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Posted: 7/17/2001 3:08:20 AM EDT
every move? Like in the movie ENEMY OF THE STATE?

Was this production used as PSYOPS to give the viewers the feeling that they can not resist the almighty federal government, or?

Thoughts on this from the experts on this board are encouraged and welcome!!!!!
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 3:49:06 AM EDT
[#1]
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 3:59:35 AM EDT
[#2]
Garand Shooter,  you're either showing your ignorance or trying to set poor Mr. andreusan up.  

Shame, shame on you.

Andreusan,  

Your tin foil hat has to, as in must, shall, etc.. be folded like a Yankee Doodle hat.

The flat facets help to reflect and reduce it's radar signature.
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 4:07:02 AM EDT
[#3]
Gentlemen,
adreusan suffers from delusions of grandeur.
In previous posts he has even gone so far as to suggest that "millions of people" have been reading his posts, and are learning from them.
He believes himself to be some sort of revolutionary, which (in his mind)is probably much more palatable than the truth- that he is just a lonely fat-guy (or skinny-guy, I haven't decided yet) who spends all his time on the 'net.
It becomes so transparent, when he attempts to pretend that he is knowledgeable.  This is something that you just can't fake.
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 4:12:11 AM EDT
[#4]
He is amusing, I am looking forward to his posts for the comic quality of them. Unfortunately there are those that take him seriously...they scare me!
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 4:13:06 AM EDT
[#5]
Originally Posted By Major Murphy:
Gentlemen,
adreusan suffers from delusions of grandeur.
In previous posts he has even gone so far as to suggest that "millions of people" have been reading his posts, and are learning from them.
He believes himself to be some sort of revolutionary, which (in his mind)is probably much more palatable than the truth- that he is just a lonely fat-guy (or skinny-guy, I haven't decided yet) who spends all his time on the 'net.
It becomes so transparent, when he attempts to pretend that he is knowledgable.  This something that you just can't fake.
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Getting better!
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 4:24:22 AM EDT
[#6]
Thank you.
Which is it, though?
Are you doughy and fat?
Or are you skinny and weak?
I'm trying for the right mental image here.
Please.
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 4:34:20 AM EDT
[#7]
For cripes sake, will the agents monitoring this PU-LEEZE put a link to the spy cams so we don't have to wonder any more about andreusan's profile?  C'mon, you guys got's hunrets o pics of 'im, share.
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 4:36:13 AM EDT
[#8]
I've been a member of AR15.com for over 3 years now and have been on every now and then... I come back, and sure do see a lot of this guy's name... he sure does have a lot of threads started.

Thats all I have to say about that.

M.
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 4:37:23 AM EDT
[#9]
Originally Posted By Major Murphy:
Thank you.
Which is it, though?
Are you doughy and fat?
Or are you skinny and weak?
I'm trying for the right mental image here.
Please.
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Letting your ego, get the best of you??

Just keep asking and flame all you want!!!!
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 4:38:17 AM EDT
[#10]
Originally Posted By Southern Rising:
For cripes sake, will the agents monitoring this PU-LEEZE put a link to the spy cams so we don't have to wonder any more about andreusan's profile?  C'mon, you guys got's hunrets o pics of 'im, share.
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Great idea!!!!!!
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 4:45:29 AM EDT
[#11]
No flame intended.
I'm just curious, from a psychological standpoint.
What shortcoming or failure are you trying to overcompensate for, to overcome, by all of this silly posturing?
Many people are offended by those who adopt a false military status.  I couldn't care less. I'm sure pretending is fun for you, but the extent and effort to which you have gone makes me think that you are rather desperate, and in a lot of pain, mentally.
So, unburden yourself to the good Major.
Maybe it will help.
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 6:24:19 AM EDT
[#12]
andruesen claims to be military?
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 7:08:03 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/17/2001 7:12:52 AM EDT
[#14]
A legitimate question in my opinion. There is
evidence that before the OKC bombing the Feds
were seen in the area with tracking devices looking for a Ryder truck that they had put a
tracking device on.
Lo-jac, GPS can be used to track vehicles and
ships and I would imagine people. Homers are
going from mini to micro I have read in Popular
Mechanics. They can be put in pens, watches,
buttons, earrings...etc.. Micro TV cameras can
be put just about anywhere.
Given what is out in the marketplace I would
give great credience to the government having
smaller more powerful stuff that would be able to emulate what was seen in "Enemy of the State."
I don't understand why all you fat doughy tinfoil hat people can't just answer the question without all the BS that was put forth.

