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Posted: 8/1/2005 7:51:44 PM EDT
I had an acquaintance who was born outside the U.S. but claimed that a good friend of the family, and a U.S. Senator, tacked on citizenship for him on some obscure bill. Is this possible? With all the crap that they tack on and the fact that the politicians don't read half the stuff they vote for I would think this is possible. I really need my citizenship (don't ask, long story). I've had my Green Card for a year and I'm supposed to wait for 5 years before I can apply for citizenship, then wait at least another 14-18 months for swearing-in.

If it is possible, then I will also need advice on how to become good friends with a Senator. I think this is going to be the hard part.
Link Posted: 8/1/2005 7:55:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/1/2005 7:56:58 PM EDT by motown_steve]


I guess taking the class, following the process and taking the oath is too much to ask. Have you tried finding some attention starved fat chick and getting married?
Link Posted: 8/1/2005 7:55:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/1/2005 7:56:10 PM EDT by Triumph955i]
you don't need citizenship.

heck, you don't even need a green card.

millions of people skip that process.

enjoy.
Link Posted: 8/1/2005 7:58:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Triumph955i:
you don't need citizenship.

heck, you don't even need a green card.

millions of people skip that process.

enjoy.



Ain't that the truth.
Link Posted: 8/1/2005 7:58:27 PM EDT
I have a feeling you will be denounced and scolded and that this thread will degenerate quickly.


As to helping you with your problem, sorry I don't have anything to offer.
Link Posted: 8/1/2005 7:59:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/1/2005 8:01:41 PM EDT by david_g17]
i've heard it's possible, but didn't know it had to be tacked onto a bill.

just write every democrat senator / house member in the country, and tell them about your plight from oppressive government. send the hardcore liberals 5 or 6 letters.
Link Posted: 8/1/2005 8:01:18 PM EDT
Shit, C-4 why didnt you just say so. I'll marry you.



NOT­!

But just find some woman with her papers and youll be set.
Link Posted: 8/1/2005 8:05:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By C-4:
I had an acquaintance who was born outside the U.S. but claimed that a good friend of the family, and a U.S. Senator, tacked on citizenship for him on some obscure bill. Is this possible? With all the crap that they tack on and the fact that the politicians don't read half the stuff they vote for I would think this is possible. I really need my citizenship (don't ask, long story). I've had my Green Card for a year and I'm supposed to wait for 5 years before I can apply for citizenship, then wait at least another 14-18 months for swearing-in.

If it is possible, then I will also need advice on how to become good friends with a Senator. I think this is going to be the hard part.



Why do you need it so fast? You think CMP is going to run out of Garands before you get naturalized?
Link Posted: 8/1/2005 8:07:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By A_G:
I have a feeling you will be denounced and scolded and that this thread will degenerate quickly.



Yup, you're probably right.
Link Posted: 8/1/2005 8:09:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ARDOC:
Shit, C-4 why didnt you just say so. I'll marry you.



Thanks!



­


Originally Posted By ARDOC:
NOT!



You are such a tease!
Link Posted: 8/1/2005 8:10:24 PM EDT
IIRC, Congress has the power to bestow Citizenship.
Link Posted: 8/1/2005 8:13:49 PM EDT
Which country are you from?
Link Posted: 8/1/2005 8:15:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By david_g17:
i've heard it's possible, but didn't know it had to be tacked onto a bill.

just write every democrat senator / house member in the country, and tell them about your plight from oppressive government. send the hardcore liberals 5 or 6 letters contribute campaign contributions.




There ya go.

A more effective route.
Link Posted: 8/1/2005 8:20:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By motown_steve:


I guess taking the class, following the process and taking the oath is too much to ask. Have you tried finding some attention starved fat chick and getting married?



Getting married to a U.S. citizen will only cut the wait to 3 years instead of five.
Link Posted: 8/1/2005 8:20:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
Which country are you from?

Quote from his profile:

Board Certified M.D. in my specialty. I live for my wife, God, shooting, fishing and hunting. Not always in that order! I'm a permanent resident (Green Card) holder originally from Canada. I love the U.S. and I've finally found my home.
Link Posted: 8/1/2005 8:21:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/1/2005 8:22:17 PM EDT by CavVet]
I thought it was only done through a private bill. And yes you need a Senator/Congressperson to introduce it. Must pass both Houses in same form and signed by POTUS.

