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Posted: 2/5/2017 11:04:05 PM EDT
Ok so I want to buy a quality cast iron pan but I'm pretty ignorant in terms of what to get.  I've read some stuff on here indicating current manufacture pans are not of the same quality as they used to be.  I'm not too concerned about the cost, I just want one that is the best and I can have forever.  What should I get and where should I get it? What questions should I ask and what should I look for in a pan considering it will likely be used?
Link Posted: 2/5/2017 11:05:08 PM EDT
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you're better off buying a new Lodge skillet. and using a wirebrush to smooth it. then re season it.
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Link Posted: 2/5/2017 11:08:23 PM EDT
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you're better off buying a new Lodge skillet. and using a wirebrush to smooth it. then re season it.
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This is cheapest and easiest.
Link Posted: 2/5/2017 11:10:03 PM EDT
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you're better off buying a new Lodge skillet and using a wirebrush to smooth it. then re season it.
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A wire brush is not going to cut it.  It was taking forever and I switched to a flap disk pad.  Went quick then.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000VRSR1Q  

Another option is to buy an antique pan off ebay or craigslist.  If I could go back I would of gone that route
Link Posted: 2/5/2017 11:11:48 PM EDT
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Very very nice, you did that with a wire wheel?  What type, mine was coming out nothing like that with wire.
Link Posted: 2/5/2017 11:12:45 PM EDT
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Get an old one.
Link Posted: 2/5/2017 11:14:33 PM EDT
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Old Griswold or Wagner. It will be money well spent.
Link Posted: 2/5/2017 11:19:20 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/5/2017 11:37:45 PM EDT
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A lot of the old ones are thin and suck compared to new ones that are thicker.

Surfaces don't really matter as long as it is seasoned right.
Link Posted: 2/5/2017 11:43:28 PM EDT
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I tried to like cast iron for years.....Never lived up to the legend.  

Carbon steel is lighter, smoother, seasoned in pretty much the exact same way.....And requires a lot less babying.

Here is an excellent primer on brands, and how awesome they are.  Carbon steel has been used in European pans and Chinese Woks forever....for a good reason.
Equipment Review: Best Carbon-Steel Skillets (Can This One Pan Do It All?) & Our Testing Winner
Link Posted: 2/5/2017 11:55:47 PM EDT
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Start here OP then find an antique or junk shop in your area and start looking for some Cast Iron skillets.

Looking for them is part of the fun. 

Identifying Old Cast Iron Pans
Link Posted: 2/5/2017 11:56:06 PM EDT
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Lodge is fine. You have to season them and learn to take proper care of them.
A rule of thumb is to never use soap on them. There are plenty of seasoning Youtube flicks.
We always filled then wit suet and put them in a camp fire for the night. Wash them out with plain water.
Iron is great to cook with and the possibilities are endless.
Link Posted: 2/6/2017 12:06:58 AM EDT
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I was looking at those, too much for what they are in my humble opinion. there are a lot of "too thin and flimsy" wagner, griswold and lodge cast iron pans that have stood the test of time
Link Posted: 2/6/2017 12:11:05 AM EDT
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Is that the only difference? The smoothness of the metal?
Link Posted: 2/6/2017 12:12:51 AM EDT
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A wire brush is not going to cut it.  It was taking forever and I switched to a flap disk pad.  Went quick then.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000VRSR1Q  

Another option is to buy an antique pan off ebay or craigslist.  If I could go back I would of gone that route
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I was leaning towards the antique route but I don't know what the differences are.  I don't know anything about these so I'd rather go to a reputable dealer if they're out there
Link Posted: 2/6/2017 12:14:51 AM EDT
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I have soon of the 1990's wagner.  If money waas not a problem, I would get a set of these.  https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M7Y9QY5
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How do these compare quality wise to others?  I'm a frugal person but I believe in buy once cry once.  I don't care about $150 if it's something I can pass on to my kids in 40 years
Link Posted: 2/6/2017 12:17:15 AM EDT
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Is that the only difference? The smoothness of the metal?
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The older ones were typically thinner and lighter as well. I have several Lodge and they work just fine. I am not sure what all this fuss is about with sanding and what not. Just cook with the damn things. Wash however you want, and give it a polish of oil. 
Link Posted: 2/6/2017 12:17:31 AM EDT
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Look for a Griswold or Wagner. Clean re-season and use it. They are far better than Lodge.
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I was leaning towards the antique route but I don't know what the differences are.  I don't know anything about these so I'd rather go to a reputable dealer if they're out there
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aside from the historical aspect so near as I can tell what people really prize in the older cast iron pans is the satin smooth finish back when companies took the time to sand the pieces smooth at the factory.
Link Posted: 2/6/2017 12:21:58 AM EDT
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Look for a Griswold or Wagner. Clean re-season and use it. They are far better than Lodge.
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Far better?  Cast iron doesn't differ that much.  End result of food ends up the same, too.
Link Posted: 2/6/2017 12:28:04 AM EDT
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After some cleanup with Avanti quick strip disks, my Lodges get it done

Link Posted: 2/6/2017 12:28:07 AM EDT
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OP, just get a Lodge.


