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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - C&R liscense

Guncrazy223

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Posted: 12/15/2001 12:17:47 PM EDT

I finally got a large packet from the BATF yesterday with some books and papers in it. What I don't see is a liscense of any type. THere are forms for change of address liscenses and theft loss forms. THere is also a sheet about ordering more forms. THere was a sheet stating that the safety book is backordered, but nothing with a liscense number on it. My questions are; does the liscense come later? is it one of the things i have to order off of that order form? I would like to be able to send out copies of it to some places, how long after I get the packet do I get the liscense? I'm sure some of you guys know how this works. Thanks. Guncrazy223

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Kharn Member Joined Nov 2000 Posts 722 EE 100% (9) MD, USA	Posted: 12/15/2001 12:26:15 PM EDT The liscense will come within the next two weeks, they mail it seperately (from a different location, IIRC, Texas for the liscense, DC for the packet). Kharn

Guncrazy223 Member Joined Jun 2001 Posts 307 EE 0% (0) OH, USA	Posted: 12/15/2001 12:28:19 PM EDT Thanks.... I couldn't have gotten an answere that fast if I had called the batf. THis place is great.
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EOD_Guy Member Joined Feb 2001 Posts 154 EE 0% (0) CA, USA	Posted: 12/15/2001 12:43:00 PM EDT Actually, the license comes from Atlanta and the publications come from Springfield, VA. Texas is just the place that collects the money for the license fees. They forward the application to Atlanta.

blkbeard Joined Nov 2000 Posts 135 EE 100% (6) OH, USA	Posted: 12/15/2001 12:59:39 PM EDT Kinda curious.... Does a C&R license give the BATF the ability to search your home at any time they choose? Thought I saw that somewhere in the rules and regs.

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Posted: 12/15/2001 1:20:36 PM EDT

You're lucky you got in under the wire. I jsut received a mailing (I think to all FFLs) that the BATF has not been receiving/opening mail for a while now. blkbeard - I think they are allowed to "inspect" your premises - and you of course have to have the bound book listing all the weapons that you have received on your FFL. I'm not quite sure what they are allowed to inspect, since most C&R holders do not have a separate "business premise", so they may technically be allowed to inspect your entire house. My impression is that on the extremely rare occasion that a C&R FFL gets inspected, they give you plenty of advanced warning and are generally accomodating and courteous. Of course, given the current climate, and the fact that I am not a US citizen, they'll probably be storming my house with a SWAT team and a couple of tanks when they come to inspect me. [:)] Just kidding - I HOPE!

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TapperMan Joined Sep 2001 Posts 11 EE 0% (0) WI, USA	Posted: 12/15/2001 1:57:26 PM EDT No, no home inspections. They can inspect your books, but you have the option of having the inspection at your place or the ATF office.

03shooter Joined Apr 2001 Posts 433 EE 100% (4) OK, USA	Posted: 12/15/2001 1:58:40 PM EDT Just a heads up to save you some trouble if you don't already know. DO NOT sign your original license. You have to make copies of it and sign each one in ink. Enjoy and prepare to stay broke! [:D]

TheWind Member Joined Apr 2001 Posts 687 EE 0% (0) NJ, USA	Posted: 12/15/2001 7:26:08 PM EDT Who did you call to get the packet?
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Attman Member Joined Nov 2000 Posts 506 EE 100% (5) NE, USA	Posted: 12/15/2001 7:40:57 PM EDT Originally Posted By DK-Prof: You're lucky you got in under the wire. I jsut received a mailing (I think to all FFLs) that the BATF has not been receiving/opening mail for a while now. View Quote Shit, I sent mine in 3 1/2 weeks ago. It's probably not even delivered yet. Guncrazy223 - When did you send your's in?
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Guncrazy223

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Posted: 12/15/2001 8:38:49 PM EDT

The Wind "Who did you call to get the packet? " I downloaded the forms off of the batf's web site. You just download the pdf files then print two copies on legal sive paper, fill them out, give one to your chief LEO and send the other one in to the BATF. Attman "Shit, I sent mine in 3 1/2 weeks ago. It's probably not even delivered yet. Guncrazy223 - When did you send your's in? " It was about 6 weeks ago. Guncrazy223

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bobeaser Joined Apr 2001 Posts 152 EE 0% (0) OH, USA	Posted: 12/15/2001 9:12:12 PM EDT Just received everything for my C&R. What type of bound book are you exactly talking about. Let me in on what I need to do. You guys tell it easier to understand than the legal foreign language.

