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Posted: 9/12/2011 7:13:22 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/12/2011 7:14:54 PM EST by Justa_TXguy]
Not seeing anyone now so I was checking out the wimins.

35 years old and a bartender. How does that happen? Partying your life away sounds like fun until you realize her net worth is probably less than her B.A.C.

21 years old with 3 kids. Not same fathers. I'm guessing none of them pay child support either. No thanks, I'm not gonna be #4.

26 years old in college. Sent her a message, we talk a couple times, oh by the way I'm pregnant and I know I'm going to find someone who is man enough to step up. Um, pregnant and on a dating website. Why not just jump straight to preggo porn?

So many people with high school listed as their highest education and a couple kids. No, I'm not interested in supporting you.

Then tonight I came across a profile for a lady I used to work with. She's mid 40s, kind of cute if you like the high energy type, and completely crazy. I read her profile. It is entirely nothing like how she really is. I feel bad for the dude that sees that she's tall, slender, and cute enough and jumps on it. Woe be upon him.

Please note I have deliberately not said anything about the stampede of fatties on every page who list themselves as average. The worst part is that they are correct.
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 12:52:53 PM EST
Originally Posted By Justa_TXguy:
26 years old in college. Sent her a message, we talk a couple times, oh by the way I'm pregnant and I know I'm going to find someone who is man enough to step up. Um, pregnant and on a dating website. Why not just jump straight to preggo porn?


I'm not really seeing a downside on this one.
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 1:02:36 PM EST
What should the 35 year old bartender aspire to be your highness?
A friend of mine is a 35 year old bartender and wouldn't trade it for the world. He loves going to work. That's more than I can say for most people.
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 1:12:08 PM EST
I met my gf off match but had to wade thru soo many terrible people/profiles. Just be prepared for disapointment. One example I met a girl who i really liked alot, she was getting her ccw, liked guns, etc but then i found out she had 2yr old kid . I had already been down that road and didnt want to deal with it again. Lots and lots of young mothers out there pretty sad really.
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 1:15:30 PM EST
I got bored and looked at the listings in my area (50 miles). 80% of them seemed to have a child.

One had on there she was pregnant and expecting the child Sept. 9th!

I'm young, I'm free, you can keep your fuck trophy.
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 1:19:03 PM EST

Originally Posted By sleevefullofaces:
What should the 35 year old bartender aspire to be your highness?
A friend of mine is a 35 year old bartender and wouldn't trade it for the world. He loves going to work. That's more than I can say for most people.

Which is higher, his net worth or his BAC?

OP, you might give the 35YO bartender a whirl. Your suspicions about her net worth:BAC ratio may be correct, but they may not. Not all bartenders are irresponsible drunks. The hours might suck, but the wages are pretty good and once you're there - tending bar, making money, no other skills that would bring home that kind of scratch - it's probably hard to quit.

Also, those big girls will probably do anything. ANYTHING.
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 1:24:32 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/13/2011 1:25:03 PM EST by Dragracer]

Originally Posted By Justa_TXguy:
Not seeing anyone now so I was checking out the wimins.

35 years old and a bartender. How does that happen? Partying your life away sounds like fun until you realize her net worth is probably less than her B.A.C.

21 years old with 3 kids. Not same fathers. I'm guessing none of them pay child support either. No thanks, I'm not gonna be #4.

26 years old in college. Sent her a message, we talk a couple times, oh by the way I'm pregnant and I know I'm going to find someone who is man enough to step up. Um, pregnant and on a dating website. Why not just jump straight to preggo porn?

So many people with high school listed as their highest education and a couple kids. No, I'm not interested in supporting you.

Then tonight I came across a profile for a lady I used to work with. She's mid 40s, kind of cute if you like the high energy type, and completely crazy. I read her profile. It is entirely nothing like how she really is. I feel bad for the dude that sees that she's tall, slender, and cute enough and jumps on it. Woe be upon him.

Please note I have deliberately not said anything about the stampede of fatties on every page who list themselves as average. The worst part is that they are correct.



