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Posted: 12/16/2016 12:21:52 PM EDT
Cnn and drudge http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/16/politics/chinese-warship-underwater-drone-stolen/index.html

100 Miles off Subi 
"water to pick up two underwater drones. At that point a Chinese naval ship that had been shadowing the Bowditch put a small boat into the water. That small boat came up alongside and the Chinese crew took one of the drones."
From the above article

And now it appears the "science mission" may have been peking at what the Chinese are up to 
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/11/asia/philippines-china-south-china-sea-hague-ruling/index.html

said that China could begin construction work on Scarborough Shoal -- an outcrop it currently controls 100 miles from the Philippines and 500 miles from China -- or set up an air defense zone over the South China Sea. 

Scarborough Shoal
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:24:03 PM EDT
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Thanks Obama.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:27:12 PM EDT
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100 miles out of Subic?

A small unannounced vessel approaching?

Theft?

This should have never happened for one.

Second, this should have ended with either warning gunfire or dead Chinese.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:29:04 PM EDT
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Are we sure it wasn't the Russians?
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:30:18 PM EDT
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oh noes.  Now the Russians and Chinese. 


If Obama had a Navy.  LOL
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:30:50 PM EDT
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Can you draw a red line in the water? 
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:31:05 PM EDT
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The USNS Bowditch is an essentailly unarmed research ship with remote submersibles. Nothing new here except for the Chinese theft.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:31:12 PM EDT
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Back when our govt had balls there would have been some dead Chinese sailors and a sunk boat.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:31:47 PM EDT
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If Obama had a Navy.  LOL
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The most shameful act came from Iran.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:32:22 PM EDT
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Although it's unclear what the motivation was for the Chinese, the seizing of
the drone comes on the heels of other provocative incidents that have
happened since President-elect Donald Trump received a congratulatory call with Taiwan's President, a violation of the US's agreement with China's "One China policy". China publicly voiced their disapproval of that incident and contacted the White House at the time.
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Trumps Fault
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:32:40 PM EDT
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Obama will apologize and bow 
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:32:55 PM EDT
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Essentially unarmed, or actually unarmed?

No guns onboard, not even some machine guns?  No capability for defense of ship or crew?

Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:33:08 PM EDT
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And Chinese theft isn't exactly a new thing either.

Guess since the Clintons aren't going to be in office to sell them more secrets they're going to have to settle for stealing things the old fashioned way.

Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:33:27 PM EDT
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Lol.

Navy fail.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:33:59 PM EDT
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Essentially unarmed, or actually unarmed?

No guns onboard, not even some machine guns?  No capability for defense of ship or crew?
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small arms
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:35:03 PM EDT
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Just a few more days....
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:35:07 PM EDT
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Lol.

Navy fail.
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It's an unarmed oceanographic vessel.

Bunch of scientists aren't going to do much, even against Chinese fisherman.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:35:59 PM EDT
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CIA insiders are saying that the Russians hacked the underwater drone.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:36:37 PM EDT
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And Chinese theft isn't exactly a new thing either.

Guess since the Clintons aren't going to be in office to sell them more secrets they're going to have to settle for stealing things the old fashioned way.
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lulz
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:37:06 PM EDT
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It's an unarmed oceanographic vessel.

Bunch of scientists aren't going to do much, even against Chinese fisherman.
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Right.  And every single satellite the USAF launches is to observe climate change.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:37:29 PM EDT
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Does "underwater drone"  = ROV?
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:37:30 PM EDT
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What did you expect?

Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:38:39 PM EDT
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I'm going to expect many of these types of "tests" from the Chicoms in the near future. At least until someone gets blown out of the water. Then they'll get indignant and all pissy.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:39:20 PM EDT
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100 miles out of Subic?

A small unannounced vessel approaching?

Theft?

This should have never happened for one.

Second, this should have ended with either warning gunfire or dead Chinese.
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White hull.  No guns.

Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:39:29 PM EDT
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when are they gonna start implementing self destructing drones?
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:42:01 PM EDT
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White hull.  No guns.
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Is that a rule? (I know next to nothing about naval subjects.)
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:44:10 PM EDT
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Somebody was sure slow on the joystick...DIVE! DIVE! DIVE!
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:51:42 PM EDT
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On the positive side we will be able to buy cheap knockoff drones in about 30 days.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:52:30 PM EDT
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Is that a rule? (I know next to nothing about naval subjects.)
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White hull.  No guns.
Is that a rule? (I know next to nothing about naval subjects.)


I believe it indicates a non-aggressive ship, so research vessels, coast guard, hospital ships, etc.  I guess it's incorrect to say "no guns" because the CG will be armed.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:52:35 PM EDT
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Is that US Navy custom? USCG has more than a few boats with 20-40mm cannon, and their cutters are white, icebreakers are red, IIRC

ETA- 22 seconds.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:55:05 PM EDT
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It's an unarmed oceanographic vessel.

Bunch of scientists aren't going to do much, even against Chinese fisherman.
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yep, not a Roman among them.............

Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:55:57 PM EDT
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Civilian contract crew, maybe a small MILDET for secure comms and security. But, above is correct; designated non-combatent. 
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:56:16 PM EDT
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Cg has the cool racing stripe though...
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 1:00:36 PM EDT
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We should now start taking their shit - like those fully laden cargo ships they keep sending out.
Keep the goods, sell the ships.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 1:02:54 PM EDT
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Ha! Those little fuckers just rode up and stole the fucking submersible like a unchained bicycle in front of walmart. .
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 1:05:08 PM EDT
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SO when can i buy one on Harbor Freight?
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 1:22:15 PM EDT
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Right.  And every single satellite the USAF launches is to observe climate change.
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It's an unarmed oceanographic vessel.

Bunch of scientists aren't going to do much, even against Chinese fisherman.


Right.  And every single satellite the USAF launches is to observe climate change.


lol not everything is a conspiracy.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 1:35:17 PM EDT
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Breaking: The FBI released a statement saying that the Chinese Navy is innocent.  The FBI has interviewed the Chinese crew, who said they don't recall catching any "dlone". 
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 1:43:42 PM EDT
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<img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle> yep, not a Roman among them.............

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXh1tW16V-8
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You beat me by about an hour.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 1:44:47 PM EDT
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Obama's military. Pathetic.

I can't wait until Trump makes the military great again
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 1:45:22 PM EDT
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We sold them the tech we just used this as a cover story of it being captured.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 1:56:10 PM EDT
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So now ROV's are being called underwater drones? Never heard of that term before.
It must be a millennial thing.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 2:03:30 PM EDT
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Part of me thinks we were spying an the Chinese called our bluff.  I mean we did use a drill ship to steal a submarine. 
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 2:03:41 PM EDT
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Obungo is on the case. Just heard on FOX news that the US is issuing a formal diplomatic complaint.

You know the Chinese are shitting their pants now!
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 2:06:28 PM EDT
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Part of me thinks we were spying an the Chinese called our bluff.  I mean we did use a drill ship to steal a submarine. 
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From the Chinese. Interesting.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 2:07:31 PM EDT
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I wouldn't call chinese theft of tech a new thing...
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 2:07:48 PM EDT
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Obama's military. Pathetic.

I can't wait until Trump makes the military great again
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LOL
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 2:09:48 PM EDT
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From the Chinese. Interesting.
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If you are refering to the sub Im talking about the glomar explorer which raised part of a sunken soviet sub.  Actully happened.  Howard Huges compny helped the CIA and Navy.  As far as scale goes the Chinese are still playing childs games with stealing 
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Can you draw a red line in the water? <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_freak.gif border=0 align=middle>
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You can with blood ! ! !



Link Posted: 12/16/2016 2:17:01 PM EDT
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Lots going on lately out there lately, weapons upgrades in S. China sea and http://www.janes.com/article/66206/chinese-navy-commissions-two-more-jiangdao-class-corvettes
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 2:21:30 PM EDT
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If you are refering to the sub Im talking about the glomar explorer which raised part of a sunken soviet sub.  Actully happened.  Howard Huges compny helped the CIA and Navy.  As far as scale goes the Chinese are still playing childs games with stealing 
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If we had grabbed K-129 while it was operating and not dead on the seafloor I could see your point. Salvage laws and such, the issue with K-129 was political.
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