Cazador223 Member Joined Mar 2001 Posts 33 EE 100% (3) NV, USA	Posted: 12/15/2001 9:25:11 PM EDT About 4 days after receiving my C&R I started receiving the packets at the rate of 1 a day for 4 weeks, I got a big run around trying to stop them from mailing any more. Tom

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Posted: 12/15/2001 9:33:43 PM EDT

Originally Posted By bobeaser: Just received everything for my C&R. What type of bound book are you exactly talking about. Let me in on what I need to do. You guys tell it easier to understand than the legal foreign language.

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You should probably double check this for accuracy before using: [url]http://origin.me.gatech.edu/~weage/firearms/blank_boundbook.xls[/url]

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DK-Prof

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Posted: 12/15/2001 10:39:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By bobeaser: Just received everything for my C&R. What type of bound book are you exactly talking about. Let me in on what I need to do. You guys tell it easier to understand than the legal foreign language.

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Actually when you look up the specific rules for the "bound book" in that big thing of rules and stuff they sent you, it's pretty clear. I think the specific rule is 27 CFR 178.125(f) Essentially it's just an A/D (acquisition/disposal I think) record for all the firearms you will receive/tranfer from your new FFL. I just have one page per firearm, and I list manufacturer, model, serial#, type, caliber. Then I list (under receipt) what date I received it, and who shipped it to me. Under disposal I would list the date and who I sent it to - hypothetically, because I have no intention of EVER getting rid of any of them. I don't know if I am recording too much or not, but I figure that with all of that I should definitely be covered. I also keep a backup copy of the same information on my Palm (just in case).

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HiramRanger Member Joined Nov 2000 Posts 638 EE 100% (123) USA	Posted: 12/16/2001 4:34:45 AM EDT I also keep a backup copy of the same information on my Palm (just in case). View Quote Dude, what happens when you wash your hands?
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5subslr5 Member Joined Feb 2001 Posts 704 EE 100% (10) OK, USA	Posted: 12/16/2001 4:42:29 AM EDT There's a small ad on the front page of the "Gun List" selling bound books etc. I think I paid something like $18.00. I had looked for years for an ArmaLite AR-18 New-In-the-Box - found one and that moved me to get my C&R.
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5subslr5 Member Joined Feb 2001 Posts 705 EE 100% (10) OK, USA	Posted: 12/16/2001 4:43:57 AM EDT Originally Posted By HiramRanger: I also keep a backup copy of the same information on my Palm (just in case). View Quote Dude, what happens when you wash your hands? View Quote H. Ranger, you write the info on the left palm - the one you don't wash.
	Quemadmoeum gladuis neminem occidit, occidentis telum est.” (A sword is never a killer, it is a tool in the killer’s hands.) Lucius Annaeus Seneca, circa 45 AD

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Posted: 12/16/2001 4:46:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 5subslr5: There's a small ad on the front page of the "Gun List" selling bound books etc. I think I paid something like $18.00. I had looked for years for an ArmaLite AR-18 New-In-the-Box - found one and that moved me to get my C&R.

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18!!! Brownells has them for 3 dollars. Or cheaper if you buy a pack of 10. Stock No. Product Price Qty. 108-006-000 Firearms Record Book $3.00 108-006-010 Firearms Record Book, pkg. 10 $24.40

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5subslr5 Member Joined Feb 2001 Posts 710 EE 100% (10) OK, USA	Posted: 12/16/2001 5:20:39 AM EDT 18!!! Brownells has them for 3 dollars. Or cheaper if you buy a pack of 10. Stock No. Product Price Qty. 108-006-000 Firearms Record Book $3.00 108-006-010 Firearms Record Book, pkg. 10 $24.40 [/quote] "SHIT"
	Quemadmoeum gladuis neminem occidit, occidentis telum est.” (A sword is never a killer, it is a tool in the killer’s hands.) Lucius Annaeus Seneca, circa 45 AD

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