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Posted: 8/3/2009 5:09:58 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/3/2009 5:10:59 AM EST by Texkaw]
Didn't see another thread on this yet...looks like KrystalNacht for Non-Muslims living in Muslim countries.


Christian Family Burned to Death in Pakistan After Koran is 'Defiled'
Monday , August 03, 2009


Paramilitary troops patrolled the streets of a town in eastern Pakistan yesterday after Muslim radicals burned to death eight members of a Christian family, raising fears of violence spreading to other areas.

Hundreds of armed supporters of Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, an outlawed Islamic militant group, burned dozens of Christian homes in Gojra over the weekend after allegations that a copy of the Koran had been defiled.

The mob opened fire indiscriminately, threw petrol bombs and looted houses as thousands of frightened Christians ran for safety. “They were shouting anti-Christian slogans and attacked our houses,” Rafiq Masih, a resident of the predominantly Christian colony, said. Residents said that police stood aside while the mob went on the rampage. “We kept begging for protection, but police did not take action,” Mr Masih said.

Police and local officials said that at least eight people, including four women and a child, were killed in the fires. Two others died of gunshot wounds. Residents said that the casualties were much higher; one claimed that the number of dead could be in the dozens as many bodies were still buried under the rubble. Shahbaz Bhatti, the Minister for Minorities, said that 40 Christian homes were torched in rioting. He said there was no truth to allegations that a Koran had been defiled, and accused the police of ignoring his appeal to provide protection to Christians.

Tension started mounting last week after Muslims accused three Christian youths of burning a copy of the Koran. They denied the allegations, but clerics called for their death. On Saturday, hundreds of supporters of Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, an outlawed Sunni sectarian group, poured into the town from surrounding districts. The group is believed to have close links with Al Qaeda and has been involved in several terrorist attacks targeting security forces in recent years.

Television footage showed armed men running through the streets, gunfire, and women and children wailing. Blackened furniture lay outside burning homes, while a group of people rushed a man suffering from burns on a cart through the streets. Rehman Malik, the Interior Minister, said that the paramilitary troops were sent after police and the local administration failed to control the situation. Security forces were also placed on high alert to prevent violence from spreading to other towns of Punjab.





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Link Posted: 8/3/2009 5:11:06 AM EST
Damn those Christians!
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 5:15:10 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/3/2009 5:15:49 AM EST by Texkaw]
Looks like tolerance for Muslims is a one-way street.
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 5:16:57 AM EST
Where is this supposed defiled koran
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 5:17:47 AM EST
their fault they shouldn't have been Christians.

also they still owe reparations for the crusades.
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 5:19:03 AM EST
Religion of peace strikes again!
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 5:21:46 AM EST
ibtl
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 5:25:25 AM EST
I wouldn't want to be a Christian living in a Muslim country. While *most* of the Muslims there would leave you at peace, no one, but no one can seem to control these extremist Islamists. And their Islamic governments to next to nothing to help.
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 5:25:43 AM EST
How could they possibly live unarmed in a place like that?


- BG
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 5:28:06 AM EST
What; Obama doesnt have shit to say?

amazing...
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 5:42:05 AM EST
Islam the relgion of peace........
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 5:44:12 AM EST
Moving seems to be a good idea.
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 5:51:13 AM EST
I never understood pacifict Christians. Jesus pretty explicitly recommended arming yourself.
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 5:54:16 AM EST
Isolated incident...
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 5:55:15 AM EST
...if your government allows you to arm yourself...
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 6:07:00 AM EST
Will the UN be stepping in to defend victims of genocide?
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 6:09:38 AM EST
Originally Posted By David14:
Will the UN be stepping in to defend victims of genocide?


They can't guarantee their troops will be able to get away with their child molestations, so they'll remain silent.
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 6:11:39 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 6:13:22 AM EST
ROP wins again.

I don't care what anyone says about the crusades, one side is continuing the hostilities and it's not the Christians.
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 6:13:26 AM EST
My unfoulable and unproveable god says that you worship a differing unfoulable and unproveable god, this angers his ego. Bring on the fire bombs and 7.62.
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 6:14:18 AM EST
Originally Posted By Bed_Head:
I wouldn't want to be a Christian living in a Muslim country. While *most* of the Muslims there would leave you at peace, no one, but no one can seem to control these extremist Islamists. And their Islamic governments to next to nothing to help.


