User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
|
Posted: 7/26/2013 10:02:54 AM EDT
[#1]
Secret courts just need to disappear.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/26/2013 10:04:22 AM EDT
[#2]
Remember to vote Republican, because they make great Supreme Court appointments.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/26/2013 10:07:06 AM EDT
[#3]
Damn 01ers...
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/26/2013 10:07:31 AM EDT
[#4]
John Roberts murdered my puppy.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/26/2013 10:08:20 AM EDT
[#5]
Another of Dubya's much maligned and misunderstood masterstrokes of genius.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/26/2013 10:09:44 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Remember to vote Republican, because they make great Supreme Court appointments. I remember being told that Roberts upholding Obamacare was some kind of grand strategy-are you saying that's not the case??? |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/26/2013 10:13:27 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I remember being told that Roberts upholding Obamacare was some kind of grand strategy-are you saying that's not the case??? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Remember to vote Republican, because they make great Supreme Court appointments. I remember being told that Roberts upholding Obamacare was some kind of grand strategy-are you saying that's not the case??? Chess. Not checkers. 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/26/2013 10:14:02 AM EDT
[#8]
 |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/26/2013 10:16:05 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I remember being told that Roberts upholding Obamacare was some kind of grand strategy-are you saying that's not the case??? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Remember to vote Republican, because they make great Supreme Court appointments. I remember being told that Roberts upholding Obamacare was some kind of grand strategy-are you saying that's not the case??? I think he may actually believe that it's his duty as Chief Justice to assume that all laws are constitutional and then re-interpret them until he can support that conclusion. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/26/2013 1:07:37 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Chess. Not checkers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Remember to vote Republican, because they make great Supreme Court appointments. I remember being told that Roberts upholding Obamacare was some kind of grand strategy-are you saying that's not the case??? Chess. Not checkers. My bad. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/26/2013 2:06:01 PM EDT
[#11]
He's a fucking lunatic.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/26/2013 2:28:57 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
He's a fucking lunatic. Either he is a loon or he knew this would come out eventually, and MAYBE take out Obamacare, once the whole truth is seen. If people find out that a random facebook post of them smoking the only cigarette of their lives will suddenly be seen by the "minders" and double their insurance rate in perpetuity.... Or if they by too much red meat, or salty foods with their debit card and the "minders" see that does not match with your government doctor's orders...... and you get fined or your rates go up.... Or when your GPS car insurance tracker shows that you drive too fast, that you get tickets AND your health insurance rates get doubled, automatically.... Well, all the support that is left from the people who actually PAY FUCKING TAXES TO SUPPORT THE DAMN THING.....might re-think the whole thing. ETA: Either way Roberts is, I hope that my hypothetical holds, and that people wake up and realize they have actually thrown their lives away for "free healthcare". |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/26/2013 2:32:08 PM EDT
[#13]
Not surprising he is a Bush pick and Bush was the one that opened up Pandora's box on spying on citizens.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/26/2013 2:33:07 PM EDT
[#14]
He would know about the hidden hand because it's hidden up his ass before.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/26/2013 6:51:56 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I think he may actually believe that it's his duty as Chief Justice to assume that all laws are constitutional and then re-interpret them until he can support that conclusion. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Remember to vote Republican, because they make great Supreme Court appointments. I remember being told that Roberts upholding Obamacare was some kind of grand strategy-are you saying that's not the case??? I think he may actually believe that it's his duty as Chief Justice to assume that all laws are constitutional and then re-interpret them until he can support that conclusion. ...if that's really the case....
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/26/2013 7:14:05 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I think he may actually believe that it's his duty as Chief Justice to assume that all laws are constitutional and then re-interpret them until he can support that conclusion. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Remember to vote Republican, because they make great Supreme Court appointments. I remember being told that Roberts upholding Obamacare was some kind of grand strategy-are you saying that's not the case??? I think he may actually believe that it's his duty as Chief Justice to assume that all laws are constitutional and then re-interpret them until he can support that conclusion. 
Who has the power to impeach a sitting Justice? |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/26/2013 7:25:38 PM EDT
[#17]
Damn, you guys should hit the library. The NSA and agency that proceeded it were conducting counter espionage when your dad was in your grampy's ball sack. ever send a coded telegram, well they read it before the fucking New Deal.
