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Posted: 12/12/2013 3:31:34 PM EDT
Cops in Canada spent several minutes wrestling with a woman as several citizens stood around recording with their cameras, criticizing the officers’ aggressive tactics. By the time they finally managed to stick the woman in the back of the car, around the 4:30 mark, one of the officers turns to the crowd and instead of demanding their cameras as evidence, gives a full explanation as to what just had taken place. Surreal. http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2013/12/12/canadian-cops-receiving-international-praise-viral-video-surprising-twist/ Wow. - TS  |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 3:48:54 PM EDT
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That's excellent. Our JBT's sure could use a few lessons from our Friends Up North.
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Posted: 12/12/2013 3:55:35 PM EDT
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Aggressive tactics? Seems fairly gentle to me...
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Posted: 12/12/2013 3:58:32 PM EDT
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That's excellent. Our JBT's sure could use a few lessons from our Friends Up North. Fuck that. If you have to explain "lawful use of force" to stupid, ignorant people---you might as well give up now. If you're the cop, you're never going to convince them that you were in the right and the criminal wrong; if you're the bystander, you're always going to be convinced that the "cops are gestapo and JBT." They just need to continue doing their jobs and just ignore the rest. They're never going to be able to convince stupid people any different. Waste of their time and breath. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 4:01:01 PM EDT
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He did an outstanding job.
The twat with the camera was trying to instigate something or make it look like more than it was. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 4:02:29 PM EDT
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She needs to shut the fuck
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Posted: 12/12/2013 4:03:24 PM EDT
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This time I wish the cop would've beat the snot out of the guy filming.
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Posted: 12/12/2013 4:05:28 PM EDT
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Fuck that. If you have to explain "lawful use of force" to stupid, ignorant people---you might as well give up now. If you're the cop, you're never going to convince them that you were in the right and the criminal wrong; if you're the bystander, you're always going to be convinced that the "cops are gestapo and JBT." They just need to continue doing their jobs and just ignore the rest. They're never going to be able to convince stupid people any different. Waste of their time and breath. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's excellent. Our JBT's sure could use a few lessons from our Friends Up North. Fuck that. If you have to explain "lawful use of force" to stupid, ignorant people---you might as well give up now. If you're the cop, you're never going to convince them that you were in the right and the criminal wrong; if you're the bystander, you're always going to be convinced that the "cops are gestapo and JBT." They just need to continue doing their jobs and just ignore the rest. They're never going to be able to convince stupid people any different. Waste of their time and breath. It's called "community policing". That man, police officer or no, is a member of the community. He is not special. He is not above anyone else, and he is not immune to criticism. By taking a few minutes to speak with other members of the community who were upset by what is a rare and disturbing occurrence, he strengthened his ties to his community instead of severing them by acting as if he is a separate, elevated class who does not have to answer to his fellow citizens. In the heat of the moment those bystanders would be enthralled in their emotional response to a screaming woman, but in retrospect I have no doubt that they, like most people who watch this video, understand that the cop was doing an exemplary job. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 4:05:31 PM EDT
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Fuck that. If you have to explain "lawful use of force" to stupid, ignorant people---you might as well give up now. If you're the cop, you're never going to convince them that you were in the right and the criminal wrong; if you're the bystander, you're always going to be convinced that the "cops are gestapo and JBT." They just need to continue doing their jobs and just ignore the rest. They're never going to be able to convince stupid people any different. Waste of their time and breath. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's excellent. Our JBT's sure could use a few lessons from our Friends Up North. Fuck that. If you have to explain "lawful use of force" to stupid, ignorant people---you might as well give up now. If you're the cop, you're never going to convince them that you were in the right and the criminal wrong; if you're the bystander, you're always going to be convinced that the "cops are gestapo and JBT." They just need to continue doing their jobs and just ignore the rest. They're never going to be able to convince stupid people any different. Waste of their time and breath. Lol. No. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 4:07:53 PM EDT
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You could tell that he had practiced those lines at least a few thousand times and he was biting his tongue while homeboy was attempting to bait him at the end...
