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Posted: 7/21/2010 8:34:03 AM EDT
Gonna be at the beach. Want to carry. Pocket carry in shorts is my only option, I can't really wear jeans on the beach.
I'm thinking lotta lube and extreme cleaning and lube afterwards. Maybe a plastic bag if I must. Anybody have experience on what salt water does to blued or chromed metal? If I clean it right afterwards will it have time to corrode? ETA: TIA and 
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Posted: 7/21/2010 8:35:26 AM EDT
[#1]
I bet it'll be ugly. Plastic bag if you have to.
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Posted: 7/21/2010 8:37:34 AM EDT
[#2]
I can't answer the salt water question, but a good ziplock bag will keep it dry.
I recently went canoeing, snorkling, and rough horseplay type swimming with a ziplocked Glock 30 in my pocket. It stayed dry. |
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Posted: 7/21/2010 8:37:45 AM EDT
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ziploc bag it, or vacuum pack it like that arfcommer did with a Glock to hang in the shower.
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Posted: 7/21/2010 8:37:53 AM EDT
[#4]
Hope your pocket has a zipper or button.
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Posted: 7/21/2010 8:38:52 AM EDT
[#5]
Is that a vacuum-packed pistol in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
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Posted: 7/21/2010 8:38:58 AM EDT
[#6]
Sea water can rust stainless steel. I don't know about chrome but blue steel will be AFU in pretty short order if not cleaned properly and quickly. Your ammo will likely be toast. The potential for serious corrosion is very high and the likelyhood of you needing it is very, very low, so I'd suggest not carrying at all and especially not into the water. Get a reasonably inexpensive knife if you really feel the need to go armed.
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Posted: 7/21/2010 8:39:40 AM EDT
[#7]
always wondered how well a weapon would do in saltwater.
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Posted: 7/21/2010 8:39:56 AM EDT
[#8]
find a small pelican case or otterbox that it fits nicely inside....then stick that in your pocket
but a plastic bag would work...and is cheaper |
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Posted: 7/21/2010 8:42:24 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/21/2010 8:42:33 AM EDT
[#10]
dont forget that you're going to need to secure your tinfoil hat so that it doesnt wash away
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Posted: 7/21/2010 8:43:22 AM EDT
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always wondered how well a weapon would do in saltwater. I know a winchester 1300 can spend almost 24 hours at the bottom of the channel with no rust or loss of bluing. It was sprayed with corrosion-x the night before and came out fine. |
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Posted: 7/21/2010 8:44:13 AM EDT
[#12]
Have GF / Wife provide overwatch from the shore. 
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Posted: 7/21/2010 9:03:30 AM EDT
[#13]
Tried with zip lock and a P3AT, bag leaked, oiled it later and function was fine, but corrosion was instant.
Vacuum sealer would be better if you have to, use a thinner one so you can tear through it in a pinch. |
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Posted: 7/21/2010 9:48:39 AM EDT
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If you ziplock it, at least double bag it. We went tubing on the river and things in one ziplock bag got wet. Double bagged stayed mostly dry. Mostly. Triple bag.
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Posted: 7/21/2010 9:57:12 AM EDT
[#15]
Blued KelTecs rust fucking FAST
G26 or knife FTW |
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Posted: 7/21/2010 9:58:15 AM EDT
[#16]
I lived in Virginia Beach for 16 years. I used to carry my 9mm at the beach everyday.
I just wrapped it up in a towel and placed it in my bag. Cleaned as usual and never had any problems. I would not suggest dropping it in the water or the sand, both will be bad. I dropped an 870 in the brackish water of the sound off Knotts Island NC. I was walking through the water trying to get to my hunting spot in the dark. Ran into an underwater tree stump. Lets just say the shotgun was not the only thing that went under the water. It was a parkerized 870, within hours it was solid rust. I cleaned it for hours, inside and out. |
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Posted: 7/21/2010 10:02:18 AM EDT
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I would quickly rinse it with tapwater to get the salt off as quickly as possible.
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Posted: 7/21/2010 10:02:40 AM EDT
[#18]
Mark 23, you have no other options.
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Posted: 7/21/2010 10:04:22 AM EDT
[#19]
I know what salt water doesn't do to a glock.......
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Posted: 7/21/2010 10:06:26 AM EDT
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Does the LCP fit in that little coin pocket that comes in every pair of swim trunks?
You could always borrow your dads trunks and have the air bubbles create a giant swim trunk platform around your body to aid in concealment. |
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Posted: 7/21/2010 10:07:23 AM EDT
[#21]
Would it be possible to fire a gun that is vac sealed?
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Posted: 7/21/2010 10:07:54 AM EDT
[#22]
I bet you'd get better retention with Speedos.
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Posted: 7/21/2010 10:08:06 AM EDT
[#23]
Ok, if you carry it in your pocket, the salt water will damage it. If you vacuum pack it, what good does it do you?