Church cut their balls off, before that they had practically unlimited power. Remember the Liberty (you know the jew hater's conspiracy boat), know who ran that? All 3 branches are involved with the FISC. I haven't see a day time lawyer with a 800 number yet on FSA tv. Like asbestos exposure, call 1 800 hurtline to get your NSA settlement. In other news the CIA still spies and overthrows governments. news at 11. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/26/2013 7:28:20 PM EDT
[#18]
The hidden hand is a tax.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/26/2013 7:56:20 PM EDT
[#19]
Wasn't it revealed that first class mail has been under surveillance for decades? Saw something about it on the news a few weeks ago.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/26/2013 7:58:50 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Chess. Not checkers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Remember to vote Republican, because they make great Supreme Court appointments. I remember being told that Roberts upholding Obamacare was some kind of grand strategy-are you saying that's not the case??? Chess. Not checkers. LOL, That's exactly what I was going to post! 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/26/2013 8:01:30 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Wasn't it revealed that first class mail has been under surveillance for decades? Saw something about it on the news a few weeks ago. Yep part of the run up to church. But I think it is bush and Obama anyway. NSA is tame these days. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/26/2013 8:01:31 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Wasn't it revealed that first class mail has been under surveillance for decades? Saw something about it on the news a few weeks ago. All mail is photographed and data mined. Been that way for years now. You just heard about it a few weeks ago.......... |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/26/2013 8:03:51 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
All mail is photographed and data mined. Been that way for years now. You just heard about it a few weeks ago.......... Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Wasn't it revealed that first class mail has been under surveillance for decades? Saw something about it on the news a few weeks ago. All mail is photographed and data mined. Been that way for years now. You just heard about it a few weeks ago.......... Decades back when your grandpa liked Ike mail was intercepted on large scale. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/26/2013 8:13:28 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Yep part of the run up to church. But I think it is bush and Obama anyway. NSA is tame these days. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Wasn't it revealed that first class mail has been under surveillance for decades? Saw something about it on the news a few weeks ago. Yep part of the run up to church. But I think it is bush and Obama anyway. NSA is tame these days. I guess we should be thankful?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/26/2013 9:10:49 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Not surprising he is a Bush pick and Bush was the one that opened up Pandora's box on spying on citizens. 
Which Bush was in power in 1938 again? |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/26/2013 10:13:24 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Secret courts just need to disappear. Give me the better option. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/26/2013 10:19:10 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Give me the better option. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Secret courts just need to disappear. Give me the better option. Open courts. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/26/2013 10:22:17 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Open courts. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Secret courts just need to disappear. Give me the better option. Open courts. So, foreign agent X or AMCIT Y associated with a foreign government should be made aware that the .gov is interested in monitoring his communications? |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/26/2013 10:53:00 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Remember to vote Republican, because they make great Supreme Court appointments. 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/26/2013 10:55:22 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Give me the better option. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Secret courts just need to disappear. Give me the better option. Cause secret courts work so well. 
The government can't stop terrorism, period. They can destroy what shred of civil liberties we once had, but it won't do dick-all when it comes to stopping threats to America. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/26/2013 11:21:03 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Cause secret courts work so well. http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2013/04/16/1226621/430212-boston-bomb.gif The government can't stop terrorism, period. They can destroy what shred of civil liberties we once had, but it won't do dick-all when it comes to stopping threats to America. The key to curtailing terrorism is good intel and going after suspected terrorists. 99% of every American is not a terrorist. TSA is not stopping terrorism by making you take off your shoes and hats and feeling up your daughters and wives. Nor is collecting every call that every American makes or texts. We need to be taking some lessons from Mossad and Israel. Maybe even the KGB. Seems some terrorists went after some Russians one time and KGB went and fucked them up so badly, it stopped immediately. We're talking amputations with a chainsaw type of fucked up. Time to go medieval on their asses. I've been preaching this since the mid 1980's. We need to stop going on apology tours and go on Tango hunting tours. No bag limit.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/27/2013 4:56:32 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