Link Posted: 9/13/2011 1:24:53 PM EST
I know a 30 year old bartender. She makes a fuck-load in tips and is gorgeous to boot. There might just be something to that line of work.
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 1:26:47 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/13/2011 1:26:57 PM EST by TerribleTom]

Originally Posted By XCRmonger:
I know a 30 year old bartender. She makes a fuck-load in tips and is gorgeous to boot. There might just be something to that line of work.

Chicken > Egg
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 1:28:48 PM EST

Originally Posted By XCRmonger:

She makes a fuck-load in tips and is gorgeous to boot.


I know that correlation does not mean causation, but in this case it just might.

My nephew's wife quit her job as a real estate manager to go back to bar tending. She loves her job and makes good money.


Link Posted: 9/13/2011 1:29:20 PM EST
Originally Posted By TerribleTom:

Originally Posted By XCRmonger:
I know a 30 year old bartender. She makes a fuck-load in tips and is gorgeous to boot. There might just be something to that line of work.

Chicken > Egg


Well, if you could take home a couple hundred bucks on a good night in tips, wouldn't you? I knew a guy who was a bartender. He made good money, too. If you work at a good establishment and have a way with people, it can be a pretty decent living.
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 1:32:38 PM EST
Seriously, I plan to do all I can to keep my marriage good, and heaven forbid I ever become a widower, because I know that I'd probably be way too picky to ever marry again.
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 1:33:36 PM EST
Originally Posted By Shane333:
Seriously, I plan to do all I can to keep my marriage good, and heaven forbid I ever become a widower, because I know that I'd probably be way too picky to ever marry again.


If I ever ended up single I think I'd move to a shack in the middle of nowhere.
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 1:33:37 PM EST
Originally Posted By Justa_TXguy:

Then tonight I came across a profile for a lady I used to work with. She's mid 40s, kind of cute if you like the high energy type, and completely crazy. I read her profile. It is entirely nothing like how she really is. I feel bad for the dude that sees that she's tall, slender, and cute enough and jumps on it. Woe be upon him.



Are you so busy shopping for a fixer-upper that you don't have time for a test drive?
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 1:34:06 PM EST
My tits aren't big enough to get good tips as a bartender.
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 1:36:10 PM EST

Originally Posted By XCRmonger:
Originally Posted By Shane333:
Seriously, I plan to do all I can to keep my marriage good, and heaven forbid I ever become a widower, because I know that I'd probably be way too picky to ever marry again.


If I ever ended up single I think I'd move to a shack in the middle of nowhere.

I'd probably be too complacent from years of having an awesome wife, and get rolled by the first evil chick I tried to date.

Assuming I even tried. I hated dating.


Link Posted: 9/13/2011 1:41:04 PM EST

Originally Posted By Buliwyf:
My tits aren't big enough to get good tips as a bartender.

There's a bra for that.


Link Posted: 9/13/2011 1:42:10 PM EST
Originally Posted By XCRmonger:
Originally Posted By Shane333:
Seriously, I plan to do all I can to keep my marriage good, and heaven forbid I ever become a widower, because I know that I'd probably be way too picky to ever marry again.


If I ever ended up single I think I'd move to a shack in the middle of nowhere.


It's just that I have a much, much lower threshold for drama or craziness in general, and in many ways my wife has set the bar so high.

BTW, if you move to a shack in the middle of nowhere, civilization will be much poorer for it.
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 1:43:47 PM EST
could I get the pregnant bartender's email?
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 1:43:56 PM EST
Originally Posted By wingnutx:

Originally Posted By XCRmonger:
Originally Posted By Shane333:
Seriously, I plan to do all I can to keep my marriage good, and heaven forbid I ever become a widower, because I know that I'd probably be way too picky to ever marry again.


If I ever ended up single I think I'd move to a shack in the middle of nowhere.

I'd probably be too complacent from years of having an awesome wife, and get rolled by the first evil chick I tried to date.

Assuming I even tried. I hated dating.





That's just it, having experienced some extremes in my relationship with my wife, I would simply be extra picky and and have zero patience for balogna.
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 1:48:00 PM EST

Originally Posted By Shane333:
Originally Posted By XCRmonger:
Originally Posted By Shane333:
Seriously, I plan to do all I can to keep my marriage good, and heaven forbid I ever become a widower, because I know that I'd probably be way too picky to ever marry again.


