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Posted: 8/19/2005 7:05:55 AM EDT



Coyote brown finish
HK rear barrel sight
Optics accessory rail
Vortex flashhider
Clear magazine
Extended mag release

This is a prototype by Grenadier Precision, and their rep has already mentioned changing a few things. Specifically, the optics rail is going to be reworked, and the actual weapon pictured is a 7.62x39. The 5.56mm magazine is just for show. Soon a 5.56mm version that accepts these mags will be available.

Sorry, I don't know price or when it will hit the market. It's just awesome to look at.


Mods, I realize you may want to move this to the AK forum, but I like to interject a little gun talk into GD once in a while, in an effort to keep it real.


Link Posted: 8/19/2005 7:07:24 AM EDT
That's pretty dope.
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 7:07:36 AM EDT
I'll take one right now !
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 7:09:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/19/2005 7:09:53 AM EDT by cruze5]



dont' touch that barrel
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 7:09:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/19/2005 7:21:24 AM EDT by leelaw]
<sigh>








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ETA: looks kinda like an AK's attempt to imitate a Sig 55x series. I like.
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 7:11:38 AM EDT
Even given that I really can't stand the official Third World Rabble issue rifle, that is one nice looking piece. Makes me rethink the whole AK thing. Might have to get one now.
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 7:19:27 AM EDT
Not an AK fan, but that's purdy.
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 7:41:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/19/2005 8:13:18 AM EDT by Noname]
FAL parts (on second glance it looks like a R4 folder...)

HK parts

AR parts...



Oh Shit...!

Link Posted: 8/19/2005 7:43:19 AM EDT
I'll take 2
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 7:43:53 AM EDT
Pardon me, is that a Tapco stock you are wearing?
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 7:44:49 AM EDT
Mounting a sight on the dust cover is a shitty idea.
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 7:45:55 AM EDT
Love the mag! Where can I get one?
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 7:47:07 AM EDT

Originally Posted By psychotr:
Mounting a sight on the dust cover is a shitty idea.



I was goig to say that, I've owned really nice tight fitting aks, you can't get it that tight to put a sight there is stupid
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 7:51:40 AM EDT

Originally Posted By psychotr:
Mounting a sight on the dust cover is a shitty idea.



The rail for mounting optics is not on the dust cover. Only the open HK rear sight is on the dust cover, which is no big deal.

I like it. Definitely an improvement over past variations I've seen.
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 7:52:21 AM EDT
does it finally have a bolt-hold open device for when the magazine gets empty? If not, I'll pass.
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 7:55:45 AM EDT
The HK rear sight stinks compared to the AR sight. Putting it on the rear dustcover is silly anyway, as that part is loose on even the best AKs. That is why Kalashinkov put the sight up on the gas block.

Link Posted: 8/19/2005 7:56:34 AM EDT
Blasphamy! Aks are SUPPOSED to be ugly! I love my Romanian AK with wooden furniture! I would never dress it up all pretty-like with plastic.
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 7:57:26 AM EDT
The sight base isn't mounted on the dust cover. It's mounted forward of the cover where the rear sight normally is located on a standard AK. Since this model uses an HK type rear sight, that freed up this area for the optics base. That area is much more sturdy and stable than the dust cover.

BTW, that's a really nice rifle. So long as it doesn't cost $1000 or $1200, I'd be greatly interested.
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 8:05:07 AM EDT
Polished turd.

I love my AKs, but I also see them for what they are. Cheaply made rifles, designed to be utterly reliable, while sacraficing accuracy, fit, and finish.

That one does look really cool, but I doubt it will ever match a decent, basic AR for accuracy, and considering that good maintenance will keep an AR running well, I doubt this is much more than a high priced toy for people who want something cool looking and different. Like me.
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 8:07:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
The sight base isn't mounted on the dust cover. It's mounted forward of the cover where the rear sight normally is located on a standard AK. Since this model uses an HK type rear sight, that freed up this area for the optics base. That area is much more sturdy and stable than the dust cover.

BTW, that's a really nice rifle. So long as it doesn't cost $1000 or $1200, I'd be greatly interested.



The optical base is mounted on the gas block.

The iron sight is mounted on the cover.

There is a reason that Kalashnikov didn't put the iron sights back there.
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 8:09:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By joker581:
Polished turd.