Apparently the local Police intentionally did nothing to stop the perps here.
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 6:20:14 AM EST
Originally Posted By Bed_Head:
I wouldn't want to be a Christian living in a Muslim country. While *most* of the Muslims there would leave you at peace, no one, but no one can seem to control these extremist Islamists. And their Islamic governments to next to nothing to help.


You would be incorrect. google dhimma
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 6:21:51 AM EST
Originally Posted By Star_Scream:
Moving seems to be a good idea.


no money google dhimma
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 6:41:29 AM EST
There can never be coexisting with these savages.
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 6:46:40 AM EST
Originally Posted By redpine:
...if your government allows you to arm yourself...


Asking forgiveness vs. permission....
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 6:54:36 AM EST
Too bad, should not have been in the muslim shit hole anyways, infidels need to wake the fuck up.
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 6:59:04 AM EST
They'd really be pissed if they knew what I do with it.
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 7:00:27 AM EST
Originally Posted By Texkaw:
Originally Posted By Bed_Head:
I wouldn't want to be a Christian living in a Muslim country. While *most* of the Muslims there would leave you at peace, no one, but no one can seem to control these extremist Islamists. And their Islamic governments to next to nothing to help.


Apparently the local Police intentionally did nothing to stop the perps here.


My surprised face =
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 7:01:05 AM EST
What a shame.
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 7:04:14 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/3/2009 7:09:17 AM EST by Texkaw]
Originally Posted By Bobby_the_Hun:
Too bad, should not have been in the muslim shit hole anyways, infidels need to wake the fuck up.


Many Christians in Muslim dominated areas have been there well BEFORE Islam even existed. Islam dates from 700AD. Christianity has been around since well before that. Some communities date back to the time when Christ walked the Earth.

I'd say they have a right to be there, as much as anyone else.
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 7:11:55 AM EST
Would they be upset if I used a stink pickle as a bookmark and posted the pics...
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 7:14:04 AM EST
Originally Posted By TexasDoubleTap:
My unfoulable and unproveable god says that you worship a differing unfoulable and unproveable god, this angers his ego. Bring on the fire bombs and 7.62.


Yep
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 7:16:04 AM EST
Originally Posted By Texkaw:
Originally Posted By Bobby_the_Hun:
Too bad, should not have been in the muslim shit hole anyways, infidels need to wake the fuck up.


Many Christians in Muslim dominated areas have been there well BEFORE Islam even existed. Islam dates from 700AD. Christianity has been around since well before that. Some communities date back to the time when Christ walked the Earth.

I'd say they have a right to be there, as much as anyone else.


Many indians were here before Christians came here. They got rounded and exterminated and our schools teach it as a good thing.


They were here first is a stupid argument.
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 7:19:23 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 7:23:25 AM EST
Originally Posted By Texkaw:
Originally Posted By Bobby_the_Hun:
Too bad, should not have been in the muslim shit hole anyways, infidels need to wake the fuck up.


Many Christians in Muslim dominated areas have been there well BEFORE Islam even existed. Islam dates from 700AD. Christianity has been around since well before that. Some communities date back to the time when Christ walked the Earth.

I'd say they have a right to be there, as much as anyone else.


In this instance, " Situation Awareness " failed. They may have been there for generations and they may have had the right to be there, but that right does not guarantee them to live there safely, Pakistan is largely a lawless country outside of the major cities, many wacko factions roam unimpeded. I stand by my original post.

Link Posted: 8/3/2009 7:32:42 AM EST
Originally Posted By Chaingun:
Where is this supposed defiled koran



Seems like not reading, or following it is the problem!!!!
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 8:04:50 AM EST
Originally Posted By Bobby_the_Hun:
Originally Posted By Texkaw:
Originally Posted By Bobby_the_Hun:
Too bad, should not have been in the muslim shit hole anyways, infidels need to wake the fuck up.


Many Christians in Muslim dominated areas have been there well BEFORE Islam even existed. Islam dates from 700AD. Christianity has been around since well before that. Some communities date back to the time when Christ walked the Earth.

I'd say they have a right to be there, as much as anyone else.


In this instance, " Situation Awareness " failed. They may have been there for generations and they may have had the right to be there, but that right does not guarantee them to live there safely, Pakistan is largely a lawless country outside of the major cities, many wacko factions roam unimpeded. I stand by my original post.