The key to curtailing terrorism is good intel and going after suspected terrorists. 99% of every American is not a terrorist. TSA is not stopping terrorism by making you take off your shoes and hats and feeling up your daughters and wives. Nor is collecting every call that every American makes or texts. We need to be taking some lessons from Mossad and Israel. Maybe even the KGB. Seems some terrorists went after some Russians one time and KGB went and fucked them up so badly, it stopped immediately. We're talking amputations with a chainsaw type of fucked up. Time to go medieval on their asses. I've been preaching this since the mid 1980's. We need to stop going on apology tours and go on Tango hunting tours. No bag limit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Cause secret courts work so well. http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2013/04/16/1226621/430212-boston-bomb.gif The government can't stop terrorism, period. They can destroy what shred of civil liberties we once had, but it won't do dick-all when it comes to stopping threats to America. The key to curtailing terrorism is good intel and going after suspected terrorists. 99% of every American is not a terrorist. TSA is not stopping terrorism by making you take off your shoes and hats and feeling up your daughters and wives. Nor is collecting every call that every American makes or texts. We need to be taking some lessons from Mossad and Israel. Maybe even the KGB. Seems some terrorists went after some Russians one time and KGB went and fucked them up so badly, it stopped immediately. We're talking amputations with a chainsaw type of fucked up. Time to go medieval on their asses. I've been preaching this since the mid 1980's. We need to stop going on apology tours and go on Tango hunting tours. No bag limit. I don't necessarily agree with the chainsaw portion of your post, but THIS. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/27/2013 5:01:30 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Chess. Not checkers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Remember to vote Republican, because they make great Supreme Court appointments. I remember being told that Roberts upholding Obamacare was some kind of grand strategy-are you saying that's not the case??? Chess. Not checkers. Well in that case .... Checkmate. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/27/2013 5:06:19 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Secret courts just need to disappear. This |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/27/2013 5:32:43 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Who has the power to impeach a sitting Justice? The House of Representatives. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/27/2013 5:52:22 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I don't necessarily agree with the chainsaw portion of your post, but THIS. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Cause secret courts work so well. http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2013/04/16/1226621/430212-boston-bomb.gif The government can't stop terrorism, period. They can destroy what shred of civil liberties we once had, but it won't do dick-all when it comes to stopping threats to America. The key to curtailing terrorism is good intel and going after suspected terrorists. 99% of every American is not a terrorist. TSA is not stopping terrorism by making you take off your shoes and hats and feeling up your daughters and wives. Nor is collecting every call that every American makes or texts. We need to be taking some lessons from Mossad and Israel. Maybe even the KGB. Seems some terrorists went after some Russians one time and KGB went and fucked them up so badly, it stopped immediately. We're talking amputations with a chainsaw type of fucked up. Time to go medieval on their asses. I've been preaching this since the mid 1980's. We need to stop going on apology tours and go on Tango hunting tours. No bag limit. I don't necessarily agree with the chainsaw portion of your post, but THIS. And that there is the problem, you are operating under the premise that those that use terrorism as a tool are civilized and understand anything other than aborable violence. The fucks that would like to bomb us, cut off the heads of people in their own country...... My swordfish quote is going to get a lot of use over the next few weeks I sense. Anyone who impinges on America's freedom. Terrorist states, Stanley. Someone must bring their war to them. They bomb a church, we bomb ten. They hijack a plane, we take out an airport. They execute American tourists, we tactically nuke an entire city. Our job is to make terrorism so horrific that it becomes unthinkable to attack Americans I am 100% certain that if we had glassed Afghanastain after 09/11 instead of getting into the game of country remodeling, it would have a sent a clear message to the rest of the radicals that we will wipe you out and we wouldn't have nearly the level of issues that we have had over the last few years. However if the people of this country had intestinal fortitude to do that we would not have shitty RINO's and the Socialist in Chief at the helm right now.... |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/27/2013 6:04:05 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
And that there is the problem, you are operating under the premise that those that use terrorism as a tool are civilized and understand anything other than aborable violence. The fucks that would like to bomb us, cut off the heads of people in their own country...... My swordfish quote is going to get a lot of use over the next few weeks I sense. Anyone who impinges on America's freedom. Terrorist states, Stanley. Someone must bring their war to them. They bomb a church, we bomb ten. They hijack a plane, we take out an airport. They execute American tourists, we tactically nuke an entire city. Our job is to make terrorism so horrific that it becomes unthinkable to attack Americans I am 100% certain that if we had glassed Afghanastain after 09/11 instead of getting into the game of country remodeling, it would have a sent a clear message to the rest of the radicals that we will wipe you out and we wouldn't have nearly the level of issues that we have had over the last few years. However if the people of this country had intestinal fortitude to do that we would not have shitty RINO's and the Socialist in Chief at the helm right now.