I love my AKs, but I also see them for what they are. Cheaply made rifles, designed to be utterly reliable, while sacraficing accuracy, fit, and finish.



I disagree entirely.

I own a VEPR-II. It is made well, has good fit and finish, and is an extremely accurate rifle. And it cost a little more than half what my Bushmaster cost.

The AK is an excellent rifle when done properly. It is just not as ergonomic or versatile when it comes to mounting stuff on it as the AR platform.

Link Posted: 8/19/2005 8:09:16 AM EDT
I think AKs look better muddy and all banged up. But that's just me.
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 8:09:59 AM EDT

Originally Posted By joker581:
Polished turd.


+1
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 8:10:59 AM EDT
That AK is as ghey as they come.

Why do idiots believe that adding parts from many different rifles to theirs somehow makes it cool?
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 8:11:03 AM EDT
Heres the link over to Lightfighter where the pic and others were first posted

lightfighter.net/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/7206084761/m/7571049751
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 8:12:31 AM EDT
Fugly.
I don't know who first said it, but don't Tapcoize your AK.
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 8:13:42 AM EDT

Originally Posted By JimTh:
Fugly.
I don't know who first said it, but don't Tapcoize your AK.




TAPCOIZE! Holy shit that's funny.
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 8:14:54 AM EDT


To each his own.

I like my AK's to be AK's.

I don't feel the need to add to them.

I like them for what they are.

Do what ya want.

Link Posted: 8/19/2005 8:15:19 AM EDT

Originally Posted By JimTh:
Fugly.
I don't know who first said it, but don't Tapcoize your AK.



Yeah, man. Puttin' more functional / ergonomically efficient parts and accurizing fifty year old technology is crazy, just crazy.

Suddenly, I may be in the AK market. Where can I get one??
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 8:18:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:

Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
The sight base isn't mounted on the dust cover. It's mounted forward of the cover where the rear sight normally is located on a standard AK. Since this model uses an HK type rear sight, that freed up this area for the optics base. That area is much more sturdy and stable than the dust cover.

BTW, that's a really nice rifle. So long as it doesn't cost $1000 or $1200, I'd be greatly interested.



The optical base is mounted on the gas block.

The iron sight is mounted on the cover.

There is a reason that Kalashnikov didn't put the iron sights back there.



48thHighlander (the guy who made it) discussed this at Lightfighter...


Rear sight offers improved shooting over the standard due to the sight radius and sight picture and the top cover is rock solid. We were going to use a tensioning set screw like Krebs does, but there was no need. Most Euro top covers are solid as a rock. The Galil has no provision for this either and does fine.

The next one has an HK front end. This one was made from scraps lying around for CHEEP.

Link Posted: 8/19/2005 8:18:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 0123456789:
That AK is as ghey as they come.

Why do idiots believe that adding parts from many different rifles to theirs somehow makes it cool?





Ever since J.M. Browning died, this pretty much has been SOP on designing new firearms...
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 8:18:42 AM EDT
I like the doll diving board on the top.
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 8:23:19 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Noname:

Originally Posted By 0123456789:
That AK is as ghey as they come.

Why do idiots believe that adding parts from many different rifles to theirs somehow makes it cool?





Ever since J.M. Browning died, this pretty much has been SOP on designing new firearms...



Yeah - I mean, we'd be much better off with the very first, original AR design than the one we have now.

Innovation - bad.

Never progressing - good.



Link Posted: 8/19/2005 8:34:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By garandman:

Originally Posted By Noname:

Originally Posted By 0123456789:
That AK is as ghey as they come.

Why do idiots believe that adding parts from many different rifles to theirs somehow makes it cool?





Ever since J.M. Browning died, this pretty much has been SOP on designing new firearms...



Yeah - I mean, we'd be much better off with the very first, original AR design than the one we have now.

Innovation - bad.

Never progressing - good.







It is kinda funny how these "20 Minute Purists" pick and choose at what point development/progression stops and anything they don't like or agree with is heresy.

