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Posted: 1/8/2005 11:48:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/8/2005 11:49:38 AM EDT by Epsilon]
Ive heard for awhile that theres one or two civilian legal Hk G11s floating around.....any truth to this?

Link Posted: 1/8/2005 11:51:19 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Epsilon:
Ive heard for awhile that theres one or two civilian legal Hk G11s floating around.....any truth to this?




None.  End of story.  You'd have a better chance of seeing a UFO than owning a civi G11.  
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 11:52:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Rem700PSS:

Originally Posted By Epsilon:
Ive heard for awhile that theres one or two civilian legal Hk G11s floating around.....any truth to this?




None.  End of story.  You'd have a better chance of seeing a UFO than owning a civi G11.  



www.jobrelatedstuff.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=311901

Link Posted: 1/8/2005 11:56:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/8/2005 11:57:03 AM EDT by Epsilon]

None. End of story. You'd have a better chance of seeing a UFO than owning a civi G11.


You sure.  A year or two back at Hkpro, there was a big discussion about there being 1 or 2 civilian G11s that were registered.  I forgot what the truth turned out to be though.
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 12:03:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Epsilon:

None. End of story. You'd have a better chance of seeing a UFO than owning a civi G11.


You sure.  A year or two back at Hkpro, there was a big discussion about there being 1 or 2 civilian G11s that were registered.  I forgot what the truth turned out to be though.




Great, how do you get ammo?
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 12:06:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sherm8404:

Originally Posted By Epsilon:

None. End of story. You'd have a better chance of seeing a UFO than owning a civi G11.


You sure.  A year or two back at Hkpro, there was a big discussion about there being 1 or 2 civilian G11s that were registered.  I forgot what the truth turned out to be though.




Great, how do you get ammo?



I have a feeling you make it
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 12:07:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By x5060:

Originally Posted By sherm8404:

Great, how do you get ammo?



I have a feeling you make it



Id like to see how you do that.
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 12:08:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/8/2005 12:10:25 PM EDT by Rem700PSS]

Originally Posted By motown_steve:

Originally Posted By Rem700PSS:

Originally Posted By Epsilon:
Ive heard for awhile that theres one or two civilian legal Hk G11s floating around.....any truth to this?




None.  End of story.  You'd have a better chance of seeing a UFO than owning a civi G11.  



www.jobrelatedstuff.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=311901




Ya know...as soon as I posted in this thread...I went and looked at that thread...I was so shocked that I went up to my attic and opend up a chest...sure enough...there was a civilian registered G11 in there!  



Even if the G11 did make it to the civilian market way back when, it would have been released in VERY low quanties...perhaps 2-3 and to get one, you'd have to have some 1. serious doe and 2.  serious inside HK connections to get your hands on one.

I wouldn't be hoping very hard to get one someday.  

Not only that, but ammo would be EXTREMELY rare.  I even doubt you'd, or anyone, would be able to obtain any.  May as well buy a Dardic with some trounds.  
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 1:14:02 PM EDT
Excuse my ignorance, but what is an HK G11?  Any pics?
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 1:15:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/8/2005 1:16:30 PM EDT by leonUK]
see here and here for pics and info
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 1:24:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/8/2005 1:29:00 PM EDT by napalm]

Originally Posted By leonUK:
see here and here for pics and info






Hey! A 2x6 with a pistol grip!

Link Posted: 1/8/2005 1:39:37 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 1:45:29 PM EDT

And that is basically what happened to the G11. It shared a similar fate with another advanced arm the AN-94 in that the developing country could not afford to produce it, or arm their own forces, in any kind of quantity.



I thought the AN-94 is being used by Russia.

The AN-94 is pretty strange,
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 2:11:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Epsilon:

And that is basically what happened to the G11. It shared a similar fate with another advanced arm the AN-94 in that the developing country could not afford to produce it, or arm their own forces, in any kind of quantity.



I thought the AN-94 is being used by Russia.

The AN-94 is pretty strange,



The AN-94 is used by Russia, but what he is saying is Russia did not have the funds to produce it and the project was scrapped.  Same story of the G11.  HK spent all the money developing and Germany decided that they couldn't afford it so they scrapped it too.  

But thats okay, cause then Germany got the G36  

The G11 is probibaly the most technilogically advanced assault rifle in the world...ever.  
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 2:28:26 PM EDT

The G11 is probibaly the most technilogically advanced assault rifle in the world...ever.



But damn is it ugly.  