That arrest was mild. Very mild. Needs more pepper spray and taser. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 4:11:13 PM EDT
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The cop was trying, but the twat waffle with the camera was trying to instigate something. It's obvious the male cop wasn't having any of it, but watch the female cop, she was ready to shut the camera guy up.
That would have been cool to see and IMHO the camera guy deserved to be curb stomped. 
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Posted: 12/12/2013 4:14:34 PM EDT
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It's called "community policing". That man, police officer or no, is a member of the community. He is not special. He is not above anyone else, and he is not immune to criticism. By taking a few minutes to speak with other members of the community who were upset by what is a rare and disturbing occurrence, he strengthened his ties to his community instead of severing them by acting as if he is a separate, elevated class who does not have to answer to his fellow citizens. In the heat of the moment those bystanders would be enthralled in their emotional response to a screaming woman, but in retrospect I have no doubt that they, like most people who watch this video, understand that the cop was doing an exemplary job. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's excellent. Our JBT's sure could use a few lessons from our Friends Up North. Fuck that. If you have to explain "lawful use of force" to stupid, ignorant people---you might as well give up now. If you're the cop, you're never going to convince them that you were in the right and the criminal wrong; if you're the bystander, you're always going to be convinced that the "cops are gestapo and JBT." They just need to continue doing their jobs and just ignore the rest. They're never going to be able to convince stupid people any different. Waste of their time and breath. It's called "community policing". That man, police officer or no, is a member of the community. He is not special. He is not above anyone else, and he is not immune to criticism. By taking a few minutes to speak with other members of the community who were upset by what is a rare and disturbing occurrence, he strengthened his ties to his community instead of severing them by acting as if he is a separate, elevated class who does not have to answer to his fellow citizens. In the heat of the moment those bystanders would be enthralled in their emotional response to a screaming woman, but in retrospect I have no doubt that they, like most people who watch this video, understand that the cop was doing an exemplary job. 
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Posted: 12/12/2013 4:15:39 PM EDT
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Things might be different in Canada, but there is no way in hell I'm making a statement about a use of force incident to anyone before getting it on paper and officially submitted. That's asking for trouble in court.
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Posted: 12/12/2013 4:18:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's called "community policing". That man, police officer or no, is a member of the community. He is not special. He is not above anyone else, and he is not immune to criticism. By taking a few minutes to speak with other members of the community who were upset by what is a rare and disturbing occurrence, he strengthened his ties to his community instead of severing them by acting as if he is a separate, elevated class who does not have to answer to his fellow citizens. In the heat of the moment those bystanders would be enthralled in their emotional response to a screaming woman, but in retrospect I have no doubt that they, like most people who watch this video, understand that the cop was doing an exemplary job. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: That's excellent. Our JBT's sure could use a few lessons from our Friends Up North. Fuck that. If you have to explain "lawful use of force" to stupid, ignorant people---you might as well give up now. If you're the cop, you're never going to convince them that you were in the right and the criminal wrong; if you're the bystander, you're always going to be convinced that the "cops are gestapo and JBT." They just need to continue doing their jobs and just ignore the rest. They're never going to be able to convince stupid people any different. Waste of their time and breath. It's called "community policing". That man, police officer or no, is a member of the community. He is not special. He is not above anyone else, and he is not immune to criticism. By taking a few minutes to speak with other members of the community who were upset by what is a rare and disturbing occurrence, he strengthened his ties to his community instead of severing them by acting as if he is a separate, elevated class who does not have to answer to his fellow citizens. In the heat of the moment those bystanders would be enthralled in their emotional response to a screaming woman, but in retrospect I have no doubt that they, like most people who watch this video, understand that the cop was doing an exemplary job. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 4:19:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Things might be different in Canada, but there is no way in hell I'm making a statement about a use of force incident to anyone before getting it on paper and officially submitted. That's asking for trouble in court. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 4:23:16 PM EDT
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Geez, they maybe some truth to the whole Canadians are polite stereotype.
Except the guy with the camera, but he sounded French so... |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 4:24:45 PM EDT
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That's excellent. Our JBT's sure could use a few lessons from our Friends Up North. You can video me all day long until you get in my way. Then you're going to jail. 