If I ever ended up single I think I'd move to a shack in the middle of nowhere.


It's just that I have a much, much lower threshold for drama or craziness in general, and in many ways my wife has set the bar so high.

BTW, if you move to a shack in the middle of nowhere, civilization will be much poorer for it.
Well she might still have the interwebz.

Link Posted: 9/13/2011 1:51:50 PM EST
Justa_TXguy,

What percentage of women on the dating websites would you say are single moms? I'm curious about that.
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 1:52:18 PM EST
Originally Posted By N1Rampage:
I got bored and looked at the listings in my area (50 miles). 80% of them seemed to have a child.

One had on there she was pregnant and expecting the child Sept. 9th!

I'm young, I'm free, you can keep your fuck trophy.


I wonder if the numbers are really that high.
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 1:55:13 PM EST

Originally Posted By Shane333:
Originally Posted By N1Rampage:
I got bored and looked at the listings in my area (50 miles). 80% of them seemed to have a child.

One had on there she was pregnant and expecting the child Sept. 9th!

I'm young, I'm free, you can keep your fuck trophy.

I wonder if the numbers are really that high.

That may be a slight exaggeration, but I wouldn't be surprised if the actual percentage was well over 50%.

FWIW, I've been married 17 years and have spent literally no time on internet dating sites.
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 1:55:36 PM EST
Originally Posted By Justa_TXguy:
Not seeing anyone now so I was checking out the wimins.

35 years old and a bartender. How does that happen? Partying your life away sounds like fun until you realize her net worth is probably less than her B.A.C.

21 years old with 3 kids. Not same fathers. I'm guessing none of them pay child support either. No thanks, I'm not gonna be #4.

26 years old in college. Sent her a message, we talk a couple times, oh by the way I'm pregnant and I know I'm going to find someone who is man enough to step up. Um, pregnant and on a dating website. Why not just jump straight to preggo porn?

So many people with high school listed as their highest education and a couple kids. No, I'm not interested in supporting you.

Then tonight I came across a profile for a lady I used to work with. She's mid 40s, kind of cute if you like the high energy type, and completely crazy. I read her profile. It is entirely nothing like how she really is. I feel bad for the dude that sees that she's tall, slender, and cute enough and jumps on it. Woe be upon him.

Please note I have deliberately not said anything about the stampede of fatties on every page who list themselves as average. The worst part is that they are correct.


You must be in the dallas/ft. worth area.
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 1:55:38 PM EST
I was told by a girl who was a bartender, NEVER marry a bartender.

Late night closings, etc., lead to a LOT of infidelities and such.
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 1:57:22 PM EST

Your doing it wrong. Stop worrying about all that shit. Just go get laid by hot chicks. Eventually one of them will be good enough to keep and you get to have fun looking for her.

Just dont let yourself get trapped by a bad one...
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 1:58:56 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/13/2011 2:03:05 PM EST by legalese77]

Originally Posted By sleevefullofaces:
What should the 35 year old bartender aspire to be your highness?
A friend of mine is a 35 year old bartender and wouldn't trade it for the world. He loves going to work. That's more than I can say for most people.

Tag for the answer. Also, which is worse? Bartender or unemployed?

When did bartenders become such a lowly caste? I had a "former" meth addict telling me the other day how HE wouldn't let HIS girlfriend tend bar, that just ain't right! A real man would never let his girl tend bar!

Nevermind that she is charged with helping him to commit a burglary....
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 2:01:19 PM EST
Originally Posted By Shane333:
Seriously, I plan to do all I can to keep my marriage good, and heaven forbid I ever become a widower, because I know that I'd probably be way too picky to ever marry again.

Aside from the fact that I'd be devastated at being widowed, I'd dread having to date again.
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 2:03:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/13/2011 2:05:07 PM EST by N1Rampage]

Originally Posted By Shane333:
Originally Posted By N1Rampage:
I got bored and looked at the listings in my area (50 miles). 80% of them seemed to have a child.

One had on there she was pregnant and expecting the child Sept. 9th!