Agreed, but where would they go? India would be the only way out, all other borders are muslim countries. And the borders between pakistan and India are very tight because of past and current hostilities. India is mostly Hindu and Muslim anyway. Now, at least, they cold apply for aylum in the US perhaps, because of persecution. But would our Hilary-led State department let them in.
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 8:13:39 AM EST
Ah the Famed Religion of Peace

Living peacefully with them isn't an option, violence and force is all they understand.

Link Posted: 8/3/2009 8:15:46 AM EST
Originally Posted By Texkaw:
Originally Posted By Bobby_the_Hun:
Originally Posted By Texkaw:
Originally Posted By Bobby_the_Hun:
Too bad, should not have been in the muslim shit hole anyways, infidels need to wake the fuck up.


Many Christians in Muslim dominated areas have been there well BEFORE Islam even existed. Islam dates from 700AD. Christianity has been around since well before that. Some communities date back to the time when Christ walked the Earth.

I'd say they have a right to be there, as much as anyone else.


In this instance, " Situation Awareness " failed. They may have been there for generations and they may have had the right to be there, but that right does not guarantee them to live there safely, Pakistan is largely a lawless country outside of the major cities, many wacko factions roam unimpeded. I stand by my original post.




Agreed, but where would they go? India would be the only way out, all other borders are muslim countries. And the borders between pakistan and India are very tight because of past and current hostilities. India is mostly Hindu and Muslim anyway. Now, at least, they cold apply for aylum in the US perhaps, because of persecution. But would our Hilary-led State department let them in.


If it were me, I'd dress like the locals and head for a major city that supports safe havens such as the American Red Cross, UN offices ( bite my tongue ) or Embassies friendly to the USA. Once there I would ask for safe passage out of the country, but I do not know how much BS one would experience once there.
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 8:15:51 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/3/2009 8:16:21 AM EST by Star_Scream]
Originally Posted By Texkaw:


Agreed, but where would they go? India would be the only way out, all other borders are muslim countries. And the borders between pakistan and India are very tight because of past and current hostilities. India is mostly Hindu and Muslim anyway. Now, at least, they cold apply for aylum in the US perhaps, because of persecution. But would our Hilary-led State department let them in.



If they have law degrees or engineers sure. Do we really need more unskilled non english speaking labor here?

Immigration based on religion is silly. Unless it's to the vatican
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 8:21:02 AM EST
Originally Posted By Markbb:
Islam the relgion of peace pieces........


Fixed it.
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 8:23:25 AM EST
Originally Posted By jmb_nova:
What; Obama doesnt have shit to say?

amazing...


He's silently applauding them for their actions.

HH
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 9:16:30 AM EST
Obama's election and comments about Muslims have empowered them to ethnically cleanse Christians wherever they can find them.
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 9:47:45 AM EST
Originally Posted By HoustonHusker:
Originally Posted By jmb_nova:
What; Obama doesnt have shit to say?

amazing...


He's silently applauding them for their actions.

HH


Probably calling them on his Blackberry to congratulate!
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 9:59:52 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/3/2009 10:04:20 AM EST by brasidas]
This has been going on for 700+ years. Even after the conquest of the middle east by the Muslims, there were substantial Christian populations in the Caliphate (Orthodox, Nestorian, Jacobite, etc.). Then in around 1300 persecutions started and the infidels (Chrisitans, Jews and Zorastrians) were forced to convert or be killed. The process has continued since then. This war didn't start on 9/11/01.

The cultural relativists will point out that Christians also had an episode of religous bigotry that started at about the same time, but it was not on the same scale and, of course, it eventually ended.

Link Posted: 8/3/2009 10:02:18 AM EST
Originally Posted By peekay:
Religion of peace strikes again!


Nailed it!!

Link Posted: 8/3/2009 12:38:28 PM EST
Originally Posted By 134thSIGNAL:
Originally Posted By peekay:
Religion of peace strikes again!


Nailed it!!



Qur'an 2:191
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 12:42:29 PM EST
Same thing will be happening in Western Europe in the next 20 years.

Mark it down.
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 1:05:44 PM EST
Originally Posted By JHMC79:
Same thing will be happening in Western Europe in the next 20 years.

Mark it down.


Who will the next Charles Martel (Charles the Hammer) be?
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 1:15:42 PM EST
Allah seems to need lots of help these days. Perhaps he is sick or on vacation?
Link Posted: 8/3/2009 1:18:23 PM EST
Originally Posted By Texkaw:
Looks like tolerance for Muslims is a one-way street.




and eight lanes wide.
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