Link Posted: 8/19/2005 8:44:59 AM EDT
I like it.
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 8:48:07 AM EDT
Interesting design.
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 9:14:30 AM EDT
I like it.
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 9:44:28 AM EDT
I like it.
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 9:58:58 AM EDT
I've seen coyotes. They're not that color at all.
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 9:59:23 AM EDT
I wonder what the pricetag on that is. I like it.
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 10:04:33 AM EDT

Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:

Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
The sight base isn't mounted on the dust cover. It's mounted forward of the cover where the rear sight normally is located on a standard AK. Since this model uses an HK type rear sight, that freed up this area for the optics base. That area is much more sturdy and stable than the dust cover.

BTW, that's a really nice rifle. So long as it doesn't cost $1000 or $1200, I'd be greatly interested.



The optical base is mounted on the gas block.

The iron sight is mounted on the cover.

There is a reason that Kalashnikov didn't put the iron sights back there.



+1

Link Posted: 8/19/2005 10:05:17 AM EDT
I like it.
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 10:07:15 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 0123456789:
That AK is as ghey as they come.

Why do idiots believe that adding parts from many different rifles to theirs somehow makes it cool?



You say that now. But wait till Toad Bailey gets THIS bad boy into production.



Link Posted: 8/19/2005 10:34:04 AM EDT
Nobody here is looking at the feature on this rifle that, in my eyes, makes it totally bitchin'.

Observe:



Extended magazine release. Now you can release your AK mags without having to wrap your hand all the way around the front of the magazine! Hells yeah! Where can I obtain one of these rad little catches?

(I honestly can't seem to find an actual LINK to the Grenadier Precision page, just some lame little phoblog that poses as a product gallery)

Besides, I think that HK91 rear diopter is a great idea. I'd like to try one out on my 74.
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 10:40:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/19/2005 10:42:11 AM EDT by garandman]

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

Originally Posted By 0123456789:
That AK is as ghey as they come.

Why do idiots believe that adding parts from many different rifles to theirs somehow makes it cool?



You say that now. But wait till Toad Bailey gets THIS bad boy into production.

groups.msn.com/_Secure/0RAAAAO0SYWqqVf45KU1ddqavp!a84fP2i3KFwiTjnkvW­aWTVg51GGkxx0bAlLdc7l7pRPI*h!xpuUO8nEdAusZuJG­XROhedMvWgn6IYKsKw/SW2003.JPG




The FalArAK HaugKSig91

I want one!!!!!

Link Posted: 8/19/2005 10:43:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/19/2005 10:54:59 AM EDT by Gamma762]
I like it. Something like that might interest me in getting an AK. I wonder about making the gas block (?) with a short section of picatinny rail instead of the rear sight attachment... would make a nice mounting point for an aimpoint on a low ring. Don't forget a galil-esque thumb safety

And how about a simple rear sight with a flip aperture like an A1 or FAL para rear sight?

ETA: don't care for the trick mag release, seems counter-intuitive and easily snagged.
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 10:45:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/19/2005 10:52:22 AM EDT by Jeeter]
IM SOLD!


Has anyone successfult put an ACOG or EOTec on an AK before?
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 10:51:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/19/2005 10:52:11 AM EDT by Fat_McNasty]
But I dont thing any of you have noticed that us common people will ever be able to get our hands on one...

Short barrel..... Check
Fun switch.... Check
Evil 3rd hole with pin.... Check

They could cost $49.99 and you still would not be able to get it (unless your a SOT dealer).
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 11:09:40 AM EDT
Looks like Stevie Wonder welded that site onto the receiver cover
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 11:31:42 AM EDT
It should also be noted that this rifle was put together with parts they had laying around the shop...
Link Posted: 8/19/2005 11:46:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MeanSteve:
Nobody here is looking at the feature on this rifle that, in my eyes, makes it totally bitchin'.

Observe:

grenadierprecision-photos.com/~photos/tn/1448_1024.ts1123641776000.jpg

Extended magazine release. Now you can release your AK mags without having to wrap your hand all the way around the front of the magazine! Hells yeah! Where can I obtain one of these rad little catches?

(I honestly can't seem to find an actual LINK to the Grenadier Precision page, just some lame little phoblog that poses as a product gallery)

Besides, I think that HK91 rear diopter is a great idea. I'd like to try one out on my 74.



www.grenadierprecision.com+

Both of the owners/deisgners are members here:

48thHighlander (Darren)

MisterJG (Jesse)

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