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Cause secret courts work so well. http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2013/04/16/1226621/430212-boston-bomb.gif The government can't stop terrorism, period. They can destroy what shred of civil liberties we once had, but it won't do dick-all when it comes to stopping threats to America. The key to curtailing terrorism is good intel and going after suspected terrorists. 99% of every American is not a terrorist. TSA is not stopping terrorism by making you take off your shoes and hats and feeling up your daughters and wives. Nor is collecting every call that every American makes or texts. We need to be taking some lessons from Mossad and Israel. Maybe even the KGB. Seems some terrorists went after some Russians one time and KGB went and fucked them up so badly, it stopped immediately. We're talking amputations with a chainsaw type of fucked up. Time to go medieval on their asses. I've been preaching this since the mid 1980's. We need to stop going on apology tours and go on Tango hunting tours. No bag limit. I don't necessarily agree with the chainsaw portion of your post, but THIS. And that there is the problem, you are operating under the premise that those that use terrorism as a tool are civilized and understand anything other than aborable violence. The fucks that would like to bomb us, cut off the heads of people in their own country...... My swordfish quote is going to get a lot of use over the next few weeks I sense. Anyone who impinges on America's freedom. Terrorist states, Stanley. Someone must bring their war to them. They bomb a church, we bomb ten. They hijack a plane, we take out an airport. They execute American tourists, we tactically nuke an entire city. Our job is to make terrorism so horrific that it becomes unthinkable to attack Americans I am 100% certain that if we had glassed Afghanastain after 09/11 instead of getting into the game of country remodeling, it would have a sent a clear message to the rest of the radicals that we will wipe you out and we wouldn't have nearly the level of issues that we have had over the last few years. However if the people of this country had intestinal fortitude to do that we would not have shitty RINO's and the Socialist in Chief at the helm right now.... The REAL problem is that its NOT about terrorism. That is the excuse to justify it. Its about what it has always been about. Money. Power. Control. Blackmail. They missed the Boston Bombers, but they got General Petreaus and Governor Spitzer. Anybody remember J. Edgar's files? Money: They will hunt Americans for money anywhere in the world. You can run, but you can't hide. Power. Anything we can do to keep your political enemies from finding out what we know about you, we will do, congressman. Oh. we need a bigger appropriation in next year's budget. Blackmail. Resign now, and we will get you a better job later, where you can be of more use to us. And testify against whomever we dislike. Stop repeating the terrorism bullshit. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/27/2013 6:54:04 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
The House of Representatives. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Who has the power to impeach a sitting Justice? The House of Representatives. 
We're fucked. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/27/2013 6:55:29 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
And that there is the problem, you are operating under the premise that those that use terrorism as a tool are civilized and understand anything other than aborable violence. The fucks that would like to bomb us, cut off the heads of people in their own country...... My swordfish quote is going to get a lot of use over the next few weeks I sense. Anyone who impinges on America's freedom. Terrorist states, Stanley. Someone must bring their war to them. They bomb a church, we bomb ten. They hijack a plane, we take out an airport. They execute American tourists, we tactically nuke an entire city. Our job is to make terrorism so horrific that it becomes unthinkable to attack Americans I am 100% certain that if we had glassed Afghanastain after 09/11 instead of getting into the game of country remodeling, it would have a sent a clear message to the rest of the radicals that we will wipe you out and we wouldn't have nearly the level of issues that we have had over the last few years. However if the people of this country had intestinal fortitude to do that we would not have shitty RINO's and the Socialist in Chief at the helm right now.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Cause secret courts work so well. http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2013/04/16/1226621/430212-boston-bomb.gif The government can't stop terrorism, period. They can destroy what shred of civil liberties we once had, but it won't do dick-all when it comes to stopping threats to America. The key to curtailing terrorism is good intel and going after suspected terrorists. 99% of every American is not a terrorist. TSA is not stopping terrorism by making you take off your shoes and hats and feeling up your daughters and wives. Nor is collecting every call that every American makes or texts. We need to be taking some lessons from Mossad and Israel. Maybe even the KGB. Seems some terrorists went after some Russians one time and KGB went and fucked them up so badly, it stopped immediately. We're talking amputations with a chainsaw type of fucked up. Time to go medieval on their asses. I've been preaching this since the mid 1980's. We need to stop going on apology tours and go on Tango hunting tours. No bag limit. I don't necessarily agree with the chainsaw portion of your post, but THIS. And that there is the problem, you are operating under the premise that those that use terrorism as a tool are civilized and understand anything other than aborable violence. The fucks that would like to bomb us, cut off the heads of people in their own country...... My swordfish quote is going to get a lot of use over the next few weeks I sense. Anyone who impinges on America's freedom. Terrorist states, Stanley. Someone must