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Posted: 1/6/2006 3:39:17 AM EDT
THE NEW YORK POST
January 6, 2006

ILLEGAL GUNS: CONGRESS' JOB
By CHARLES SCHUMER & HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON

MURDERS like those of NYPD Det. Dillon Stewart and Det. Daniel Enchautegui remind us of the enormous sacrifice made by the brave men and women committed to protecting us and our communities. Whenever one of our courageous police officers is murdered, we are forced to reexamine whether we have done everything within our means to ensure the safety of those who risk their lives to protect us.

Sadly, Det. Stewart's shooting death brought home once again the deadly consequences of allowing stolen handguns to make their way into the wrong hands. Det. Stewart was killed when a suspect who had run a red light suddenly opened fire on his police car, hitting Stewart in the heart.

As is sadly too often the case, that gun had been obtained illegally in another state.

The gun had been stolen in Florida six years before killing Stewart, and had been used in another crime only six months before. Yet the theft was never reported to the National Tracing Center of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF), which maintains a database that helps law enforcement trace and stop illegal-gun trafficking.

This is a tragic story that inspires anger, sadness and a sense of urgency. Law-enforcement agencies ought to have all the tools and resources they need to prevent such crimes. And Congress ought to stand squarely with police officers as they do the difficult and dangerous work of fighting gun crimes, tracking illegal weapons and keeping our streets and neighborhoods safe for our families.

Sadly, Congress isn't doing all it can to support our police in their service. Shamefully, it recently made the jobs of our police officers more difficult and dangerous.

The National Tracing Center database is an essential resource for law enforcement. Beyond enabling law enforcement to trace the history of a gun linked to a crime, it helps identify patterns of gun theft and trafficking. And that information can help local law enforcement — like the NYPD — in stopping illegal guns before they're used to commit crimes.

For instance, if police report a stolen gun used in a crime in New York to the ATF, local law enforcement could learn where that gun was first sold, and whether other guns sold by the same dealer were used in other crimes in other states. This helps law enforcement identify sources of "crime guns" so that they can cut the supply off at the source.

Yet the NYPD — along with every other branch of law enforcement in the nation — is being denied the information needed to get illegal guns off our streets: There is no requirement that stolen guns or guns used to commit crimes be reported to the National Tracing Center database.

New York state has a law requiring New York law enforcement to report guns used in crimes to the federal database for tracing — but the vast majority of states have no such requirement.

Worse, an obscure provision (surreptitiously passed into law in 2003 via an appropriations bill with little note or debate) requires that much of this vital gun tracing information — information that could save lives — be kept secret from the public and off-limits to police officers as they track guns used to kill police officers like Officer Stewart.

As a result, officers can only trace guns after they're used to commit a crime, and are shut off from information about other guns, sold by the same dealer and used in other crimes in other states.

This does nothing to address the larger problem of the countless illegal guns already on our streets.

From 1988 to 2003, 92 percent of the illegal handguns recovered in New York City came from out of state. Stopping the flow of illegal guns into the Empire State is essential to ending the gun violence on our streets. We are therefore pressing our colleagues in both the Senate and the House to repeal the senseless law that handcuffs law enforcement and the public from having full access to the ATF gun-tracing database.

Likewise, we ask that our colleagues join us in demanding the mandatory reporting of stolen guns and guns used in crime to the ATF database for tracing.

Sitting idly by while more New Yorkers are gunned down with illegal and stolen guns is unacceptable. Passing laws that actually hinder the efforts of police officers who are putting their lives on the line is a disgrace.

We cannot wait until someone is killed again to find out who is putting these guns on the street. Officer Stewart died in service to our community. We ought to honor his service and sacrifice by doing all we can to prevent similar murders from happening again.
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 3:47:39 AM EDT
Aren't illegal guns already aginst the law? Maybe I'm confused. Are we supposed to ban the "wrong people" from posessing "illegal guns"?

Oh, by the way....

Democrats are stupid.

Thank you for your attention.
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 4:00:54 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 4:05:22 AM EDT
...ready for retirement.
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 4:07:11 AM EDT
..doomed to go down in defeat, regardless of their opponents, if they take this tack.