Link Posted: 7/17/2001 7:14:58 AM EDT
[#15]
Originally Posted By Garand Shooter:
You need to wrap yourself head to toe in 4 space blankets to resist our power.... better go do it now!!!!!!
Don't froget to make your tinfoil hat in the shape of a beanie!!!
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DUH DROOL SLURP DUH TINFOIL
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 7:16:24 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Garand Shooter,  you're either showing your ignorance or trying to set poor Mr. andreusan up.  
Shame, shame on you.
Andreusan,  
Your tin foil hat has to, as in must, shall, etc.. be folded like a Yankee Doodle hat.
The flat facets help to reflect and reduce it's radar signature.
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DUH DROOL SLURP TINFOIL DUH ME TO
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 7:20:31 AM EDT
[#17]
Originally Posted By Major Murphy:
Gentlemen,
adreusan suffers from delusions of grandeur.
In previous posts he has even gone so far as to suggest that "millions of people" have been reading his posts, and are learning from them.
He believes himself to be some sort of revolutionary, which (in his mind)is probably much more palatable than the truth- that he is just a lonely fat-guy (or skinny-guy, I haven't decided yet) who spends all his time on the 'net.
It becomes so transparent, when he attempts to pretend that he is knowledgeable.  This is something that you just can't fake.
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Pray tell us Dr. Murphy what school did you
get your degree in psychoanalysis from.
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 7:21:51 AM EDT
[#18]
andreusan,
just live your life as if the govt. can and does  track your every move, phone call, e-mail and thought. if you are so worried about it, you probably have something to hide...if that's the case, they already know about it, and it's only a matter of time before the "no-knock" warrants are issued. bury your illigals, stop inciting revolution, and you should be ok.
p.s. remember, when outdoors, don't look up!
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 7:22:34 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
He is amusing, I am looking forward to his posts for the comic quality of them. Unfortunately there are those that take him seriously...they scare me!
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SCAREDY CAT! MEOW HERE PITY KITTY
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 7:27:11 AM EDT
[#20]
Originally Posted By Major Murphy:
Thank you.
Which is it, though?
Are you doughy and fat?
Or are you skinny and weak?
I'm trying for the right mental image here.
Please.
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Is your head up your ass or your ass up your head, I'm trying to get the correct mental image
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 7:33:48 AM EDT
[#21]
HANGFIRE,
I may not have a degree in Pschology, but your previous posts would indicate that you have more than a few problems.  Try to keep them to yourself, OK?

...and mind the personal insults.  You don't rate to talk to men that way.  It does serve as a painful reminder, however, that here on the board, sometimes we end up associating with white trash like you.
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 7:46:27 AM EDT
[#22]
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 8:23:02 AM EDT
[#23]
How do you guys know he's white?


Hagfire andreusan,  Don't read the next sentence.

[b][size=4] I told you not to read it! [/size=4][/b]


(Reverse monitor/camera gizmo?)
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 8:27:35 AM EDT
[#24]
Yes, they CAN. But only by tracking your posts on the internet. Be careful AndreUsaN.
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 8:32:58 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
every move? Like in the movie ENEMY OF THE STATE?

Was this production used as PSYOPS to give the viewers the feeling that they can not resist the almighty federal government, or?

