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Posted: 10/5/2004 12:28:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/5/2004 4:58:12 PM EDT by peekay]
IT'S STARTING!
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 12:29:32 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 12:29:42 PM EDT
You mean Edwards vs. Cheney, right?

Or do you mean that Edwards will contradict Kerry?
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 12:29:54 PM EDT
Cheney
Cheney, not Kerry.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 12:31:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/5/2004 12:32:24 PM EDT by mojo]
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 12:32:32 PM EDT
I thought Kerry was debating Admiral "It's a trap!" Ackbar?


Link Posted: 10/5/2004 12:33:13 PM EDT
IMO, Edwards did poorly in the primary debates, and that was against people with similar views. Unless Cheney has a W moment, he will easily appear the victor.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 12:45:02 PM EDT
Dick Cheney is pretty much going to mop the floor with Edwards' ass. The VP is not known for taking shit from people, especially lawyers. It's going to be interesting...
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 1:24:12 PM EDT
I hope he whips his ass like a red-headed step-child.

As soon as the transcript is posted on Cspan.org I will upload it to my site!!
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 1:28:05 PM EDT
I'm going to have my popcorn ready for when Edwards tries to pull the "Haliburton" card.

Cheney will hand him his ass.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 1:28:52 PM EDT
On substance, Cheney wins easily.

But I FULLY expect Edwards to use his slick talking, word smithing, trial lawyer BS to try to trip up Cheney.

Edwarsd didn't make millions as a slime ball lawyer cuz he was inept as misrepresenting the facts.

Link Posted: 10/5/2004 1:29:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By garandman:


Edwarsd didn't make millions as a slime ball lawyer cuz he was inept as misrepresenting the facts.




No, but he was able to cherrypick his battles. Something he won't be able to do tonight...
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 1:39:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DriftPunch:

Originally Posted By garandman:


Edwarsd didn't make millions as a slime ball lawyer cuz he was inept as misrepresenting the facts.




No, but he was able to cherrypick his battles. Something he won't be able to do tonight...




Good point, to a point. I hope you are right.

IF Cheney lets him, Edwards can make ALL SORTS of unfounded allegations, as your typical slimeball PI lawyer would. IF CHeney lets him, Edwards can set the entire tone of the debate.

"Halliburton, Halliburtin, Halliburton, payoffs, no bid contracts, corporate scandals, 1,000 dead GI's, no WMD's...." - it would be REAL easy for Edwards to essentially lie his way into putting Cheney on the defensive.



Link Posted: 10/5/2004 1:41:44 PM EDT
I believe Bush's poll numbers would go up 10 points if Cheney tells Edwards to "Go F*** himself" on National TV tonight.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 1:43:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By garandman:

IF Cheney lets him, Edwards can make ALL SORTS of unfounded allegations, as your typical slimeball PI lawyer would. IF CHeney lets him, Edwards can set the entire tone of the debate.

"Halliburton, Halliburtin, Halliburton, payoffs, no bid contracts, corporate scandals, 1,000 dead GI's, no WMD's...." - it would be REAL easy for Edwards to essentially lie his way into putting Cheney on the defensive.




I would expect VP Cheney to be ready for that method of attack. It is the logical and easiest choice for Edwards.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 1:43:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By garandman:

IF Cheney lets him, Edwards can make ALL SORTS of unfounded allegations, as your typical slimeball PI lawyer would. IF CHeney lets him, Edwards can set the entire tone of the debate.

"Halliburton, Halliburtin, Halliburton, payoffs, no bid contracts, corporate scandals, 1,000 dead GI's, no WMD's...." - it would be REAL easy for Edwards to essentially lie his way into putting Cheney on the defensive.


Possibly, but the backfire potential is huge, and Edwards is smart enough to know it. Now that Kerry has closed the gap, or at least stopped the bleeding, he will feel more pressure to appeal to the center. Those that can tip the scales (swing voters), will be turned off by unfounded rehetoric.

For those who don't think the VP can do damage to the campaign, remember Stockdale?
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 1:45:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By junebug68:
Dick Cheney is pretty much going to mop the floor with Edwards' ass. The VP is not known for taking shit from people, especially lawyers. It's going to be interesting...



I doubt it.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 1:48:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DriftPunch:
Possibly, but the backfire potential is huge, and Edwards is smart enough to know it. Now that Kerry has closed the gap, or at least stopped the bleeding, he will feel more pressure to appeal to the center. Those that can tip the scales (swing voters), will be turned off by unfounded rehetoric.

For those who don't think the VP can do damage to the campaign, remember Stockdale?



True.