bring their war to them. They bomb a church, we bomb ten. They hijack a plane, we take out an airport. They execute American tourists, we tactically nuke an entire city. Our job is to make terrorism so horrific that it becomes unthinkable to attack Americans I am 100% certain that if we had glassed Afghanastain after 09/11 instead of getting into the game of country remodeling, it would have a sent a clear message to the rest of the radicals that we will wipe you out and we wouldn't have nearly the level of issues that we have had over the last few years. However if the people of this country had intestinal fortitude to do that we would not have shitty RINO's and the Socialist in Chief at the helm right now.... I have no problem with escalating the response. I have an issue with using a chainsaw as that response. See the difference? |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/27/2013 6:58:51 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Cause secret courts work so well. http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2013/04/16/1226621/430212-boston-bomb.gif The government can't stop terrorism, period. They can destroy what shred of civil liberties we once had, but it won't do dick-all when it comes to stopping threats to America. Because politically they refuse to ask - or answer the correct questions. Our terrorist are overwhelming cut from nearly identical cloth and yet we waste limited resources on looking at the 99.9% of Americans that don't match the profile. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/27/2013 7:13:41 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
The government can't stop terrorism, period. They can destroy what shred of civil liberties we once had, but it won't do dick-all when it comes to stopping threats to America. Obviously the .gov can't stop 100% of terrorists, but FISA isn't just about terrorism. Your answer suggests we should just stop doing anything about foreign intelligence operations. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/27/2013 7:16:11 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Secret courts just need to disappear. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Secret courts just need to disappear. No decision by a secret court can be just. This whole thing is a farce. ETA: Quoted:
Quoted:
The government can't stop terrorism, period. They can destroy what shred of civil liberties we once had, but it won't do dick-all when it comes to stopping threats to America. Obviously the .gov can't stop 100% of terrorists, but FISA isn't just about terrorism. Your answer suggests we should just stop doing anything about foreign intelligence operations. The terrorists thank you. People like you made 9/11 a win, and not for the United States of America. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/27/2013 11:47:08 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Obviously the .gov can't stop 100% of terrorists, but FISA isn't just about terrorism. Your answer suggests we should just stop doing anything about foreign intelligence operations. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
The government can't stop terrorism, period. They can destroy what shred of civil liberties we once had, but it won't do dick-all when it comes to stopping threats to America. Obviously the .gov can't stop 100% of terrorists, but FISA isn't just about terrorism. Your answer suggests we should just stop doing anything about foreign intelligence operations. Other than stopping FBI stings, I'm not sure that we've ever actually stopped a 'real' terrorist attack. Regardless, the scary Chinaman or Russian is still no reason to give the government secret courts and extra-constitutional powers. DC is way scarier than Beijeing or Moscow. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/27/2013 6:05:27 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have no problem with escalating the response. Quote HistoryQuoted: I have no problem with escalating the response. I have an issue with using a chainsaw as that response. See the difference? I don't have the fortitude to go after someone with a chainsaw. My weapons of choice are rather limited in that area, but equally effective. The example I pointed out was that somewhere, sometime in an USSR country, a group of middle eastern terrorists did something to a group of USSR citizens. The KGB sent a hit team out and went full retard on them, and I heard that maybe even they did live dissections of the suspects to send a message. The message was received loud and clear, and nobody messed with them again. Either out of fear or respect, and in some places in the world, that equals the same. Our problem with terrorism is that since the 1970's Jimmy Carter flinched and we are the laughing stock of the world today. The only reason we got our hostages back from Iran was that Ronald Reagan came into office the very next day. Every time we got attacked overseas during Clinton's reign of terror was he immediately read a statement that the people responsible would be brought to justice, and nothing further would be done. Every single time. Maybe he would shoot a couple of missiles at an aspirin factory. What do they have to fear from us. Now, Big O goes on an apology tour if we get attacked. Attack us. It doesn't cost them a thing. Take the gloves off. Make CIA earn their pay for once in their lives. Send out Delta and Dev Group to go hunting. It's what they train for.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/27/2013 6:15:17 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