Thoughts on this from the experts on this board are encouraged and welcome!!!!!
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Yes Andy, it is true. Resistance is futile. You have already been assimilated.
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 8:47:38 AM EDT
[#26]
Let's see, Notify Gobment: If any bank transaction is $10,000 or more. Notify gobment if you buy two or more guns at one time. Postal workers taught to turn in people requesting  money orders that look suspicious. Gobment satellites  listens in on private conversations (programmed words and phrases sent to monitors.) Everything we do has to include your social#. I would say they already are doing it. I would also say that if get's any worse, the  odds are pretty good (ALL) of us at some point will violate one of their conditions of suspect. All part of the Borderless world Klinton and his commie liberals dream about. The gobment is strip mining our rights away everyday more and more to make the NWO happen, (Illinois gun grab latest example,) and apparently some well paid fools think it's funny, I don't! Two generations from now people won't miss what they never had, sorta like them layback take it in the ass socialist Europeans.
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 9:13:02 AM EDT
[#27]
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 9:33:43 AM EDT
[#28]
DK-Prof, I was responding what is to me a serious matter,past posts mean nothing to me. His post gave me the chance to express my concerns, that is all I care about. Your are not the only well paid person on this board, but as the Yankee expression goes, "if the Chinese shoe fits."
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 9:40:50 AM EDT
[#29]
DoubleFeed
Junior Member

TX,  US
14 Posts
Posted - 07/17/2001 :  10:03:34            



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In all of this, I haven't seen it suggested that the primary needs (after providing for physical survival, ie, food) in any SHTF scenario will be recon and intelligence. I have seen a lot on Discovery Wings about some really innovative surveillance equipment that has been developed by the military. Notwithstanding Posse Comitatus , what are the chances that such equipment would be used against a defending force?
Law Enforcement is also fielding a huge amount of nonlethal weapons. As I understand it, these are weapons that were developed specifically to add an extra force option for MOUT operations. Has anybody thought about how a defending force will protect against an agressor (any aggressor) who has the ability to maintain continuous inconspicuous surveillance AND the ability to incapacitate a group with little or no death and little to no warning? What would this ability do to the morale of the defending force?
As I understand it, the strength of such defending forces has always been the ability to project the appearance of near omnipresence, simply because it is extremely hard to track rebels in a citizen population. How does modern technology impact this?
No trolling, just honest questions.
________________________________________________
The above post seems to ask the same question
as Andresuan
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 9:54:26 AM EDT
[#30]
Originally Posted By Major Murphy:
HANGFIRE,
I may not have a degree in Pschology, but your previous posts would indicate that you have more than a few problems.  Try to keep them to yourself, OK?
...and mind the personal insults.  You don't rate to talk to men that way.  It does serve as a painful reminder, however, that here on the board, sometimes we end up associating with white trash like you.
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BREWHAHAHA. You don't like when you are treated
like you treat others. You want civility but
you won't give civility. If you want respect
start treating others with respect.
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 10:04:42 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
Originally Posted By Major Murphy:
HANGFIRE,
I may not have a degree in Pschology, but you previous posts would indicate that you have more than a few problems.  Try to keep them to yourself, OK?

...and mind the personal insults.  You don't rate to talk to men that way.  It reminds us that, here on the board, sometimes we end up associating with white trash like you.
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Well said.

HANGFIRE.  Even if MM does not, I DO have a doctorate in a psychology-related field - and it should be clear to anyone (degree or not) that both you and andreusan have considerable problems that you are trying to compensate for.  (Keep in mind that many of the older members here recall your first days on this forum.)
Btw - you really hurt my feelings with that cutting and witty "fat doughy tinfoil hat types".  I'm going to go cry now because you are so much smarter than me.  [>Q]
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"doctorate in a psychology-related field"
Whats the big secret? Who what when where????
If you are so educated why the infantile comments? Why are you determined to crush
Andreusan?
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 10:07:18 AM EDT
[#32]
as soon as we get suspicious, boom he runs like a little girl...[:O]
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 11:24:29 AM EDT
[#33]
This is just a picture from a eye in the sky of the Mile High stadium in Denver. This is just what they let YOU see, 30 years ago I read that they could count the dimples on a golf ball.