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Posted: 12/12/2013 4:26:18 PM EDT
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She needs to shut the fuck up |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 4:27:08 PM EDT
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Yeah giving a play by play to libtard camera trolls looks like a stupid idea. Fat girl cop should have backed bystanders back and guy cop should have gotten her cuffed and stuffed without it turning into a Wagner opera.
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Posted: 12/12/2013 4:28:30 PM EDT
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You could tell that he had practiced those lines at least a few thousand times and he was biting his tongue while homeboy was attempting to bait him at the end... That arrest was mild. Very mild. Needs more pepper spray and taser. That's what's wrong with our cops, fuck someone up then decide later weather it was warranted, actually No, even if the facts are against you keep trying to convince everyone it was warranted weather it was or not. Roy |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 4:31:58 PM EDT
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I am confused in how this is a threat. If you speak the truth in both the verbal and written statement, how can that lead to trouble? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Things might be different in Canada, but there is no way in hell I'm making a statement about a use of force incident to anyone before getting it on paper and officially submitted. That's asking for trouble in court. Agency policies about not making statements without Public Affairs approval aside, telling the truth twice and telling the truth exactly the same twice are two very different things. So Officer FreeRider, your statement and use of force report say youused force for x, y, and z reasons. This video taken by a bystander shows you explaining you used force for x and y reasons. Did reason z actually happen or not? There is a reason prepared statements are always used (or should always be used) for anything like this |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 4:32:21 PM EDT
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That's what's wrong with our cops, fuck someone up then decide later weather it was warranted, actually No, even if the facts are against you keep trying to convince everyone it was warranted weather it was or not. Roy Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You could tell that he had practiced those lines at least a few thousand times and he was biting his tongue while homeboy was attempting to bait him at the end... That arrest was mild. Very mild. Needs more pepper spray and taser. That's what's wrong with our cops, fuck someone up then decide later weather it was warranted, actually No, even if the facts are against you keep trying to convince everyone it was warranted weather it was or not. Roy 
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Posted: 12/12/2013 4:33:45 PM EDT
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All of you praising Canada, come to work for me for 1 week...
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Posted: 12/12/2013 4:35:42 PM EDT
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You nailed it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's excellent. Our JBT's sure could use a few lessons from our Friends Up North. Fuck that. If you have to explain "lawful use of force" to stupid, ignorant people---you might as well give up now. If you're the cop, you're never going to convince them that you were in the right and the criminal wrong; if you're the bystander, you're always going to be convinced that the "cops are gestapo and JBT." They just need to continue doing their jobs and just ignore the rest. They're never going to be able to convince stupid people any different. Waste of their time and breath. It's called "community policing". That man, police officer or no, is a member of the community. He is not special. He is not above anyone else, and he is not immune to criticism. By taking a few minutes to speak with other members of the community who were upset by what is a rare and disturbing occurrence, he strengthened his ties to his community instead of severing them by acting as if he is a separate, elevated class who does not have to answer to his fellow citizens. In the heat of the moment those bystanders would be enthralled in their emotional response to a screaming woman, but in retrospect I have no doubt that they, like most people who watch this video, understand that the cop was doing an exemplary job. Yep , I think he showed incredible restraint with the woman/perp that had the crazy. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 4:37:05 PM EDT
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That's what's wrong with our cops, fuck someone up then decide later weather it was warranted, actually No, even if the facts are against you keep trying to convince everyone it was warranted weather it was or not. Roy Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You could tell that he had practiced those lines at least a few thousand times and he was biting his tongue while homeboy was attempting to bait him at the end... That arrest was mild. Very mild. Needs more pepper spray and taser. That's what's wrong with our cops, fuck someone up then decide later weather it was warranted, actually No, even if the facts are against you keep trying to convince everyone it was warranted weather it was or not. Roy I have a lot of specific phrases I use in statements and such. Those phrases explain what I did, how I did it, etc in a manner consistent with agency policy. It's not making stuff up and its not changing facts. You'll be hard pressed to find officers that don't do this. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 4:43:08 PM EDT
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In for the butthurt
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Posted: 12/12/2013 4:44:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck that. If you have to explain "lawful use of force" to stupid, ignorant people---you might as well give up now. If you're the cop, you're never going to convince them that you were in the right and the criminal wrong; if you're the bystander, you're always going to be convinced that the "cops are gestapo and JBT." They just need to continue doing their jobs and just ignore the rest. They're never going to be able to convince stupid people any different. Waste of their time and breath. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That's excellent. Our JBT's sure could use a few lessons from our Friends Up North. Fuck that. If you have to explain "lawful use of force" to stupid, ignorant people---you might as well give up now. If you're the cop, you're never going to convince them that you were in the right and the criminal wrong; if you're the bystander, you're always going to be convinced that the "cops are gestapo and JBT." They just need to continue doing their jobs and just ignore the rest. They're never going to be able to convince stupid people any different. Waste of their time and breath. That this video has gone viral proves you entirely wrong. It's a refreshing and wanted change in LE behavior. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 4:47:27 PM EDT
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Canada.