A lot of people here will tell you to get a Griswald or Wagner.
The thought of old American manufacturing makes people buy them.

But your going to pay for an antique.

The Lodges will be thicker and retain heat better.
When it comes down to rough vs smooth, it doesn't matter too much.
It will eventually smooth itself by cooking with it.

A LOT of people on arfcom over think the simplest of things.
Link Posted: 2/6/2017 12:34:27 AM EDT
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OP, just get a Lodge.


A lot of people here will tell you to get a Griswald or Wagner.
The thought of old American manufacturing makes people buy them.

But your going to pay for an antique.

The Lodges will be thicker and retain heat better.
When it comes down to rough vs smooth, it doesn't matter too much.
It will eventually smooth itself by cooking with it.


A LOT of people on arfcom over think the simplest of things.
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this, and if you're really hung up about wanting it smooth, a grinder, a paddle sander disk and less than an hour of work and you can halve the thing smooth as can be.
Link Posted: 2/6/2017 12:43:23 AM EDT
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this, and if you're really hung up about wanting it smooth, a grinder, a paddle sander disk and less than an hour of work and you can halve the thing smooth as can be.
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And,,,,,,,,,,,,ready for the trash can.
When seasoned and used a few times, it will look like a jet black smooth, slick surface. Don't sand it, scrub it, or anything else it. If you find an old one, have it sand blasted and start from scratch.
Link Posted: 2/6/2017 12:59:55 AM EDT
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And,,,,,,,,,,,,ready for the trash can.
When seasoned and used a few times, it will look like a jet black smooth, slick surface. Don't sand it, scrub it, or anything else it. If you find an old one, have it sand blasted and start from scratch.
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actually no, I sanded smooth a lodge skillet last year just to try it out, sanded it nice and smooth and reseasoned it, it's held up just fine
Link Posted: 2/6/2017 1:08:10 AM EDT
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I bought a cheap shitty one from a no-name brand where you can obviously tell something's off.
Still works pretty well, and stays nonstick if I do things properly.

Get a lodge, and sand/grind it if you're pedantic about having a smooth surface. You don't need to sand it to have a good skillet though.
Link Posted: 2/6/2017 1:26:19 AM EDT
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De Buyer carbon steel pan.  Watch their cleaning video as well, I have several cast iron pans that I love but the carbon steel is much better.
Link Posted: 2/6/2017 3:43:31 AM EDT
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I have a shit load of cast iron simply because I enjoy looking for it. I have a few of each major brand, and use them all the time. I have never sanded or wire brushed any of them and they all will fry nonstick 'Don"t waste time and effort
for something that doesn't make any difference.
Link Posted: 2/6/2017 3:45:31 AM EDT
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Old Griswold or Wagner. It will be money well spent.
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this right here.
Link Posted: 2/6/2017 4:04:01 AM EDT
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I have a shit load of cast iron simply because I enjoy looking for it. I have a few of each major brand, and use them all the time. I have never sanded or wire brushed any of them and they all will fry nonstick 'Don"t waste time and effort
for something that doesn't make any difference.
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I like a 1/4 of whatever I've cooked with on my pan. I use warm water and kosher salt to clean mine after cooking with them and then apply some flax seed oil or whatever and warm it. It's not rocket surgery.
Link Posted: 2/6/2017 4:20:59 AM EDT
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We have several newer Lodge pans.  I use soap and water to clean them and they pretty much get re-seasoned with use.   You might be overthinking this.
Link Posted: 2/6/2017 4:23:28 AM EDT
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Carbon steel is lighter, smoother, seasoned in pretty much the exact same way.....And requires a lot less babying.
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if you had to 'baby' your cast iron, you were doing something seriously wrong.  

cooking with CI: turn burner on highest setting.  wait.  when skillet smokes (or glows), add oil.  put anything that needs cooking on top of the oil.  wait.  when thing that needed cooking is done, take it out of skillet.  while skillet is still hot, hit it with some water (AKA 'deglazing'), and scub for 4 seconds.  rinse.  set on warm burner to dry.  eat thing that needed cooking.

CI is one small step removed from caveman cooking.  if you somehow managed to make it complicated, that's your fault, not the pan's.
Link Posted: 2/6/2017 5:01:42 AM EDT
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Make it work for you.