[url]http://www.spaceimaging.com/gallery/ioweek/archive/iow112299/mile1024.gif[/url]

There are a couple of sites that will let you zoom in almost anywhere. I was able to zoom in on the parking lot at work and see people walking in.  Don't look up.....
Ron
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 12:12:21 PM EDT
[#34]
I have been lurking in Andreusan's posts for the last few days now....a few questions:

1. Does he(?) really believe all the paranoid crap he is spewing?

2. Why do most of you find it so hard to        believe he MAY be right?

Seriously...there is a measure of truth to his paranoid delusions...just because he is crazy, doesn't mean he is entirely wrong.

BLACK.........256 shades of gray...........WHITE
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 12:40:46 PM EDT
[#35]
The government keeps track of all of use 24/7/365 and any of you that don't believe that are idiots.  Anyone born after 1965 has an implanted tracking device with a unique signal.  Older people probably have them too.  Many doctors have been trained and paid by the government to implant the devices.  Don't believe me?  Check for yourself.  The device is usually implanted in the large intestine 4-5" from the anal opening.  If it is not there, sometimes it is implanted somewhere in the mouth.  Thoroughly check your gums.  Make sure you do the tests in the order I have presented them to you and always use your right index finger.  Post your results here.
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 1:15:13 PM EDT
[#36]
You first. [:D]
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 2:06:24 PM EDT
[#37]
Since nobody has a right to privacy we should be subject to tracking and monitoring. only criminal want privacy because they have something to hide.

facist lib
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 2:10:24 PM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
Originally Posted By Major Murphy:
HANGFIRE,
I may not have a degree in Psychology, but your previous posts would indicate that you have more than a few problems.  Try to keep them to yourself, OK?
...and mind the personal insults.  You don't rate to talk to men that way.  It does serve as a painful reminder, however, that here on the board, sometimes we end up associating with white trash like you.
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BREWHAHAHA. You don't like when you are treated
like you treat others. You want civility but
you won't give civility. If you want respect
start treating others with respect.
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HANGFIRE, I give respect to those who deserve respect.  I have no respect for you, just as I have no respect for a bum on the street.  The problem here is that you don't know your place.  In the "real world", a cur like you would never have the opportunity to associate himself with many of the gentlemen of this board.  
You should be horse-whipped, and then left in the gutter, where you belong.
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 2:12:59 PM EDT
[#39]
Not that i'm defending andreusan, how about all of his detractors actually disprove his conspiracy theories. to attack only his character (which he may or may not deserve) and not his position does not disprove the information. attacking someones character is a typical leftist tactic in a debate that i tire of. why not help andy by showing him why he is wrong instead of name calling.

not an expert, but an A$$ lib
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 2:15:31 PM EDT
[#40]
Originally Posted By Major Murphy:
Quoted:
Originally Posted By Major Murphy:
HANGFIRE,
I may not have a degree in Psychology, but your previous posts would indicate that you have more than a few problems.  Try to keep them to yourself, OK?
...and mind the personal insults.  You don't rate to talk to men that way.  It does serve as a painful reminder, however, that here on the board, sometimes we end up associating with white trash like you.
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BREWHAHAHA. You don't like when you are treated
like you treat others. You want civility but
you won't give civility. If you want respect
start treating others with respect.
View Quote


HANGFIRE, I give respect to those who deserve respect.  I have no respect for you, just as I have no respect for a bum on the street.  The problem here is that you don't know your place.  In the "real world", a cur like you would never have the opportunity to associate himself with many of the gentlemen of this board.  
You should be horse-whipped, and then left in the gutter, where you belong.
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For a O4 you sure talk an awful lot of sh_t!!

MAJOR NUISANCE IS MORE LIKE IT, IDIOT N.Y FLUNKY!!!
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 2:24:59 PM EDT
[#41]
andreusan, mind your tongue.
A liar and a fraud, like you, should know when to keep silent.
I really do believe that you and HANGFIRE are one and the same.  You share so many of the same character traits.

I should not have even responded to clown(s) like you.  It is fun to debunk a fraud, though.
Good luck with your boring, pitiful, live(s).
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 2:30:33 PM EDT
[#42]
Originally Posted By Major Murphy:
andreusan, mind your tongue.
A liar and a fraud, like you, should know when to keep silent.
I really do believe that you and HANGFIRE are one and the same.  You share so many of the same character traits.