Rick
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 4:34:41 AM EDT
...Marxists.
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 5:01:54 AM EDT
I am not at all clear on what they want is "magically" going to stop anyone from bringing ANY gun into their state...someone help me out here?
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 5:26:20 AM EDT
I don't know how the rest of you feel but I'm so pissed at the residents of NY state for placing these two idiots in congress that I really don't give a shit about that state. If they'd kept them at home in their state legislatures that would be one thing, but to give them power over the rest of us is totally unforgivable.
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 5:34:48 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Bubblehead597:
I am not at all clear on what they want is "magically" going to stop anyone from bringing ANY gun into their state...someone help me out here?





Call the Union Hall for this one, Local 392, Amalgamated Brotherhood of Fairy Fucking Godmothers, Tooth Fairies, and Magic Wand Wavers of North America, AFL/CIO.
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 5:50:22 AM EDT
Worse, an obscure provision (surreptitiously passed into law in 2003 via an appropriations bill with little note or debate) requires that much of this vital gun tracing information — information that could save lives — be kept secret from the public and off-limits to police officers as they track guns used to kill police officers like Officer Stewart.

Not if they get a warrent.
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 6:01:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By gigmike:
I don't know how the rest of you feel but I'm so pissed at the residents of NY state for placing these two idiots in congress that I really don't give a shit about that state. If they'd kept them at home in their state legislatures that would be one thing, but to give them power over the rest of us is totally unforgivable.



Don't look at me, I voted nay and I don't even remember who the republican was!
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 6:04:21 PM EDT
The gun had been stolen in Florida six years before killing Stewart, and had been used in another crime only six months before. Yet the theft was never reported to the National Tracing Center of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF), which maintains a database that helps law enforcement trace and stop illegal-gun trafficking.

Was it in the NCIC?
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 6:15:29 PM EDT
... a$$holes...
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 6:15:36 PM EDT
Unfortunately the fools that will perpetually vote these bozo's into public office are too stupid to see all the holes in the 'reasoning' of the essay.

What difference would it have made if the gun had have been reported stolen? It only makes a difference once the gun has it's numbers run and then is taken away from the criminal. Wanna bet the perp had done time before? Wanna bet he was out on early parole or something similar ? Wanna bet he loves 'soft on criminals' dems ?

rj
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 6:29:24 PM EDT
The real problem is that 7 out of 10 people arrested for gun crimes in New York City are LET GO BY LIBERAL JUDGES. That's right, only 3 out of 10 ever do time for gun crimes.

And they think WE are the problem?
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 6:36:18 PM EDT
As I said in another thread "interstate gun crime " is gonna be the new buzzword
you heard it here first
gonna go after gunshows and private transfers
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 6:47:52 PM EDT
...are too stupid to understand. A criminal shot this police officer. A criminal illegally used a gun to murder someone. A criminal is someone who doesn't obey laws, any law or any number of laws you enact on the same thing. That's why their called criminals. Maybe we should punish criminals for a change. I think that's an idea we should try first. That and shooting a few more of them.

Interesting how criminals think. San Diego had a rash of car jackings when the whole carjacking thing started. Guy tried to jack a fellow, who kept a 9mil under his front seat, with a buck knife. When ordered from his car the driver shot him 4 time before he could even start to fall to the ground. San Diego county went from 8 carjackings in the previous month to zero for the next three months and then 1 for the two after that.
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 6:48:33 PM EDT
The DEBILLLL !!!1!!



Ohh wait...............



That's Hank



Sorry.... nothing to see here.

Link Posted: 1/6/2006 6:56:48 PM EDT
...just passing time until the mothership returns for them.
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 7:05:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/6/2006 7:06:47 PM EDT by The_Macallan]

Originally Posted By rjay:
Wanna bet the perp had done time before?
Wanna bet he was out on early parole or something similar ?
Wanna bet he loves 'soft on criminals' dems?


Suspect Allan Cameron is taken by cops yesterday

Thug arraigned in cop shootings
Allan Cameron, 27, of Brooklyn, said nothing during a brief appearance in Brooklyn criminal court, where he was arraigned on charges including first-degree murder and attempted murder.