Where local cops explain why they cuffed a whackadoodle up, while the RCMP Is simultaneously kicking in doors for guns after a flood 
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Posted: 12/12/2013 4:52:34 PM EDT
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Isolated incident!
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Posted: 12/12/2013 4:54:26 PM EDT
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Can't breathe? How are you screaming so much?
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Posted: 12/12/2013 5:00:29 PM EDT
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Those cops did nothing wrong, and could have used a little more force and be justified. I arrested a woman acting the same way, I maced her. End of story.
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Posted: 12/12/2013 5:02:16 PM EDT
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I have a lot of specific phrases I use in statements and such. Those phrases explain what I did, how I did it, etc in a manner consistent with agency policy. It's not making stuff up and its not changing facts. You'll be hard pressed to find officers that don't do this. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You could tell that he had practiced those lines at least a few thousand times and he was biting his tongue while homeboy was attempting to bait him at the end... That arrest was mild. Very mild. Needs more pepper spray and taser. That's what's wrong with our cops, fuck someone up then decide later weather it was warranted, actually No, even if the facts are against you keep trying to convince everyone it was warranted weather it was or not. Roy I have a lot of specific phrases I use in statements and such. Those phrases explain what I did, how I did it, etc in a manner consistent with agency policy. It's not making stuff up and its not changing facts. You'll be hard pressed to find officers that don't do this. I'm sure you do, It's called Double speak. "Roy, did you adjust the thermostat? I adjusted it as required." What exactly am I saying? Yes, No? Did I even touch it? Same way cops and lawyers talk. Roy |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 5:04:08 PM EDT
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This time I wish the cop would've beat the snot out of the guy filming. I'm usually down for a good cop bashing thread, but two things stand out to me. 1) That cop was great. 2) That guy filming was a douche. Needed some hickory shampoo and the police department should be looking to get this officer on their PR team. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 5:04:14 PM EDT
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The guy who took the law class needs a hickory shampoo. What an asshole. That cop should get a commendation for not punching that asshole in the mouth. Did I say that he's an asshole? No? He's an asshole.
The female cop needs a new career sharpening crayons or perhaps collecting sanitary napkins. She tactically touched the girl's ankle. Ninja move, for sure. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 5:11:24 PM EDT
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He did a great job handling that.
