Chime in ONLY if your wrote your Congressmen and signed the Petition against H.R. 1022!!!

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Centurian77

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Posted: 2/26/2007 6:45:00 PM EST

[Last Edit: 2/26/2007 6:48:22 PM EST by Centurian77]

H.R. 1022 is still in judiciary committee. IF it gets onto the floor then it has a very good chance of becoming law. Please chime in if you have written all your congressmen by use of FORMAL addressed letter, E-mail, and signed the Petition against H.R. 1022.

IF not then do so here but please don't chime in till complete:

www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/409898348

www.capwiz.com/nra/dbq/officials/

Keep this thread going!!! The Alternative is long road marches, bad food, low ammo, and months of not sleeping on good beds while being pinned down in the mountains fighting for our rights! I wish I was kidding on this.

C77

BigRoost

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Posted: 2/26/2007 6:49:30 PM EST

[Last Edit: 2/26/2007 7:02:55 PM EST by BigRoost]

I did. Only one of my Congressmen has written me back (John Linder). He is good folks, me thinks:

Dear Mr. XXXXX:

Thank you for contacting me to express your views about H.R. 1022, the "Assault Weapons Ban and Law Enforcement Protection Act of 2007." I appreciate your taking the time to share your thoughts with me.

In 1993, Congress enacted a statutory ban on manufacturing and purchasing certain semi-automatic firearms in the United States. The prohibition on semi-automatic firearms, however, expired on September 13, 2004. You should know that I opposeed the assault weapons ban in 1993.

Introduced by Representative Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY), H.R. 1022 would re-authorize the 1993 assault weapons ban for another ten years. While numerous legislative proposals have been introduced to either re-authorize a 10-year ban or make permanent the ban on purchasing and manufacturing certain semi-automatic firearms, I will not support any of them if they come to the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives. America is already overburdened by thousands of gun laws in this country, most of which are ineffective or loosely enforced. In fact, according to a study conducted by the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics, while legislatures, including Congress, had enacted these laws under the guise of "preventing" the illegal distribution of firearms, 80 percent of criminals who possessed a firearm stated that they obtained that firearm through family, friends, a street buy, or an illegal source. In other words, gun control laws don't work very well at all.

Quite frankly, the assault weapons ban did little to prevent criminals from illegally obtaining firearms. As such, rather than encroaching on the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding American citizens, we should be looking to enact laws that effectively deal with crime in the United States.

Thank you again for contacting me. Please do not hesitate to call on me if I may be of assistance in the future.

Sincerely,

John Linder
Member of Congress

Most people can't think, most of the remainder won't think, the small fraction who do think mostly can't do it very well. -Heinlein

I don't really want to take on the horde of the undead with a probably in my pocket... Another_Dude

Centurian77 Joined Aug 2006 Posts 517 EE Offline USA	Posted: 2/26/2007 6:51:30 PM EST Did you also sign the petition? You don't have to put your name down but at least put down your state, the reason you disagree, and why! That petition is growing about 100 new names every hour! C77

BigRoost Why is there a piano on my cake? Joined Oct 2005 Posts 730 EE Offline GA, USA	Posted: 2/26/2007 6:54:01 PM EST Yes, I did.
	Most people can't think, most of the remainder won't think, the small fraction who do think mostly can't do it very well. -Heinlein I don't really want to take on the horde of the undead with a probably in my pocket... Another_Dude

Centurian77 Joined Aug 2006 Posts 519 EE Offline USA	Posted: 2/26/2007 6:57:27 PM EST We have a chance to be heard now folks. If this hits the floor it will be a month from now when you won't be able to buy uppers, won't be able to buy magazines, won't be able to purchase any rifle or pistol capable of holding more than six rounds. C

pvc1984 Member Joined Feb 2007 Posts 354 EE Offline NY, USA	Posted: 2/26/2007 6:57:55 PM EST I've done it twice already within the last two weeks. Senator Klinton Senator Schumer Attorney General Cuomo Governor Spitzer Representative Kuhl As far as I'm concerned, it's a waste of my time. My representatives already have their minds made up and an agenda to complete. I'm not writing them anymore.