I know for sure mine has never been used to melt lead for bullets or fishing weights.
Link Posted: 2/6/2017 5:01:44 AM EDT
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I bought a Griswold #8 and LOVE it.
Link Posted: 2/6/2017 5:05:55 AM EDT
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Lodge is fine. You have to season them and learn to take proper care of them.
A rule of thumb is to never use soap on them. There are plenty of seasoning Youtube flicks.
We always filled then wit suet and put them in a camp fire for the night. Wash them out with plain water.
Iron is great to cook with and the possibilities are endless.
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This!  I have old and new. You can also use sandpare if necessary. Although all of mine were smooth.
Link Posted: 2/6/2017 5:07:02 AM EDT
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actually no, I sanded smooth a lodge skillet last year just to try it out, sanded it nice and smooth and reseasoned it, it's held up just fine
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And,,,,,,,,,,,,ready for the trash can.
When seasoned and used a few times, it will look like a jet black smooth, slick surface. Don't sand it, scrub it, or anything else it. If you find an old one, have it sand blasted and start from scratch.


actually no, I sanded smooth a lodge skillet last year just to try it out, sanded it nice and smooth and reseasoned it, it's held up just fine


Same here, I can't stand the rough factory finish.  They work so much better after a good sanding.
Link Posted: 2/6/2017 5:12:15 AM EDT
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Make it work for you.

http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt101/edb_2009/DSC_0927_zpsf1a5b786.jpg

I know for sure mine has never been used to melt lead for bullets or fishing weights.
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Looks like it has been scrubbed with soap and steel wool. Gotta get that thing dirty!  
Link Posted: 2/6/2017 5:45:36 AM EDT
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The older ones were typically thinner and lighter as well. I have several Lodge and they work just fine. I am not sure what all this fuss is about with sanding and what not. Just cook with the damn things. Wash however you want, and give it a polish of oil. 
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I almost threw mine away until I finally sanded it with my angle grinder. I bought a lodge. Once smoothed it is awesome 
Link Posted: 2/6/2017 5:48:14 AM EDT
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If you don't care about name, but want quality for a lower price and still have an old skillet, search ebay for BSR which is Birmingham Stove and Range.

Anything made before the 60's will not have "made in USA" on it.
Link Posted: 2/6/2017 7:39:04 AM EDT
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Cast iron is best iron

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Link Posted: 2/6/2017 7:44:49 AM EDT
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If you ever get the opportunity stop at the Lodge outlet on I-24 in South Pittsburg, TN. They have all of their inventory in stock and often have overstock markdowns and such; also a great selection of marked down factory seconds.
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Damn nice collection!
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How do these compare quality wise to others?  I'm a frugal person but I believe in buy once cry once.  I don't care about $150 if it's something I can pass on to my kids in 40 years
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You will be able to pass on the Lodge too.

The only functional difference is how smooth the bottom and sides are, something you can fix with an hour of hard work. I used a drill and one of those drill bits with abrasive pads on it.

Also, finding the pan you want to use takes some experimentation.  You won't end up with just one.  Buying antiques is going to add up.

Go to your local farm store, Cabellas or something and pick out one that suits your stove and cooking now. (Single? Family? What do you cook on? What do you cook?)  Grind on it a bit to give it a better finish and then just use it to season. (Cook greasy stuff in it.)

Go from there.
Link Posted: 2/6/2017 7:50:17 AM EDT
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Get a quality cladded stainless steel skillet. More responsive, more conductive and more evenness. Cast iron has cheapness going for it - unless you think you need an antique piece.
Link Posted: 2/6/2017 7:54:24 AM EDT
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Get a quality cladded stainless steel skillet. More responsive, more conductive and more evenness. Cast iron has cheapness going for it - unless you think you need an antique piece.
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No, just no.  I have those, I have debuyer mineral iron pans, I have cast iron.  None of them cook the same way, I'd recommend the mineral iron pans over any stainless steel shit in a second.
Link Posted: 2/6/2017 8:07:08 AM EDT
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From what I remember of the video on the Lodge website, their products are made from smelting scrap steel.  I'm not a metallurgist, but it did make me wonder if that qualified as "cast iron".  
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No, just no.  I have those, I have debuyer mineral iron pans, I have cast iron.  None of them cook the same way, I'd recommend the mineral iron pans over any stainless steel shit in a second.
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sure. If you like less even heating, tomato sauces that taste like a tin can and ugly pans. To each their own.
Link Posted: 2/6/2017 8:13:24 AM EDT
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sure. If you like less even heating, tomato sauces that taste like a tin can and ugly pans. To each their own.
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No, just no.  I have those, I have debuyer mineral iron pans, I have cast iron.  None of them cook the same way, I'd recommend the mineral iron pans over any stainless steel shit in a second.
sure. If you like less even heating, tomato sauces that taste like a tin can and ugly pans. To each their own.


I cook plenty in my ceramic coated pans. If I'm searing meat, SS sucks, mineral iron and cast iron work great, better heat retention makes for better searing. For any cooking that doesn't involve a good sear, the SS crap is fine.
Link Posted: 2/6/2017 8:19:43 AM EDT
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A cladded pan with a thick enough layer of aluminum will retain heat similarly to cast-iron, and heat waaaay more even; with none of the BS that comes with cast iron.

There is nothing my cast iron pans do better than my stainless pans... Dont get the hype.

Tell me how your red wine pan sauce came out after deglazing the meat you just seared in cast iron or carbon steel.
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