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Posted: 12/12/2013 5:50:26 PM EDT
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It's called "community policing". That man, police officer or no, is a member of the community. He is not special. He is not above anyone else, and he is not immune to criticism. By taking a few minutes to speak with other members of the community who were upset by what is a rare and disturbing occurrence, he strengthened his ties to his community instead of severing them by acting as if he is a separate, elevated class who does not have to answer to his fellow citizens. In the heat of the moment those bystanders would be enthralled in their emotional response to a screaming woman, but in retrospect I have no doubt that they, like most people who watch this video, understand that the cop was doing an exemplary job. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's excellent. Our JBT's sure could use a few lessons from our Friends Up North. Fuck that. If you have to explain "lawful use of force" to stupid, ignorant people---you might as well give up now. If you're the cop, you're never going to convince them that you were in the right and the criminal wrong; if you're the bystander, you're always going to be convinced that the "cops are gestapo and JBT." They just need to continue doing their jobs and just ignore the rest. They're never going to be able to convince stupid people any different. Waste of their time and breath. It's called "community policing". That man, police officer or no, is a member of the community. He is not special. He is not above anyone else, and he is not immune to criticism. By taking a few minutes to speak with other members of the community who were upset by what is a rare and disturbing occurrence, he strengthened his ties to his community instead of severing them by acting as if he is a separate, elevated class who does not have to answer to his fellow citizens. In the heat of the moment those bystanders would be enthralled in their emotional response to a screaming woman, but in retrospect I have no doubt that they, like most people who watch this video, understand that the cop was doing an exemplary job. Absolutely! Well said! |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 6:04:03 PM EDT
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Hey Dom, +100 internets to you.
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Posted: 12/12/2013 6:11:10 PM EDT
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I like the guy demanding to know answers while the guy is trying to subdue the bitch. Like he has time to answer his question right the fuck then.
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Posted: 12/12/2013 6:21:58 PM EDT
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Yeah giving a play by play to libtard camera trolls looks like a stupid idea. Fat girl cop should have backed bystanders back and guy cop should have gotten her cuffed and stuffed without it turning into a Wagner opera. It seems to be fairly popular with the public. After all, that is who they serve is it not? |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 6:33:36 PM EDT
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That was a mess.
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Posted: 12/12/2013 6:46:57 PM EDT
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It seems to be fairly popular with the public. After all, that is who they serve is it not? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah giving a play by play to libtard camera trolls looks like a stupid idea. Fat girl cop should have backed bystanders back and guy cop should have gotten her cuffed and stuffed without it turning into a Wagner opera. It seems to be fairly popular with the public. After all, that is who they serve is it not? lol |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 8:58:06 PM EDT
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That "she's just a girl" BS was tiring. Crazy woman is obviously resisting and totally faking it. They went easy on her.
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Posted: 12/12/2013 9:08:15 PM EDT
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Yeah giving a play by play to libtard camera trolls looks like a stupid idea. Fat girl cop should have backed bystanders back and guy cop should have gotten her cuffed and stuffed without it turning into a Wagner opera. Yep.. I"m not gonna stand there and apologize for 10 mins to a bunch of ass hats for doing my job. They didn't want to hear it anyway. No way he could have pleased them.
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Posted: 12/12/2013 9:14:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: All of you praising Canada, come to work for me for 1 week... ETA: Do that crap in an urban area and you're asking for trouble. Ever had bottles thrown at you because you arrested Little Pookie while he was on his way to church/boy scouts, choir practice, job interview, etc? It isn't fun. Put the person in the fucking car and roll out. Don't try to explain what you did to a bunch of instigating assholes. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 9:19:57 PM EDT
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You can tell who has experience in these matters and who doesn't. Sorry but I'm not explaining myself to a bunch of real life trolls. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All of you praising Canada, come to work for me for 1 week... Yep. If the department wants to release a statement after the use of force review, then have at it. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 9:23:13 PM EDT
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Aggressive tactics? Seems fairly gentle to me... This. That was not aggressive by any means. Good on that guy for trying to explain, I do not think he was getting anywhere. I have come to the conclusion that people suck. It does not matter what side of the badge they are on, an over whelming majority (as in 99.99999999999%) of people suck bug time. |
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Posted: 12/12/2013 9:27:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah giving a play by play to libtard camera trolls looks like a stupid idea. Fat girl cop should have backed bystanders back and guy cop should have gotten her cuffed and stuffed without it turning into a Wagner opera. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:39:28 AM EDT
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He did an outstanding job. The twat with the camera was trying to instigate something or make it look like more than it was. Word. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:40:13 AM EDT
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Cameraman is a dick.
"She's a girl" |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:48:47 AM EDT
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Needs more baton.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 1:47:09 AM EDT
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I love the stupid mouth breathers that always have to interrupt a person trying to explain things.
Canadians are pretty polite, cool cop
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