I'm young, I'm free, you can keep your fuck trophy.


I wonder if the numbers are really that high.
I tried to filter them out, but you can't hide the truth when there's pictures of a CHILD'S SEAT in your car!

Link Posted: 9/13/2011 2:03:52 PM EST
Stampede of fatties... I lol'd.
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 2:05:24 PM EST
Find Gawd (or Lawd, depending on your dialect of American English) first, Gawd (or Lawd) finds you the wimmenz.
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 2:07:47 PM EST
Originally Posted By 30calTBLkid:
Originally Posted By Justa_TXguy:

Then tonight I came across a profile for a lady I used to work with. She's mid 40s, kind of cute if you like the high energy type, and completely crazy. I read her profile. It is entirely nothing like how she really is. I feel bad for the dude that sees that she's tall, slender, and cute enough and jumps on it. Woe be upon him.



Are you so busy shopping for a fixer-upper that you don't have time for a test drive?


She may not be Miss Right, but she could be Miss Right Now.
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 2:12:40 PM EST
Originally Posted By DDiggler:
I was told by a girl who was a bartender, NEVER marry a bartender.

Late night closings, etc., lead to a LOT of infidelities and such.


Yep, and who wants to end up 45 years old with virtually no marketable skills or experience other than slinging drinks for drunk 20 year olds
Link Posted: 9/13/2011 2:35:49 PM EST

Originally Posted By LoneCoyoteHunter:
Originally Posted By DDiggler:
I was told by a girl who was a bartender, NEVER marry a bartender.

Late night closings, etc., lead to a LOT of infidelities and such.

Yep, and who wants to end up 45 years old with virtually no marketable skills or experience other than slinging drinks for drunk 20 year olds

Nobody wants to sling drinks for the young party crowd. They simply don't tip well enough.

The lucrative bartending jobs are at nicer places serving late-20s to mid-40s clientele.

A lazy little place at the beach can net a bartender $200/shift, plus hourly wages, and the bartender barely breaks a sweat.

As I mentioned above, I'd give the bartender a whirl.
Link Posted: 9/28/2011 1:39:18 AM EST
Originally Posted By Shane333:
Justa_TXguy,

What percentage of women on the dating websites would you say are single moms? I'm curious about that.


My searches yield about 75% mothers.

I'd imagine the 18-25 crowd would be lower, maybe 50%.

Link Posted: 9/28/2011 1:44:11 AM EST
Originally Posted By Justa_TXguy:
Not seeing anyone now so I was checking out the wimins.

35 years old and a bartender. How does that happen? Partying your life away sounds like fun until you realize her net worth is probably less than her B.A.C.

21 years old with 3 kids. Not same fathers. I'm guessing none of them pay child support either. No thanks, I'm not gonna be #4.

26 years old in college. Sent her a message, we talk a couple times, oh by the way I'm pregnant and I know I'm going to find someone who is man enough to step up. Um, pregnant and on a dating website. Why not just jump straight to preggo porn?

So many people with high school listed as their highest education and a couple kids. No, I'm not interested in supporting you.

Then tonight I came across a profile for a lady I used to work with. She's mid 40s, kind of cute if you like the high energy type, and completely crazy. I read her profile. It is entirely nothing like how she really is. I feel bad for the dude that sees that she's tall, slender, and cute enough and jumps on it. Woe be upon him.

Please note I have deliberately not said anything about the stampede of fatties on every page who list themselves as average. The worst part is that they are correct.






Huh...?!!

So why ain't you tappin that shit...?!!!









Link Posted: 9/28/2011 1:46:59 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/28/2011 1:50:10 AM EST by Noname]


Originally Posted By Buliwyf:
My tits aren't big enough to get good tips as a bartender.




What no pic's...?!!!









ETA ––––––- These are female tits we be talkin about...?



















Link Posted: 9/28/2011 1:51:02 AM EST
Originally Posted By Noname:
Originally Posted By Justa_TXguy:
Not seeing anyone now so I was checking out the wimins.

35 years old and a bartender. How does that happen? Partying your life away sounds like fun until you realize her net worth is probably less than her B.A.C.