"For the relief of......."



Link Posted: 8/1/2005 8:27:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CavVet:
I thought it was only done through a private bill. And yes you need a Senator/Congressperson to introduce it. Must pass both Houses in same form and signed by POTUS.

"For the relief of......."






+1
Link Posted: 8/1/2005 8:28:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mgw1181:

Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
Which country are you from?

Quote from his profile:

Board Certified M.D. in my specialty. I live for my wife, God, shooting, fishing and hunting. Not always in that order! I'm a permanent resident (Green Card) holder originally from Canada. I love the U.S. and I've finally found my home.



You're probably the only person who bothers to look at user info.

From the other posts it sounds like it's possible. I couldn't even tell the Senator that I wouldn't vote for him in the next election and I think the max (legal) contribution is $2000 which may get me a photo op (best case scenario).
Link Posted: 8/1/2005 10:19:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By C-4:
If it is possible, then I will also need advice on how to become good friends with a Senator. I think this is going to be the hard part.



Just become a Mexican, Bush got's your back.
Link Posted: 8/1/2005 10:42:12 PM EDT
The Army needs doctors, and will fast track it.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 3:46:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/2/2005 3:47:44 AM EDT by Jack19]

Originally Posted By motown_steve:


I guess taking the class, following the process and taking the oath is too much to ask.Have you tried finding some attention starved fat chick and getting married?



That's what I was thinking.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 3:56:05 AM EDT
You might be able to accelerate your citizenship process by joining the military...

Why would you "need" citizenship? I can understand wanting it, but as a green card holder you enjoy pretty much all of the benefits except for voting, serving on a jury, and possession of a US passport for travel purposes.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 3:57:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By OFFascist:

Originally Posted By C-4:
If it is possible, then I will also need advice on how to become good friends with a Senator. I think this is going to be the hard part.



Just become a Mexican, Bush got's your back.



LOL! Too true.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 4:02:50 AM EDT
IIRC, Elizabeth Taylor married a U.S. Senator, John Warner, and soon got her son, from a previous marriage, U.S citizenship through a bill introduced by Warner. It was a private bill that the congress passes dozens (possibly hundreds) every year, without much scrutiny.

Taylor’s son could not go through the “official” process to get U.S. citizenship due to a drug conviction in his native England.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 4:21:45 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Garand_Shooter:
The Army needs doctors, and will fast track it.



Yep, its almost a few week process if you are active duty, however technically you would have to be a citizen first prior to commissioning as a Capt/LT to be a military MD. But as a MD, they would probably wave that.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 4:32:26 AM EDT
Don't know how to help you C4, but I do wish you the best of luck. You sound like a decent cat.

We need physicians, especially in rural areas. Are you of service age? You might be able to get a reserve commission and serve a certain committment for citizenship.

I know for a fact that there are programs like that for enlisted.

Let me know if you want info and I'll send you some.

Regards.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 5:45:30 AM EDT
A call from a Senator can expedite your paper work through INS mucho rapido. Don't ask me how I know.

GunLvr
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 9:09:43 AM EDT

Originally Posted By topknot:
Don't know how to help you C4, but I do wish you the best of luck. You sound like a decent cat.

We need physicians, especially in rural areas. Are you of service age? You might be able to get a reserve commission and serve a certain committment for citizenship.

I know for a fact that there are programs like that for enlisted.

Let me know if you want info and I'll send you some.

Regards.



Thank you for the kind words. Right now I am working in a rural area. I actually travel to two different towns (Mon & Wed) because they don't have a specialist there in my field and spend the other three days a week + call in a small city.

I'm going to look into the military option.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 9:13:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Parrandero:

Originally Posted By motown_steve:


I guess taking the class, following the process and taking the oath is too much to ask. Have you tried finding some attention starved fat chick and getting married?



Getting married to a U.S. citizen will only cut the wait to 3 years instead of five.