I should not have even responded to clown(s) like you.  It is fun to debunk a fraud, though.
Good luck with your boring, pitiful, live(s).
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Yep, he is a member of the N.Y. BAR TOO!!!
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 3:21:18 PM EDT
[#43]
Originally Posted By Major Murphy:
Quoted:
Originally Posted By Major Murphy:
HANGFIRE, I give respect to those who deserve respect.  I have no respect for you, just as I have no respect for a bum on the street.  The problem here is that you don't know your place.  In the "real world", a cur like you would never have the opportunity to associate himself with many of the gentlemen of this board.  
You should be horse-whipped, and then left in the gutter, where you belong.
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BAHAHAHA, You are really having fun today.
"Cur" "Horsewhipped" "Left in the gutter"
You are "cleaning out your closet." You must live in a very old house. We are all laughing
even the dog!
Link Posted: 7/17/2001 3:24:32 PM EDT
[#44]
Originally Posted By Major Murphy:
I really do believe that you and HANGFIRE are one and the same.  
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Your "belief" further exposes your ignorance!
Link Posted: 7/18/2001 2:58:59 AM EDT
[#45]
Interesting. The guy makes a straightforward post asking for informed opinions.  Some good-natured joking occurs (no problem).

Then a couple of underdeveloped egos show up to make themselves feel temporarily important by trying to put the guy down.  And they pretend that HE's the one with the problem.  

Sounds like arrested development to me.

Presumably these are guys old enough to know better, but they promptly show that age and education don't mean much at least in their case(s).

Ironically, one speculates that his target must be a teenager and therefore immature, when it's obvious that some representatives here of the older generation are worse off in the maturity department by far.

Please say something contributory to the posted question, if that's within your capabilities.

Andreusan and Hangfire - I may disagree with you on other topics, but in this case, when I'm not laughing at the infantile and feeble attempts to put you down,  I think the question posted was legitimate and certainly less far fetched than many other ones that were posted by other people here in the past.


[red][size=3]PRK
Link Posted: 7/18/2001 3:18:55 AM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:
DK-Prof, I was responding what is to me a serious matter,past posts mean nothing to me. His post gave me the chance to express my concerns, that is all I care about. Your are not the only well paid person on this board, but as the Yankee expression goes, "if the Chinese shoe fits."
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This DK PROF: sounds just like some militia watchdog fool!
Link Posted: 7/18/2001 3:21:28 AM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
Originally Posted By Major Murphy:
I really do believe that you and HANGFIRE are one and the same.  
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Your "belief" further exposes your ignorance!
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This maj. and his cohorts give true meaning to, oh, never mind, not worth the effort!!!
Link Posted: 7/18/2001 7:34:40 AM EDT
[#48]
Link Posted: 7/18/2001 8:03:38 AM EDT
[#49]
i think the bottom line here is that conspiracy theories are fun. theories are just that - theories. they do not become fact until proven, nor are they discredited until dis-proven.

there are many on this board who like to theorize, and there are those that jump down their throats for it - personally, i don't see any real harm in it, i mean really guys, does the fact that some people exercise their minds on a regular basis REALLY keep you awake at night???

maybe you just have it in for andre, that's fine, i'm sure you have your reasons, to each his own. but i think that lively debate is a good thing, and as in life, there is rarely a situation that is 100% right, wrong, black or white.

even if you succesfully assassinate his character, call him a liar, or whatever, that does NOT automatically debunk his theories with any credible force. my favorite example is the tragic tale of Galileo - he was called a heretic, scorned, put on trial, publicly hated and forced to commit suicide because he said the Earth revolved around the Sun...

[size=4]BUT HE WAS RIGHT!!![/size=4]
Link Posted: 7/18/2001 8:22:33 AM EDT
[#50]
....yes, but please remember that the enemies of freedom ALWAYS lie, distort facts and use misinformation.  When someone posts something that hints at conspiracy theory, and out of frustration that they're not taken seriously, lies in an attempt to gain credibility....
....they might as well be working for the enemy.  It creates distrust and disharmony.
Integrity and one's reputation should be precious.
For most men, at least.
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