Cameron — a suspect in the wounding an off-duty officer in a holdup on Nov. 19 — was arrested early Monday after allegedly shooting and killing a patrolman who tried to stop him for running a red light.

The officer, Dillon Stewart, had no reason to believe the motorist was wanted in the earlier shooting. But investigators said it may explain why Cameron responded so violently, allegedly firing five shots into a patrol car driven by Stewart as it pulled alongside his own vehicle.

Authorities said Cameron already was on probation after pleading guilty to misdemeanor charges stemming from two traffic incidents in early 2003.

In the first, police tried to pull him over for failing to use his turn signal; he allegedly sped away, running through several red lights before being caught.

In the second, he allegedly struck a sergeant with a sideview mirror while failing to stop at a police checkpoint.

This year, in April, Cameron was arrested for trespassing; details of the incident were not immediately known. He pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct and was ordered to perform three days of community service, authorities said.

Finally, Philadelphia Police Inspector William Colarulo said Cameron has been wanted there since 2003 for failure to appear to answer charges of aggravated assault, simple assault, reckless endangerment, resisting arrest and criminal mischief.

Colarulo said the charges stemmed from an incident on March 7, 2003, but declined to give any details.

A spokesman for the New York City probation department, Jack Ryan, said the alleged offenses were serious enough that the department had recommended that Cameron be denied probation in 2003.



But it's the gun's fault.

Ban the gun, free the thugs.



Link Posted: 1/6/2006 7:08:08 PM EDT
socialist pieces of crap.
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 7:17:23 PM EDT
Charles Schumer and Hillary Rodham Clinton are:

domestic enemies
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 8:06:08 PM EDT
....soon to be my ex-senators?
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 7:20:42 AM EDT

Originally Posted By gigmike:
I don't know how the rest of you feel but I'm so pissed at the residents of NY state for placing these two idiots in congress that I really don't give a shit about that state. If they'd kept them at home in their state legislatures that would be one thing, but to give them power over the rest of us is totally unforgivable.



Both of your U.S. Senators are Democrats and voted YES to renewing the Assault Weapon Ban. They support their fellow Democrat Schumer and the Democrats anti-gun policies.
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 7:28:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By rkbar15:

Originally Posted By gigmike:
I don't know how the rest of you feel but I'm so pissed at the residents of NY state for placing these two idiots in congress that I really don't give a shit about that state. If they'd kept them at home in their state legislatures that would be one thing, but to give them power over the rest of us is totally unforgivable.



Both of your U.S. Senators are Democrats and voted YES to renewing the Assault Weapon Ban. They support their fellow Democrat Schumer and the Democrats anti-gun policies.



Ouch!!!!!
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 7:31:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/7/2006 7:32:29 AM EDT by cmjohnson]
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 7:36:33 AM EDT

Originally Posted By drjarhead:
Charles Schumer and Hillary Rodham Clinton are:

domestic enemies terroists




I fixed it for you
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 7:37:21 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Rick_Lind:
..doomed to go down in defeat, regardless of their opponents, if they take this tack.

Rick




Then why do they keep getting relected?
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 7:43:24 AM EDT


Yup, some of us saw this coming.

They lost their asses trying this from the fed level down so the new tactic is to get STATE level pushes going. They've introduced carbon copy "assault weapons" bans in many states, they've introduced .50 cal bans, they've pushed their gun grabbing shit every chance they've gotten and so far only Arnold () bought it and signed a .50 ban. I can't think of a single victory they've had since that.

Now they're getting Boobberg and others to start the drumbeat that it's not THEIR problem, it's those OTHER states with their freedoms and evil gun loving laws that are causing people in the Socialist Workers Paradise of NY to be exposed to danger.



I "hate" very few things in this world but I am feeling OUTRIGHT RAGE at these socialst fucktards and their blantant attempt to shove their agendas up our asses.
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 8:56:42 AM EDT
Charles Schumer and Hillary Rodham Klinton are enemies of the State.
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