NonConformist Does not play well with others! Joined Sep 2004 Posts 9452 EE Offline FL, USA	Posted: 2/26/2007 6:58:44 PM EST Im still waiting for a reply form my so called 'Representative', its only been a week
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thedoctors308 Free fight4yourrights!!! Joined Nov 2004 Posts 13793 EE Offline PA, USA	Posted: 2/26/2007 7:00:16 PM EST
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Essayons Member Joined Oct 2004 Posts 2140 EE Offline WA, USA	Posted: 2/26/2007 7:00:27 PM EST Signed petition and wrote WA delegation (House and Senate) in opposition.

BigRoost

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Posted: 2/26/2007 7:00:54 PM EST

Originally Posted By pvc1984:
I've done it twice already within the last two weeks.

Senator Klinton
Senator Schumer
Attorney General Cuomo
Governor Spitzer
Representative Kuhl

As far as I'm concerned, it's a waste of my time. My representatives already have their minds made up and an agenda to complete. I'm not writing them anymore.

I'm truly sorry for you, having to send emails on 2A issues to that group of assholes. Well, Klinton, Schumer and Cuomo, anyway. The others I don't know anything about.

Most people can't think, most of the remainder won't think, the small fraction who do think mostly can't do it very well. -Heinlein

I don't really want to take on the horde of the undead with a probably in my pocket... Another_Dude

Centurian77 Joined Aug 2006 Posts 521 EE Offline USA	Posted: 2/26/2007 7:03:22 PM EST [Last Edit: 2/26/2007 7:04:00 PM EST by Centurian77] I always write the liberals as well- kindly remind them that 80 million gun owners are in this country, many of which are military, law enforcement, and government. If they want us to be enemies then that is their decision. C

Ryan1021 Joined Sep 2005 Posts 947 EE Offline OH, USA	Posted: 2/26/2007 7:04:37 PM EST I just signed the petition and I have written my reps.

DrFrige Gone to the crapper... Joined Jan 2001 Posts 15826 EE Offline USA	Posted: 2/26/2007 7:06:59 PM EST Sent letters to my reps and didnt hear back. But he is a pro gun rep so I expect a letter of agreement. Oh and I signed the petition
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medicmandan Member Joined Jun 2002 Posts 10423 EE Offline UT, USA	Posted: 2/26/2007 7:11:21 PM EST Done to both senators and my rep. Sent one to the judiciary committee as well. Haven't heard back yet.
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Gator Member Joined Nov 2000 Posts 2516 EE Offline NY, USA	Posted: 2/26/2007 7:11:26 PM EST Isn't it a premature to send to our Senators? Not that it will do any good with my senators.

DrFrige

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Posted: 2/26/2007 7:13:26 PM EST

Originally Posted By Centurian77:
H.R. 1022 is still in judiciary committee. IF it gets onto the floor then it has a very good chance of becoming law. )]

You know with all the talk this last week on HR1022, I have to disagree with that statement.

Nancy Pelosi, although a socialist, is NO dummy. She knows that they got in there by the skin of their teeth and any gun legislation will knock the dems off the shaky perch on where they sit. Nope. I dont think there will be any thing THAT devastating to the gun owners AT LEAST until 2008 IF and that is a big "IF" they get the white house.

Remember when Clinton lost the house in 94 he blamed the NRA for it. He KNOWS that cost him.

Also remember that 1022 has NO COSPONSORS... they dont want to touch that with a 10 foot pole.

Although... I may be wrong so, I wrote my congressman anyway

Just remember, In the end all that is left of a man is his honor... doesnt matter how much money he has made or women he has been with. His name is only as good as his word.

