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Posted: 6/29/2002 7:02:56 AM EDT
Cashless Society 'Inevitable;' a Boost to Globalist Taxers? Wes Vernon, NewsMax.com Saturday, June 29, 2002 WASHINGTON – Money won’t be around anymore in just a few years, according to trend watchers. And the same globalist taxers that are already trying to confiscate your hard-earned money can’t wait for the cashless era to begin. Leading the pack is the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), which issued a recent report hailing the prospect. NewsMax.com last year exposed the OECD’s scheme to penalize countries that offer (comparatively) low taxes. Nations that cut taxes and thereby boost their economies are supposedly unfair to Europe's socialist welfare states. If This Is 'Harmony' ... The argument is not that the welfare states should position themselves so as to be more competitive by also lowering their own tax rates. Rather it is the low-tax countries that are viewed as "unfair.” Thus, in the interest of seeing that everyone shares the misery, all countries must "harmonize” their tax policies; i.e., the low-tax countries should get with it and raise their taxes too. This supposition by the Paris bureaucrats at OECD raises all kinds of economic and sovereignty questions. After NewsMax.com pursued this issue last year, Treasury Department bureaucrats lost out to the Bush appointees. Secretary Paul O’Neill scrubbed some of the worst aspects of the "pro-harmonization” plans left over from the Clinton administration. The widely expected onset of a "cashless society” raises concerns, not so much because of the idea itself, but because of some of those now promoting it. "The cashless society is coming,” says Riel Miller, an author of the OECD report. And the sooner the better, as far as he is concerned. That in turn, has raised suspicions on the part of people who otherwise welcome the idea. Eileen Ciesla, Warren Brookes Fellow in Journalism at the Competitive Enterprise Institute, sees some merit in the cashless society, given that we already do so many of our transactions without cash. 'Suspect' "But I’m a little suspect of the OECD pushing this notion, given the fact that they’ve had a history of endorsing projects favoring the EU [European Union],” at the expense of the United States, she told NewsMax. For example, what if someone decides that the "cashless society” would lend itself to facilitating the OECD goal of getting at the wallets of those "undertaxed” Americans? The idea of the cashless society has been around for decades. Even back in the 1960s, as bank cards were beginning to come into vogue, it was clear the trend was already on the horizon. But the cashless society now envisioned goes beyond that. It would involve a digital system of currency where people can exchange credits and debits by computer "just as they would pass a $20 bill from one wallet to another,” explained an article June 20 in the Toronto Globe and Mail. The issue, then, is not whether the cashless society is coming, but how it will be administered and toward what ends. Some of its cheerleaders are in fact trusted by advocates of free enterprise. Potential for Good
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In his book "The End of Money,” Richard Rahn, a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute, notes positive potential for a society without coins or dollar bills or even writing checks. Under this system, according to a 1999 review of the book in the Wall Street Journal, "you choose which transactions you wish to be on record and which you wish to be anonymous.” "This world is not science fiction but the world that increasing numbers of people will come to enjoy over the next couple of decades,” the Journal stated. Indeed, prosperous Singapore is planning to rid its system of "old-fashioned money” by 2008. In his own comment on Rahn’s "The End of Money,” Empower America co-founder Jack Kemp says the author "persuasively argues how the coming digital money revolution will make lower tax rates and radical tax simplification inevitable.” If it works out that way, few would have any problems with a cashless society. One can hope that when it emerges, it will be just as Rahn and Kemp foresee it. What makes some observers wary is that others whose histories are suspect also see a cashless society working to their advantage. Easier to Collect (and Raise) Taxes Miller, the co-author of the OECD report "The Future of Money,” looks forward to a digital system that will "make it easier for government to collect taxes,” according to the Globe and Mail. That raises red flags, given OECD’s obsession with boosting taxes to a level it deems "fair.” Privacy Under Attack Already, as Ciesla of the Competitive Enterprise Institute pointed out to NewsMax, the globalist bureaucracy has pressured seven Carribean nations into agreeing to change their financial privacy laws so that the international bureaucrats can rummage around in private accounts. Failure of sovereign nations to bend their privacy laws, the Paris bureaucrats had warned, would result in sanctions. The fact that OECD welcomes a plan whereby collecting taxes would be made easier and the fact that this same OECD favors the EU in its disputes with the United States are troubling for another reason: the "savings tax initiative.” American 'Vassal Tax Collectors' for European Socialists This scheme is described by Dan Mitchell, senior fellow at the Heritage Foundation, as "a tax harmonization proposal that would require American financial institutions to act as vassal tax collectors for Europe’s welfare states.” Again, the EU wants the U.S. and other relatively low-tax countries to get with it and get with their high-tax program. The savings tax initiative, Ciesla told NewsMax, "sort of underlies some of the OECD’s projects. It’s sort of motivating the OECD with their own harmful tax harmonization initiative.” Attack on U.S. Sovereignty
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Link Posted: 6/29/2002 7:04:09 AM EDT
The Paris bureaucrcy, she says, is "trying to override some of our own agencies and challenge the authority of the Congress … in the area of regulation and taxation. In that way, they’re a threat” to the U.S. Which brings us back to the cashless society. A few questions: Would a world without money work to the convenience of international bureaucrats who want to "make it easier for government to collect taxes” to get their hands on your dollars despite the wishes of Congress? To what extent will legitimate economic, sovereignty and privacy concerns be satisfied? Will this system make it easier for someone to plunder your bank account? These and other questions enter the mix in the discussion of "a world without money.” As in all things, "the devil is in the details.” Advocates of free enterprise and low taxes are convinced they need to get in on the ground floor of the debate.