21 years old with 3 kids. Not same fathers. I'm guessing none of them pay child support either. No thanks, I'm not gonna be #4.

26 years old in college. Sent her a message, we talk a couple times, oh by the way I'm pregnant and I know I'm going to find someone who is man enough to step up. Um, pregnant and on a dating website. Why not just jump straight to preggo porn?

So many people with high school listed as their highest education and a couple kids. No, I'm not interested in supporting you.

Then tonight I came across a profile for a lady I used to work with. She's mid 40s, kind of cute if you like the high energy type, and completely crazy. I read her profile. It is entirely nothing like how she really is. I feel bad for the dude that sees that she's tall, slender, and cute enough and jumps on it. Woe be upon him.

Please note I have deliberately not said anything about the stampede of fatties on every page who list themselves as average. The worst part is that they are correct.






Huh...?!!

So why ain't you tappin that shit...?!!!











She.is.crazy.as.shit. I literally would worry about her poisoning my food or stabbing me, even if everything was going great. She's just THAT off and she's hard to head.


For those who think I'm being an ass for not being interested in a bartender, I just found another bartender profile. Cute chick that says she's been single for 4 years and has a newborn son. If that's isn't enough to keep a sane man away, her dating profile has pics of her kids in it. Yes, mention your kids, but why would you post their pics? That's always a huge red flag for me.

Link Posted: 9/28/2011 2:03:28 AM EST

Originally Posted By Shane333:
Seriously, I plan to do all I can to keep my marriage good, and heaven forbid I ever become a widower, because I know that I'd probably be way too picky to ever marry again.

I wouldn't even try. My wife puts up with my projects that take forver to finish (in spite of the best intentions , like the downstairs bathroom).
Link Posted: 9/28/2011 2:06:20 AM EST

Originally Posted By Shane333:
Originally Posted By N1Rampage:
I got bored and looked at the listings in my area (50 miles). 80% of them seemed to have a child.

One had on there she was pregnant and expecting the child Sept. 9th!

I'm young, I'm free, you can keep your fuck trophy.


I wonder if the numbers are really that high.

Consider that single parenthood has lost much of its societal stigma so young women in some social circles actually aspire to it. As well as the complete failure of young men, on the whole, to be taught responsibility for where they stick their johnson and you get lots of young, single mothers with multiple kids by different fathers.
Link Posted: 9/28/2011 2:10:39 AM EST
Originally Posted By Jame_Retief:

Originally Posted By Shane333:
Originally Posted By N1Rampage:
I got bored and looked at the listings in my area (50 miles). 80% of them seemed to have a child.

One had on there she was pregnant and expecting the child Sept. 9th!

I'm young, I'm free, you can keep your fuck trophy.


I wonder if the numbers are really that high.

Consider that single parenthood has lost much of its societal stigma so young women in some social circles actually aspire to it. As well as the complete failure of young men, on the whole, to be taught responsibility for where they stick their johnson and you get lots of young, single mothers with multiple kids by different fathers.


That and the fact that financially, several kids means housing and income whether you work or not. [WIC, ADC, Food stamps, section 8, utility payments, ect] Have one with some kind of mild "disability" and the income rachets up even more.
Link Posted: 9/28/2011 2:15:45 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/28/2011 2:31:48 AM EST by HommieDaKlown]
must be your first time dealing with humans to be surprised by any of this


the ones worth a damn are taken
Link Posted: 9/28/2011 2:16:13 AM EST
Originally Posted By sleevefullofaces:
What should the 35 year old bartender aspire to be your highness?
A friend of mine is a 35 year old bartender and wouldn't trade it for the world. He loves going to work. That's more than I can say for most people.


This.

Plus, some bartenders make good money with tips.
Link Posted: 9/28/2011 2:19:36 AM EST
Originally Posted By grayparatrooper:
I met my gf off match but had to wade thru soo many terrible people/profiles. Just be prepared for disapointment. One example I met a girl who i really liked alot, she was getting her ccw, liked guns, etc but then i found out she had 2yr old kid . I had already been down that road and didnt want to deal with it again. Lots and lots of young mothers out there pretty sad really.