RckClimber Joined Jul 2006 Posts 909 EE Offline UT, USA	Posted: 2/26/2007 7:20:10 PM EST Did both. Haven't heard back from anyone yet, and it's been almost a week.

3rdpig Member Joined Sep 2004 Posts 1663 EE Offline AZ, USA	Posted: 2/26/2007 7:23:46 PM EST Done days ago, but I doubt that even if it makes it out of committee that it will become law. Not this time. Possible I suppose, but not probable. They don't have the votes to overcome a filibuster and don't have a friend in the White House. Still best to write, let them know that we're not happy.

spectre556 Member Joined Apr 2005 Posts 467 EE Offline KS, USA	Posted: 2/26/2007 7:25:39 PM EST I did both, and have yet to hear from my rep. Although I have now been placed on some mailing list to boycott Exxon and sign ther petition?
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Currahee STANDS ALONE! Joined Jul 2004 Posts 4120 EE Offline MS, USA	Posted: 2/26/2007 7:26:07 PM EST Did all of the above. You need to send it to all the people you know as well (odly enough there are @A friends that don't surf ARFCOM 10 hours a day )
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Centurian77 Joined Aug 2006 Posts 524 EE Offline USA	Posted: 2/26/2007 7:29:22 PM EST [Last Edit: 2/26/2007 7:29:54 PM EST by Centurian77] Don't count on the Liberals to suddenly start fucking thinking! Send letters, write e-mails, load magazines until further notice!! That is your orders! C

GA-Dawg Evian spells naïve backwards Joined Mar 2005 Posts 2045 EE Offline GA, USA	Posted: 2/26/2007 7:31:21 PM EST [Last Edit: 2/26/2007 7:32:23 PM EST by GA-Dawg] Anyone see signature 5,360? "AR-15.COMSUCKSMYASS EATDOGSHITEDAVILA" Edit to add...I called and signed petition.
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inkaybee Joined Aug 2001 Posts 1558 EE Offline USA	Posted: 2/26/2007 7:32:37 PM EST Done Molon labe

NikolausXX Joined Jan 2005 Posts 185 EE Offline NE, USA	Posted: 2/26/2007 7:33:17 PM EST wrote my congressman, both senators, and george bush (for future veto) also signed the online petition.

M4MikelA3 Joined Oct 2004 Posts 328 EE Offline OK, USA	Posted: 2/26/2007 7:33:26 PM EST I wrote my Congressional rep last week and I am supposed to get a written response back from him by snail mail. I'll post it when I do. Signed the petition(though I don't like petitions) yesterday.

dumbyhotshot Joined Dec 2005 Posts 321 EE Offline MT, USA	Posted: 2/26/2007 7:46:39 PM EST both done

spool32 Joined Jan 2007 Posts 3 EE Offline AZ, USA	Posted: 2/26/2007 7:50:39 PM EST I've done all.. I hope i dont get spam tho! I dont think McCain is going to even read mine.. I really cant see how I can vote for him after he came out against Roe Vs. Wade now anyway. When its Hilary Clinton against John Mc Cain for office of President, I think they need to take our guns away so we dont kill ourselves.

Centurian77 Joined Aug 2006 Posts 529 EE Offline USA	Posted: 2/26/2007 8:13:30 PM EST So far about 5500 people signed!!! Keep it going!!! C

Snowdiver Member Joined Jan 2007 Posts 100 EE Offline CA, USA	Posted: 2/26/2007 8:20:08 PM EST Did both.

amendment Joined Jan 2005 Posts 537 EE Offline MA, USA	Posted: 2/26/2007 8:34:05 PM EST Well i signed the petition, as far as writing my elected officials.......i live in the communistwealth of assachusetts. Writting your elected officials here really does no good. They are sure they know whats best for me.

Conspiro-Agnew OBEY! Joined Nov 2003 Posts 334 EE Offline WA, USA	Posted: 2/26/2007 9:39:00 PM EST done both, but the petition needs to reach far and wide outside of Arfcom. At the rate people are signing, it will take 711 days to hit a million...