The conundrum the Dems find themselves in is in having to

1. Use all sorts of inflammatory rheotirc to keep the emotional hell fire enflamed in the rabid DU types,


AND

2. Use reasoned logical arguments to appeal to the moderates still undeciede.

Tought to do at the same time, but I'll GUARANTEE you their WILL be some red meat tonite for the FAR left base Kery needs.

Link Posted: 10/5/2004 4:57:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/5/2004 5:01:19 PM EDT by peekay]
HEY SHITSTICK, QUIT WRITING!!
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 4:59:49 PM EDT
What are they doing?
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:02:40 PM EDT
Looks like they are dumping talking points onto blank pads at the start. some debate condition?

lame. how long can Edwards write "Halliburton" over and over?
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:04:19 PM EDT

Straight off the bat quoting Bremer
and Rummy.

Ouch.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:04:37 PM EDT
Cheney reduces charmboy to jello. Thats my prediction and I'm sticking to it.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:06:36 PM EDT
did you hear that loaded question that the moderator asked cheney, that bitch!
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:07:47 PM EDT
Cheney handled that well. Charmboy looks like a little bitch with is opening comment. misleading the American public. what a pube.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:08:27 PM EDT
Johnny is opening his mouth! Better don the BS shields!
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:09:23 PM EDT
we need a fresh start in iraq.. oh wait, saddam had nothing to do with 9/11...
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:09:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By spm681:
Cheney reduces charmboy to jello. Thats my prediction and I'm sticking to it.



I sure hope so, we need that.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:10:42 PM EDT
Charmboy is going off topic. Cant answer the question. So should Saddam be there or not??
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:10:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By WI_Rifleman:
did you hear that loaded question that the moderator asked cheney, that bitch!

what a fucking load of bullshit. i can't believe they would have the gall...
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:11:27 PM EDT
Wow Cheney looks really nervous. He's constantly fidgeting with his hands. Edwards is doing much better than Cheney and seems to be kicking Cheney's ass just like Kerry did to Bush. You think they would have learned something from the last debate. Hopefully Cheney is just getting warmed up.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:11:37 PM EDT
Same as usual, Edward's pounding on the no connection to 9/11 thing, but Iraq was reported to be connected to Al-Quada.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:11:57 PM EDT
Cheney is taking him to the woodshed.

I wish Bush had looked this good against Lurch!
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:12:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SWIRE:
Wow Cheney looks really nervous. He's constantly fidgeting with his hands. Edwards is doing much better than Cheney and seems to be kicking Cheney's ass just like Kerry did to Bush. You think they would have learned something from the last debate. Hopefully Cheney is just getting warmed up.

are you watching the same debate? or is this just some dellusional liberal fantasy?
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:12:31 PM EDT
You know, If Bush could speak like Cheney we would be sitting here talking about who to run in 08. Very forceful and clear in his opinions.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:12:40 PM EDT
Cheney is spanking that ass!!!
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:13:05 PM EDT
PWNED!!!!! Cheney did it - he mentioned Kerry's record - woot!
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:13:14 PM EDT
imo, cheny is already tearing him apart.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:13:35 PM EDT

Wow Cheney looks really nervous. He's constantly fidgeting with his hands. Edwards is doing much better than Cheney and seems to be kicking Cheney's ass just like Kerry did to Bush. You think they would have learned something from the last debate. Hopefully Cheney is just getting warmed up.



Could not disagree more.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:13:39 PM EDT
Cheney is kicking ass, yes!
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:13:47 PM EDT
Every time there is an "opening" for Edwards (i.e., hes got the last word on a question), watch for Edwards to CHANGE THE SUBJECT and take a cheap shot.

He'll do it every time.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:13:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By -Absolut-:

Originally Posted By SWIRE:
Wow Cheney looks really nervous. He's constantly fidgeting with his hands. Edwards is doing much better than Cheney and seems to be kicking Cheney's ass just like Kerry did to Bush. You think they would have learned something from the last debate. Hopefully Cheney is just getting warmed up.

are you watching the same debate? or is this just some dellusional liberal fantasy?



No shit! Cheney is burying this pissant!
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:15:00 PM EDT
WTF is Eddie writing? He surely isn't making any points.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:15:45 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:15:48 PM EDT
Edwards is twisting Kerry's words. What a slimy little lawyer.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:15:51 PM EDT

ARGH. Now sKerry has Edwards
mentioning Vietnam!
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:16:54 PM EDT
Let's talk about El Salvadore you snot nosed bitch!
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:17:03 PM EDT
Cheney strikes back
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:17:03 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:17:09 PM EDT
When John talks about miltary tactics, it makes me laugh. I always envision him better selling used cars or serving biscuits n gravy at popeyes chicken.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:17:26 PM EDT
This embarassing! Edwards is all over the map!!!

I LOVE IT!
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