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Originally Posted By VA-gunnut: That is when the barter system will regain popularity in this country.
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Well obviously this "barter system" you speak of will be banned.
Link Posted: 6/29/2002 7:10:45 AM EDT
How will you stop a UN tax when it is made illegal to get paid for work in any manner other than direct deposit into your "cash card" account? Heck, how would we avoid paying such a thing right now if they rolled it into the already almost impossible to avoid direct withholding system. The average person couldnt. I think I'm going to go clean my guns and wait for the revolution. yee haw.
Link Posted: 6/29/2002 7:11:20 AM EDT
Oh yeah, no cash sure will make it easy to close up that pesky private sale "loophole".
Link Posted: 6/29/2002 7:13:31 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Jetlag:
Originally Posted By VA-gunnut: That is when the barter system will regain popularity in this country.
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Well obviously this "barter system" you speak of will be banned.
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And the highest, most severe punishments at first will be laid upon those who attempt to circumvent the 'system', in order to terrify the sheep into following along peaceably. What better way to control the masses. "You have been 'bad', now you cannot eat."
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Link Posted: 6/29/2002 8:11:20 AM EDT
What are we going to do with all those illegal aliens in the USA? They are part of the huge underground economy that they can't be traced because it is strictly based on cash. What about all of the USA currency that is being ciruclated outside of the USA, such as in Panama, Russia? Oh yes, it is easy to do it on a itty-bitty, tiny economy such as Singapore, but scale it up to something like, California? To me, a cashless-society probably a little wishful thinking amoung liberals.
Link Posted: 6/29/2002 8:24:19 AM EDT
Originally Posted By VA-gunnut:
Originally Posted By Jetlag:
Originally Posted By VA-gunnut: That is when the barter system will regain popularity in this country.
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Well obviously this "barter system" you speak of will be banned.
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Of course it will be banned, but you will probably be a criminal already because your guns will be banned by then as well, so who cares if you do some illegal bartering.
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How will you pay your mortgage or rent, how will you buy your food, fuel?? The Berlin wall has fallen!! THEY won!!!
Link Posted: 6/29/2002 8:38:17 AM EDT
I have been thinking about this for awhile and was going to post something. It will not be good for the peons.
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Link Posted: 6/29/2002 8:46:59 AM EDT
Originally Posted By VA-gunnut:
Originally Posted By liberty86: How will you pay your mortgage or rent, how will you buy your food, fuel??
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You don't have to live totally underground, you can still work and use your standard income for the necessities in life and barter for all the other goodies that you like (and probably will be illegal by then).
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And when they decide to use some kind of laser tatoo or chip on the right hand or forehead?? Then what??
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Link Posted: 6/29/2002 9:09:46 AM EDT
I think I read somewhere the majority of US currency circulates outside the US. I think currency will become less and less common and I think it is a bad thing especially if we have "Bank Holidays" like we did in the first half of the century.
Link Posted: 6/29/2002 9:17:07 AM EDT
All your cash are belong to us.
Link Posted: 6/29/2002 9:25:38 AM EDT
"digital cash", pffft. I forsee a great increase in computer science degrees and the purchase of illicit magnetic stripe writers. Man, if you thought there was a market for illegal satellite chips and cable boxes today.... Remember what Neo was doing in for his friends at the beginning of the Matrix? We'll cope, or we'll just start shooting.
Link Posted: 6/29/2002 10:01:27 AM EDT
Seeing as though I have access to a plethora of vacuum furnaces, I'll heat treat or stress relieve your barrels or other components in exchange for.... -T.
Link Posted: 6/29/2002 12:41:50 PM EDT
Heck, we already pay a "users tax" at non-bank ATM's and we pay a "non-bank withdraw tax" at ATM's. We also pay a "users tax" on credit card purchases. Now there is talk of going to a "users tax" on debit card use for purchases.
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