Conspiro-Agnew OBEY! Joined Nov 2003 Posts 335 EE Offline WA, USA	Posted: 2/27/2007 5:23:16 AM EST bump for signing!

DV8 Time Magazine's Man of the Year Joined Dec 2004 Posts 8943 EE Offline FL, USA	Posted: 2/27/2007 5:25:10 AM EST done both...no reply. My congress critter usually replies via USPS.
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CAR-10 Joined Jul 2003 Posts 2733 EE Offline WA, USA	Posted: 2/27/2007 5:29:45 AM EST I wrote Kathy McMorris a week ago. One e-mail and a letter to each of her offices. I haven't heard anything back.
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vrwc0915 Member Joined Feb 2006 Posts 2769 EE Offline USA	Posted: 2/27/2007 5:30:56 AM EST both
	Originally Posted By PromptCritical: I am Jack's complete lack of give-a-shit...

rob78

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Posted: 2/27/2007 5:54:45 AM EST

I wrote John Tanner a little over a week ago. I haven't heard back yet.

The locals around here have caught wind of this bill and there's been some foot stomping.

Tanner's a Democrat, a conservative democrat, but a democrat nonetheless. My guess is he's going to wait and side with his "buddies" if there isn't enough of an outcry about this.

He's got so many pork projects running right now, he's going to need the support of his fellow dims if he hopes to get any special appropriations.

I've been talking with my buddy at the local gunstore about printing up some fliers describing HR1022 and what means to all gun owners (for example mention that the bill outlaws semiauto shotguns---that'll get 'em pissed). I'm supposed to call him today when I leave the office...

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aaron_fsp

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Posted: 2/27/2007 6:07:13 AM EST

[Last Edit: 2/27/2007 6:11:01 AM EST by aaron_fsp]

Keep this thread going!!! The Alternative is long road marches, bad food, low ammo, and months of not sleeping on good beds while being pinned down in the mountains fighting for our rights! I wish I was kidding on this.

Most people are pushovers and wouldnt fight, but the minority who
make a stand would unleash one hell of a mess. I don't think they
realize how serious the situation is in this country with individuals
who are sick and tired of being pushed around by a bunch of politicians
in DC.

For the land of the free, its ironic that our capitol has so many
unconstitutional firearms laws.

SkyCatII Member Joined Jan 2005 Posts 1501 EE Offline MI, USA	Posted: 2/27/2007 6:14:04 AM EST I've done both. So far I haven't received a reply from my congress critter (It may be because it was mailed, and I am away at school. I won't get it until I go home then). I wish that I Fred Upton's stance. I believe he has a "B" rating, but I don't know what exactly that means.
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HKgnnr Anger Management Dropout Joined Nov 2000 Posts 1952 EE Offline NY, USA	Posted: 2/27/2007 6:15:43 AM EST Done - both! Only takes a few minutes fellas.
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MTUSA Member Joined Oct 2002 Posts 3199 EE Offline CA, USA	Posted: 2/27/2007 6:27:58 AM EST Emailed Radanovich (R-CA) last Friday. I am expecting a yes vote. His last email to me was very pro 2A. Hopefully he will not flip flop. Signed petition too. Remember the 20 million lawbreakers marching for amnesty! They won...

geeze Joined Mar 2005 Posts 426 EE Offline AZ, USA	Posted: 2/27/2007 6:29:48 AM EST I don't sign petition sites that add no value. I did write to my representatives.

geezhound Member Joined Dec 2001 Posts 735 EE Offline PA, USA	Posted: 2/27/2007 6:32:18 AM EST Petition signed. Wrote and emailed Chris Carney(D-PA). Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised by my response.
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Bladeswitcher

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Posted: 2/27/2007 6:35:12 AM EST

[Last Edit: 2/27/2007 6:36:30 AM EST by Bladeswitcher]

I have written my rep and senators and the judiciary committee. I've also done the petition thing. I've also sent money to the NRA-ILA.