I can understand that not everyone wants to deal with someone else's kid, but keep in mind that the older you are and the older your age-range is for prospective partners, the more likely they are to have already been married or had kids.

I mean, the 21 year old with three kids with three different dads is just bullshit. I don't blame anyone for not wanting to deal with that. But if you're 40 and looking for someone around the same age, you'll massively decrease your dating options by ruling out divorcees or single parents (even good parents who don't have 59 different baby-daddies) or people who aren't CEOs.
Link Posted: 9/28/2011 2:19:57 AM EST
Originally Posted By Justa_TXguy:
Not seeing anyone now so I was checking out the wimins.

35 years old and a bartender. How does that happen? Partying your life away sounds like fun until you realize her net worth is probably less than her B.A.C.

21 years old with 3 kids. Not same fathers. I'm guessing none of them pay child support either. No thanks, I'm not gonna be #4.

26 years old in college. Sent her a message, we talk a couple times, oh by the way I'm pregnant and I know I'm going to find someone who is man enough to step up. Um, pregnant and on a dating website. Why not just jump straight to preggo porn?

So many people with high school listed as their highest education and a couple kids. No, I'm not interested in supporting you.

Then tonight I came across a profile for a lady I used to work with. She's mid 40s, kind of cute if you like the high energy type, and completely crazy. I read her profile. It is entirely nothing like how she really is. I feel bad for the dude that sees that she's tall, slender, and cute enough and jumps on it. Woe be upon him.

Please note I have deliberately not said anything about the stampede of fatties on every page who list themselves as average. The worst part is that they are correct.





How about the father man up and step up.... geeeeeze... what the fuck is wrong with people!
Link Posted: 9/28/2011 2:20:40 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/28/2011 2:21:50 AM EST by Justa_TXguy]
Originally Posted By DriveNASCAR:
Originally Posted By sleevefullofaces:
What should the 35 year old bartender aspire to be your highness?
A friend of mine is a 35 year old bartender and wouldn't trade it for the world. He loves going to work. That's more than I can say for most people.


This.

Plus, some bartenders make good money with tips.


Bartenders make ok money when they're young. How well do 40+ year old bartenders do?

If I'm looking for some temporary pussy, I guess I wouldn't care what will happen to her when her looks fade. I'm mostly past the temporary pussy stage of my life, though.
Link Posted: 9/28/2011 2:23:49 AM EST
Originally Posted By RJGatling:
Originally Posted By Justa_TXguy:
26 years old in college. Sent her a message, we talk a couple times, oh by the way I'm pregnant and I know I'm going to find someone who is man enough to step up. Um, pregnant and on a dating website. Why not just jump straight to preggo porn?


I'm not really seeing a downside on this one.


I wonder if this was the chick puking on Tosh.0 last week?
Link Posted: 9/28/2011 2:24:47 AM EST
http://www.meet-an-inmate.com/ladies/
probably more honest than a real dating site ironically
Link Posted: 9/28/2011 2:24:53 AM EST
The world is a funny funny place.
Link Posted: 9/28/2011 2:25:25 AM EST
Originally Posted By TerribleTom:

Originally Posted By Shane333:
Originally Posted By N1Rampage:
I got bored and looked at the listings in my area (50 miles). 80% of them seemed to have a child.

One had on there she was pregnant and expecting the child Sept. 9th!

I'm young, I'm free, you can keep your fuck trophy.

I wonder if the numbers are really that high.

That may be a slight exaggeration, but I wouldn't be surprised if the actual percentage was well over 50%.

FWIW, I've been married 17 years and have spent literally no time on internet dating sites.


Years ago, before I met my wife, I had a profile on a dating web site. I never actually dated anyone who contacted me on there. But I think that 50% (or more) is probably pretty accurate, at least where I lived. It seemed like most of the women on there had kids except for three sub-groups:

1) Women who were like 18 or 19, which was far younger than I was interested in dating.
2) The really obsessed-with-their-career types who even said stuff in their profile about not really having time for dating/relationships, anyway.
3) The kind who just wanted a hook-up, since they were probably using birth control all the time anyway (which is smart on their part, in my opinion).
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