So do you think the FN 2000 is high on the advanced list.  I mean come on...it was used in Halo.
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 2:32:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Epsilon:

The G11 is probibaly the most technilogically advanced assault rifle in the world...ever.



But damn is it ugly.  

So do you think the FN 2000 is high on the advanced list.  I mean come on...it was used in Halo.



The only thing the F2000 has to its name is sighting module.  Other than that...plain ol` bullpup 5.56mm.  The OICW is more advantaced than that as too is the M4 Land Warrior.  

The G11 is in a whole other catagory.  Caseless ammo, 3rd burst at 2100rpm, 50rd mag, extra stored in gun.  Its quite the beast.  Yes, it is ugly, but then again it was created in the 80's and didn't make it past prototype.  Every gun ends up looking different when adopt as opposed to its prototype.  
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 3:14:39 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 3:36:17 PM EDT
Damn, that is an ugly gun.  Is it also a .22 caliber?
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 7:30:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Jason280:
Damn, that is an ugly gun.  Is it also a .22 caliber?

4.7mm IIRC.
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 7:41:38 PM EDT
This may be a dumb question, but is it possible to access the NFA registry?  I see so much speculation on this forum about what may or may not exist and in what quantity.  Surely there is a list somewhere.  Who has access to it?  Only the ATF?  

Obviously, we don't have any business knowing who has what and where, but I don't see what harm could come of knowing what all is out there.  Maybe I'm missing something.
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 7:44:52 PM EDT
On a semi related note, is HK still owned by British Aerospace?
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 7:47:03 PM EDT
Wait a minute now, you doubters.  My brother-in-law's best friend's cousin saw a G11 for sale at a gun show booth in Wheeling, West Virginia.  He tried to make a trade for it but the vendor ended up trying to choke him.  I know that this is a true story because the guy had a picture of the G11 but the camera got broken in the struggle at the show.  I swear, really.
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 8:51:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By joker581:
On a semi related note, is HK still owned by British Aerospace?



No it is back in German hands.
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 8:58:29 PM EDT
Where do you buy the caseless ammo it requires?
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 9:03:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By napalm:

Originally Posted By leonUK:
see here and here for pics and info



remtek.com/arms/hk/mil/g11/g11.gif


Hey! A 2x6 with a pistol grip!




Man I never saw one with the bayonette fixed.  I'd hate to run through a bayonette course with one.
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 10:11:38 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 10:38:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By jkstexas2001:
Where do you buy the caseless ammo it requires?

You don't . This is not a load up a mag and go system . IIRC each mag is facotry loaded and sealed for use .
Link Posted: 1/8/2005 10:42:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/8/2005 10:45:47 PM EDT by SteyrAUG]
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 10:41:32 AM EDT

You don't . This is not a load up a mag and go system . IIRC each mag is facotry loaded and sealed for use .


I think your thinking about the Hk P11 underwater pistol.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 2:19:09 PM EDT
OK I lose . I don't know what I was thinking about , but I remeber there was a HK product that you couldn't get ammo for , just loaded mags and that was all .

The magazine can be manually reloaded with individual cartridges or directly from the packing unit, which can be used as a loading device.

remtek.com/arms/hk/mil/g11/caseless.htm
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 3:46:31 PM EDT

OK I lose . I don't know what I was thinking about , but I remeber there was a HK product that you couldn't get ammo for , just loaded mags and that was all .


Is this what you were thinking about?

P11
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 4:03:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Rem700PSS:

Originally Posted By Epsilon:

The G11 is probibaly the most technilogically advanced assault rifle in the world...ever.



But damn is it ugly.  

So do you think the FN 2000 is high on the advanced list.  I mean come on...it was used in Halo.



The only thing the F2000 has to its name is sighting module.  Other than that...plain ol` bullpup 5.56mm.



The FN 2000 is unique among bullpups because it ejects rounds out the front. This solves the most important problems with bullpups, which is left-handed use. So you get the best of both worlds; the longer barrels and shorter overall length of a bullpup, but in a weapon that can be fired from either shoulder just as easily as a non-bullpup.

If it proves reliable, it would be an excellent next service rifle. FAR superior to the XM8.
Link Posted: 1/9/2005 5:08:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Epsilon:

OK I lose . I don't know what I was thinking about , but I remeber there was a HK product that you couldn't get ammo for , just loaded mags and that was all .


Is this what you were thinking about?

P11

Yea that might be it .
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