Getting married to a US citizen makes you eligible for a green card (resident alien) which he already has. It will happen within a few months but the card will be conditional for two years (if the marriage ends, GC ends at the end of the 2 years).
After 2 years the conditional status is removed and the GC is permanent.
Then you can wait the 5 years and apply for citizenship.

Marriage has no bearing on citizenship, it confers residency.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 9:18:00 AM EDT
Just sit tight, and remain employed. You'll be a citizen soon enough. Patience.

BTW - Why do you want your citizenship so fast? As it's been posted, you can currently enjoy most of the benefits of US citizenship as it is. Hell, we even let you buy guns. Why the hurry?
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 9:35:13 AM EDT

Originally Posted By C-4:
...I really need my citizenship (don't ask, long story). ...



Ah, let me guess... you have family here illegally and you need citizenship to sponsor them so they may obtain their green cards.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 9:36:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By stator:

Originally Posted By C-4:
...I really need my citizenship (don't ask, long story). ...



Ah, let me guess... you have family here illegally and you need citizenship to sponsor them so they may obtain their green cards.



You don't need citizenship to "sponsor". A resident alien can petition for a foreigner.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 5:14:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By stator:

Originally Posted By C-4:
...I really need my citizenship (don't ask, long story). ...



Ah, let me guess... you have family here illegally and you need citizenship to sponsor them so they may obtain their green cards.



Actually, the only family I have in the U.S. either have Green Cards themselves or are already U.S. Citizens.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 5:36:46 PM EDT
A private bill provides benefits to specified individuals (including corporate bodies). Individuals sometimes request relief through private legislation when administrative or legal remedies are exhausted. Many private bills deal with immigration–granting citizenship or permanent residency. Private bills may also be introduced for individuals who have claims again the government, veterans benefits claims, claims for military decorations, or taxation problems. The title of a private bill usually begins with the phrase, "For the relief of. . . ." If a private bill is passed in identical form by both houses of Congress and is signed by the President, it becomes a private law.

www.senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/d_three_sections_with_teasers/bills.htm
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 5:51:40 PM EDT
+10 on joining the armed forces as an MD. What a better way to show how much you care about becomming an American citizen.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 6:36:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By rkbar15:
A private bill provides benefits to specified individuals (including corporate bodies). Individuals sometimes request relief through private legislation when administrative or legal remedies are exhausted. Many private bills deal with immigration–granting citizenship or permanent residency. Private bills may also be introduced for individuals who have claims again the government, veterans benefits claims, claims for military decorations, or taxation problems. The title of a private bill usually begins with the phrase, "For the relief of. . . ." If a private bill is passed in identical form by both houses of Congress and is signed by the President, it becomes a private law.

www.senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/d_three_sections_with_teasers/bills.htm



Thanks! I'm sure I won't go 'that route', but that is a very interesting read.

So what are the chances of using one of these private bills to repeal NFA 1934 for just me?
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 11:07:26 PM EDT
What's the hurry? Yeah, it's a long story, but we've got plenty of time. BTW, even with Mil service, you still need 3 years. Just hang out fo a few more years and then file a N-400. Apllication to interview is less than 90 days. Wanna ask how I know?
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 11:11:22 PM EDT
Isn't Canada the 51st state?

Link Posted: 8/3/2005 6:56:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MisterPX:
What's the hurry? Yeah, it's a long story, but we've got plenty of time. BTW, even with Mil service, you still need 3 years. Just hang out fo a few more years and then file a N-400. Apllication to interview is less than 90 days. Wanna ask how I know?



I am not sure if that is true anymore, starting last year military members were placed on a fast track for citizenship. One of my Marines was a Vietnamese national (granted lived in this country for a while) he applied for citizenship as soon as the new law went into effect in Oct and I believe it took something like 2 or 3 months till he got sworn in.
Link Posted: 8/4/2005 8:06:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ARDunstan:
Isn't Canada the 51st state?




If it is I just wasted a lot of time and money and suffered unnecessary brain damage filling out form after form and submitting them in the proper sequence to the proper location. Getting biometric ID, international CIA and FBI background check etc etc...

Shit man! All I needed was new plates and switch my drivers license!
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