are good choices and come in different weights/ thicknesses. Wool has the advantage that if you're tending to a fire it's not flammable whereas polyester will have a hole where the embers fall. If you're careful, it shouldn't be a problem.
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I just use cheap-ass Champion stuff from Target.
I'm out for about an hour at a time twice a day, pushing a heavy bike with studded ice tires at a moderate exertion level, so my layers are pretty thin to let me reject moisture. base layer, thin doubleknit poly insulating layer, very thin gore tex (gander mountain GSX) wind shell. I have a pair of orange 100 gm. thinsulate hunting gloves and "-35F-rated" Keen moon boots. My setup takes me down to about -20F in great comfort, as long as I keep moving. It would be completely unsuitable for standing around or sitting. ETA: Durability: most of my stuff is at 5~7 years old. Daily use in the cold, and it gets cycled through the laundry a lot. |
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Merino. Worth its weight in gold. I buy smart wool off of Amazon. View Quote you guys talked me into it...went for Icebreaker merino wool.. http://us.icebreaker.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-IB-US-Site/en/Home-Show twice as expensive as polypro...hope its worth it. |
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Military polypropylene is what you seek ..... It's what I wear & recommend to everyone !
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Past few days it been 12- 25 degrees here in VA. Working outside I've been comfortable wearing;
Underwear T-Shit Underarmour Bottoms Henley Carhartt Boot socks Basic Ploy-Cotton Uniform pants Flannel Shirt Fleece Vest Military wool shirt Carhartt Work Jacket With proper gloves, a hat and something to cover my ears, I've been very comfortable. Underarour beats the fuck out of the old style Long-johns. |
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In the army I always received Merino wool undergarments as special issue along with other specialized cold weather gear.
Poly pro is fine if you're a cheap bastard and don't mind being a stinky bastard after day 2. It's also great if you like dying a slow painful death if caught in a fire. Merino is superior and worth the money. |
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Surplus Med. weight G.I. Polypro is the bomb for when it gets below zero.
Pain in the ass for washing though, thanks to the dryer melting the stuff. I have like 6 sets that are crispy thanks to getting mixed in with work clothes. The Cheapo underarmor knockoff stuff from Wal-mart does ok too, especially under fleece midlayers when remaining active. Generic silkies under Carhart arctic coveralls does a hell of a good job when things get downright nasty. The Merino wool stuff is awesome, but again, can be a PITA if you wear it often and get sweaty. Special washing and drying is needed, as it can't just be tossed in on high in the dryer. If I'm just out for 3-4 hours and not going out in the woods or field all day, I'll just put on some cheapo cotton and put up with it getting soaked until I get back in and change. The cotton stuff washes clean of oil, grease, saw gas and diesel, plus it's cheap enough to end up as shop rags when it gets too bad. |
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I wear expedition weight poly 7 months out of the year up here in Michigan.
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I tried the lightest weight Cabela's EWCS this fall for bike riding and I think it's fine. It's made from Polartec. I'll probably buy the mid weight next.
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Dude...it's a fucking conpsiracy around here; both Wal-Marts don't carry long-johns or hunting thermals. I don't understand why the fuck, either. I've been out to both of them multiple times and yesterday was the first day I saw some, and they were all size S/M and JUST THE FUCKING SHIRTS. DUDE...WTFing FUCK!? View Quote In the fall wm had a lot of "starter" brand 100% polyester "cold compression" stuff that is pretty warm. It's pretty much gone now though It's not as thick as ua, but still pretty good for $16 I have some Merino will bottoms but the starter stuff seems warmer, maybe it's bc it's compression fit Brian |
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I like the mid-weight capilene from Patagonia; it's light, warm, wicks sweat and lasts forever.
I use their Expedition weight capilene for the coldest days - part of my winter mountaineering gear. |
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Past few days it been 12- 25 degrees here in VA. Working outside I've been comfortable wearing; Underwear T-Shit Underarmour Bottoms Henley Carhartt Boot socks Basic Ploy-Cotton Uniform pants Flannel Shirt Fleece Vest Military wool shirt Carhartt Work Jacket With proper gloves, a hat and something to cover my ears, I've been very comfortable. Underarour beats the fuck out of the old style Long-johns. View Quote +1 on the Carhart insulated Boot socks. I was shocked. I'm a sock and boot snob, and was shocked. I can run around in the snow and negative temps, wearing summer weight steel toe farm boots, and stay plenty warm with the Carhart socks. No need to drag out the Insulated Danner hunting boots and get them all stunk up with saw gas. Old style long johns? You must mean the cotton junk from Hanes. The old style red wool trapdoors are damn hard to beat still. Just itchy as hell until they get broken in, and washed with some lanolin. |
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Surplus Med. weight G.I. Polypro is the bomb for when it gets below zero. Pain in the ass for washing though, thanks to the dryer melting the stuff. I have like 6 sets that are crispy thanks to getting mixed in with work clothes. View Quote Yeah ..... The dryer will shrink that shit up real quick ! Hell ... I have the tops & the bottoms & can only wear the bottoms because if I wear both I get to damn hot !!! |
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Cheap: REI Polartec
Pricey: Smartwool I'd go with the Smartwool, they're pretty fucking awesome |
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Military polypropylene is what you seek ..... It's what I wear & recommend to everyone ! View Quote Works for me. I have a set of the older black polypros and they do a fine job underneath my work clothes. I drive a flatbed 18-wheeler to Chicago twice a week so I'm outside in the cold/wind/snow/wind/wind unstrapping and folding tarps. Outer layers are polypro balaclava, Duluth Trading Company 'trucker coat', Dickies work pants, and 1000gram Georgia work boots. I need a better hat but this setup keeps me plenty warm down to -10F as long as I'm moving. |
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yeah, i was thinking of merino wool...love that stuff...probably not interested in spending that much money though View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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High end is any of the merino wool stuff. I usually just grab polypro from patagucci or the like. yeah, i was thinking of merino wool...love that stuff...probably not interested in spending that much money though I picked up a bunch of merino wool tops from dept. store clearance sales. They were slight v-necks but functioned fine in the layer stack. |
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I have Underarmor, The North Face and Nike Dri-Fit and love them.