I also called my Congressman's office in Washington. I insisted on talking to his staffer that deals with gun control issues rather than just getting some intern or flunky aide. My Congressman is a conservative Democrat (WAY strong on defense/solid on guns). Here's what I heard:

This senior staffer has accompanied the congressman to caucus meetings with Speaker Pelosi. The Speaker says that she does not have the stomach for culturally devisive issues at this point and is no mood to bring up major gun control legislation. Essentially he said what I have been saying in these various HB1022 threads:

• Pelosi doesn't want to be a one-term speaker
• Many of the new Democrats that produced the majority come from conservative districts and they cannot support gun control measures.

With that said, he added that it's possible some of the gun control bills could move in the house but they stand no chance in the Senate where it takes 60 votes to close debate and bring something to a vote.

He didn't say this but I'll add that Lieberman is threatening to switch parties. If that happens the tie breaking vote in the Senate goes to Dick Cheney.

Bottom line: WHile HB 1022 bears watching, it is not a major concern. If you want to get involved, focus your effort on encouraging the passage of pro-gun legislation in Congress and in your respective statehouses.

So, write your Congressman but write about guns control laws in a general sense. Don't elevate 1022 to an importance it doesn't deserve. Also, make sure your membership in the NRA is paid up. But NRA dues don't support political activity so contribute to the ILA as well.

Other than that, go shooting. Enjoy this pasttime. Take a non-gunner shooting with you. Relax.

shootemup Member Joined Mar 2003 Posts 3829 EE Offline CO, USA	Posted: 2/27/2007 6:35:20 AM EST Wrote my local reps. and signed the petition
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Stardust Joined Jan 2005 Posts 29 EE Offline NJ, USA	Posted: 2/27/2007 6:44:47 AM EST Done, NJ is now trying to pass a one gun a month limit also, we have 2) fights on our plate.

scatterbrains Member Joined Jul 2005 Posts 305 EE Offline NJ, USA	Posted: 2/27/2007 6:45:01 AM EST Wrote all my reps, paper, email, and tried to call. will be writing reps every month know. Wrote all local and state elected officials also. Also wrote to judiciary committee to express my concern. I also signed the petition too. Donated to NRA, and will be joining GOA next week when i get paid.

I-LUV-AR15s Joined Aug 2004 Posts 373 EE Offline OR, USA	Posted: 2/27/2007 6:53:44 AM EST Petition signed.

Boomer8450 Flaming Mimes Joined Aug 2006 Posts 1284 EE Offline CO, USA	Posted: 2/27/2007 7:05:14 AM EST Done and done. Don't forget to write Pelosie and remind her that she swore no new gun control while campaigning. She can prove she has some honor and integrity, or she can prove the her word has no value.
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DrFrige

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Posted: 2/27/2007 7:08:55 AM EST

Originally Posted By GA-Dawg:
Anyone see signature 5,360?

"AR-15.COMSUCKSMYASS EATDOGSHITEDAVILA"

Edit to add...I called and signed petition.

Obviously the asshat who wrote that knows who runs the show and must have been banned over here and harbors nasty feelings. What amazes me is that this guy must own AR's and therefore just ruins the cause at hand.

So, if the dimwit who posted that is reading this... good going... just made our side look like a bunch of immature idiots.

Hope you are proud of yourself.

Just remember, In the end all that is left of a man is his honor... doesnt matter how much money he has made or women he has been with. His name is only as good as his word.

FredZiffle Member Joined Oct 2006 Posts 734 EE Offline VA, USA	Posted: 2/27/2007 7:10:15 AM EST Done. fred
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pyro6988 How do you like my fire arm? Joined Sep 2004 Posts 8409 EE Offline PA, USA	Posted: 2/27/2007 7:11:18 AM EST done
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