The hidden hand is a tax. 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/27/2013 6:23:27 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Either he is a loon or he knew this would come out eventually, and MAYBE take out Obamacare, once the whole truth is seen. If people find out that a random facebook post of them smoking the only cigarette of their lives will suddenly be seen by the "minders" and double their insurance rate in perpetuity.... Or if they by too much red meat, or salty foods with their debit card and the "minders" see that does not match with your government doctor's orders...... and you get fined or your rates go up.... Or when your GPS car insurance tracker shows that you drive too fast, that you get tickets AND your health insurance rates get doubled, automatically.... Well, all the support that is left from the people who actually PAY FUCKING TAXES TO SUPPORT THE DAMN THING.....might re-think the whole thing. ETA: Either way Roberts is, I hope that my hypothetical holds, and that people wake up and realize they have actually thrown their lives away for "free healthcare". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He's a fucking lunatic. Either he is a loon or he knew this would come out eventually, and MAYBE take out Obamacare, once the whole truth is seen. If people find out that a random facebook post of them smoking the only cigarette of their lives will suddenly be seen by the "minders" and double their insurance rate in perpetuity.... Or if they by too much red meat, or salty foods with their debit card and the "minders" see that does not match with your government doctor's orders...... and you get fined or your rates go up.... Or when your GPS car insurance tracker shows that you drive too fast, that you get tickets AND your health insurance rates get doubled, automatically.... Well, all the support that is left from the people who actually PAY FUCKING TAXES TO SUPPORT THE DAMN THING.....might re-think the whole thing. ETA: Either way Roberts is, I hope that my hypothetical holds, and that people wake up and realize they have actually thrown their lives away for "free healthcare". |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/27/2013 6:24:14 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Secret courts just need to disappear. This. The idea of a "secret court" is downright creepy and sinister. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/27/2013 6:27:18 PM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:
Roberts, Savage says, "has been quietly reshaping the secret court" by packing it with Republican-appointed judges, many of whom are former executive branch officials. Critics say Roberts' selections are more likely than other jurists to defer to the government when it says its domestic spying and data-mining are necessary to protect national security. That scares the shit out of me. The Republicans and Republican appointees stopped being the party of freedom a long time ago. They've been the party of "law and order no matter the cost" for too long. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/27/2013 6:28:46 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Decades back when your grandpa liked Ike mail was intercepted on large scale. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Wasn't it revealed that first class mail has been under surveillance for decades? Saw something about it on the news a few weeks ago. All mail is photographed and data mined. Been that way for years now. You just heard about it a few weeks ago.......... Decades back when your grandpa liked Ike mail was intercepted on large scale. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/27/2013 6:29:50 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I don't have the fortitude to go after someone with a chainsaw. My weapons of choice are rather limited in that area, but equally effective. The example I pointed out was that somewhere, sometime in an USSR country, a group of middle eastern terrorists did something to a group of USSR citizens. The KGB sent a hit team out and went full retard on them, and I heard that maybe even they did live dissections of the suspects to send a message. The message was received loud and clear, and nobody messed with them again. Either out of fear or respect, and in some places in the world, that equals the same. Our problem with terrorism is that since the 1970's Jimmy Carter flinched and we are the laughing stock of the world today. The only reason we got our hostages back from Iran was that Ronald Reagan came into office the very next day. Every time we got attacked overseas during Clinton's reign of terror was he immediately read a statement that the people responsible would be brought to justice, and nothing further would be done. Every single time. Maybe he would shoot a couple of missiles at an aspirin factory. What do they have to fear from us. Now, Big O goes on an apology tour if we get attacked. Attack us. It doesn't cost them a thing. Take the gloves off. Make CIA earn their pay for once in their lives. Send out Delta and Dev Group to go hunting. It's what they train for. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
I have no problem with escalating the response. I have an issue with using a chainsaw as that response. See the difference? I don't have the fortitude to go after someone with a chainsaw. My weapons of choice are rather limited in that area, but equally effective. The example I pointed out was that somewhere, sometime in an USSR country, a group of middle eastern terrorists did something to a group of USSR citizens. The KGB sent a hit team out and went full retard on them, and I heard that maybe even they did live dissections of the suspects to send a message. The message was received loud and clear, and nobody messed with them again. Either out of fear or respect, and in some places in the world, that equals the same. Our problem with terrorism is that since the 1970's Jimmy Carter flinched and we are the laughing stock of the world today. The only reason we got our hostages back from Iran was that Ronald Reagan came into office the very next day. Every time we got attacked overseas during Clinton's reign of terror was he immediately read a statement that the people responsible would be brought to justice, and nothing further would be done. Every single time. Maybe he would shoot a couple of missiles at an aspirin factory. What do they have to fear from us. Now, Big O goes on an apology tour if we get attacked. Attack us. It doesn't cost them a thing. Take the gloves off. Make CIA earn their pay for once in their lives. Send out Delta and Dev Group to go hunting. It's what they train for. That has not a damn thing to do with the US government spying on US citizens. Post tree quoted for a reason. There's a huge difference between terrorists in action and citizens going about their daily business. |
|
|
Win a FREE Membership!
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