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Yeah ..... The dryer will shrink that shit up real quick ! Hell ... I have the tops & the bottoms & can only wear the bottoms because if I wear both I get to damn hot !!! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Surplus Med. weight G.I. Polypro is the bomb for when it gets below zero. Pain in the ass for washing though, thanks to the dryer melting the stuff. I have like 6 sets that are crispy thanks to getting mixed in with work clothes. Yeah ..... The dryer will shrink that shit up real quick ! Hell ... I have the tops & the bottoms & can only wear the bottoms because if I wear both I get to damn hot !!! It's a Lattitude thing. Come on up for a week and they work perfectly together. |
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https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQzGB2nbmw4wJsKkQaJvIrkjm4PAKKn6nXSkieKJKYZ_YL88-iw I have the old school type like the one's above. They actually have a " newer " generation also that " feels " like a thinner material. You can get these for a very good price if you shop around ..... Unless if you must absolutely have to have the ones with the U-A logo ..... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Military polypropylene is what you seek ..... It's what I wear & recommend to everyone ! Works for me. I have a set of the older black polypros and they do a fine job underneath my work clothes. I drive a flatbed 18-wheeler to Chicago twice a week so I'm outside in the cold/wind/snow/wind/wind unstrapping and folding tarps. Outer layers are polypro balaclava, Duluth Trading Company 'trucker coat', Dickies work pants, and 1000gram Georgia work boots. I need a better hat but this setup keeps me plenty warm down to -10F as long as I'm moving. https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQzGB2nbmw4wJsKkQaJvIrkjm4PAKKn6nXSkieKJKYZ_YL88-iw I have the old school type like the one's above. They actually have a " newer " generation also that " feels " like a thinner material. You can get these for a very good price if you shop around ..... Unless if you must absolutely have to have the ones with the U-A logo ..... What is the 'newer' generations called? is it still polypro or fleece? I have some of the brown polypro and i agree it is very warm.. Im sure its the older version though.. brian |
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I bought cabelas ecwcs med. weight polartecs for duck hunting this past year. They've been pretty swell for me. I couldn't justify the coin for wool. Now I just need to figure out sustained foot warmth. View Quote These socks are really, really warm. http://www.amazon.com/Heat-Holders-Extra-Charcoal-1-Pair/dp/B0093FXJO2/ref=pd_sim_hpc_2 |
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I know you mentioned you don't want to spend a lot of money, but wool is worth the price of admission.
Wool, alpaca, or a wool/alpaca blend is hard to beat for warmth and its ability to wick moisture away from your body. There are other man made products out there for base layers, but many will do nothing but keep you soaked in your own perspiration.
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I know you mentioned you don't want to spend a lot of money, but wool is worth the price of admission. Wool, alpaca, or a wool/alpaca blend is hard to beat for warmth and its ability to wick moisture away from your body. There are other man made products out there for base layers, but many will do nothing but keep you soaked in your own perspiration. View Quote Alpaca? Sorry do you know anyone with a set of goat leggings? Alpaca |
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Underarmour is extremely overpriced and overrated for cold weather. I have tried it, but
it still does not work as well as my old Duofold double layer polypro and merino wool. Recently, I bought some Layer 8 shirts at TJ Maxx for $10 each. It's the mock neck thicker ones with soft fleece in the inside and they work very well and outperform Underarmour for cold weather. The Layer 8 stuff proved it's worth in the recent -15 degree weather we had here in MI. |
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cant stand wool, even the fine shit
knock off underarmour from cabellas as a base, then wool/fleece |
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Patagonia capilene. I use it backpacking, climbing, camping, cycling. Layers great, lots of versatility between levels 1-4, depending on how warm you want to be.
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Polypro sock liners, wool socks, polypro tops and bottoms with a pullover fleece over that. Top it all off with a 550 fill down coat and I am never cold.
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Been cold here in Michigan, and thought I'd throw this idea out here...FLEECE LINED PANTS. Either jeans or as I prefer...CARGO PANTS! For you cold weather climate guys, try 'em, you will never wear anything else. Flannel lined are OK, but not as warm.
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what does arfcom approve of....? been looking at underarmour and also the cabelas house brand. View Quote The Cabelas "mid-weight" is pretty light weight. The wool stuff the Army issued me back in the 80's works better. |
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A set of ColdPruf thermals, flannel lined Carhart pants, a midweight fleece top, carhart sherpa lined hooded jacket, neoprene face mask, wool socks, and Sorrel pacboots, have kept me nice and warm all the way down to -30. What I have yet to find are good gloves that keep my fingers warm once it drops into the teens or below. I probably have 10 pairs of gloves sitting in a box, from cheapo ones to expensive ones.
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A set of ColdPruf thermals, flannel lined Carhart pants, a midweight fleece top, carhart sherpa lined hooded jacket, neoprene face mask, wool socks, and Sorrel pacboots, have kept me nice and warm all the way down to -30. What I have yet to find are good gloves that keep my fingers warm once it drops into the teens or below. I probably have 10 pairs of gloves sitting in a box, from cheapo ones to expensive ones. View Quote Are you dead-set on gloves? Try mittens. I've got a pair of fleece-lined wool mittens that are actually too hot to wear until it gets below zero. |
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