I suggest you get a pack, like this one and put your pistol in that. You won't be shooting from the water anyway. If you did, you'd probably blow the gun up. Keep it dry, keep it close. Hope you have a good time at the beach. |
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Posted: 7/21/2010 10:09:39 AM EDT
[#24]
take a knife
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Posted: 7/21/2010 10:10:12 AM EDT
[#25]
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always wondered how well a weapon would do in saltwater. Ask a SEAL perhaps?  Army has divers too 
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Posted: 7/21/2010 10:11:10 AM EDT
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I had a Mossberg 20 gauge 500 that was in our cottage when Hurricane Ike hit Galveston. We had 15" of saltwater flood our place. The 500 was standing in a closet and got soaked from the recoil pad up to the ejection port.
I drowned it in WD 40 and cleaned the snot out of it. The internal safety mechanism sticks in the on position even though the external button moves freely. At this point, I still can't trust it for use as a self defense gun. |
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Posted: 7/21/2010 10:11:53 AM EDT
[#27]
hammerless revolver in ziplock bag, can be fired from inside the bag.
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Posted: 7/21/2010 10:17:30 AM EDT
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hammerless revolver in ziplock bag, can be fired from inside the bag. Wouldn't just about any modern firearm be able to be fired from inside a air tight or vac sealed bag? |
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Posted: 7/21/2010 10:19:04 AM EDT
[#29]
Tag it and bag it.
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Posted: 7/21/2010 10:21:35 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/21/2010 10:24:18 AM EDT
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hammerless revolver in ziplock bag, can be fired from inside the bag. Wouldn't just about any modern firearm be able to be fired from inside a air tight or vac sealed bag? Yes but..... an auto loader wont cycle too well in a plastic bag |
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Posted: 7/21/2010 10:24:22 AM EDT
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hammerless revolver in ziplock bag, can be fired from inside the bag. Wouldn't just about any modern firearm be able to be fired from inside a air tight or vac sealed bag? Yeah for one shot, a revolver has the capacity to fire multiple shots without the slide getting caught in the baggie EDIT: Damn, 4 seconds |
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Posted: 7/21/2010 10:26:23 AM EDT
[#33]
just stay home in the basement
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Posted: 7/21/2010 10:28:33 AM EDT
[#34]
.380 isn't going to do you any good against a shark.
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Posted: 7/21/2010 10:30:05 AM EDT
[#35]
AR15Fan has done it. He'd be the one to ask.
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Posted: 7/21/2010 10:35:41 AM EDT
[#36]
Swallow and regurgitate!
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Posted: 7/21/2010 10:37:33 AM EDT
[#37]
I wade fish with a G19 in an IWB all the time. The only thing that ever rusts before I can get home for a proper cleaning are the screws on my CompTac Minataur.
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Posted: 7/21/2010 10:38:05 AM EDT
[#38]
Get one of these and put it in your pocket, put the wallet in the bottom, then a magazine and then the pistol on top.
It's really that easy. If it can keep my personal items secure and waterproof during swiftwater rescue evolutions then it can keep a pistol dry for a trip to the beach, lake or river. http://www.paddlerscove.com/dp48cellphonepdagpscasedrybag.aspx  |
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Posted: 7/21/2010 10:40:44 AM EDT
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Get a P226 Navy. They're corrosion resistant. If they're good enough for people who regularly take them into saltwater... they should be better than your other options.
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Posted: 7/21/2010 10:41:27 AM EDT
[#40]
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Sea water can rust stainless steel. I don't know about chrome but blue steel will be AFU in pretty short order if not cleaned properly and quickly. Your ammo will likely be toast. The potential for serious corrosion is very high and the likelyhood of you needing it is very, very low, so I'd suggest not carrying at all and especially not into the water. Get a reasonably inexpensive knife if you really feel the need to go armed. Huh, I've had a SS prop on this boat since 1992 0 rust so far. Although I've had to change the sacrificial zinc's a few times. 
Sorry about that, the edit button is right next to the quote button-joker581 |
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Posted: 7/21/2010 10:43:24 AM EDT
[#41]
Well,I carry my G19 kayaking and it's been dunked plenty of times.It's always rinsed and lubed within a half hour so never had any corrosion problems.
As suggested,you can buy things that will do exactly what you want. Keeping it secure while swimming is going to be another story,especially depending how much of a waterman you are and what you're doing.If you're swimming in waves with it just jammed in a baggie,be prepared for the very good possibility of losing it.Personally,I'd lock it in the car if I was going to a busy,public beach. |
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Posted: 7/21/2010 10:53:54 AM EDT
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Get a P226 Navy. They're corrosion resistant. If they're good enough for people who regularly take them into saltwater... they should be better than your other options. I don't think it'll fit in the pocket of his swim trunks though. |
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Posted: 7/21/2010 11:07:19 AM EDT
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Sea water can rust stainless steel. I don't know about chrome but blue steel will be AFU in pretty short order if not cleaned properly and quickly. Your ammo will likely be toast. The potential for serious corrosion is very high and the likelyhood of you needing it is very, very low, so I'd suggest not carrying at all and especially not into the water. Get a reasonably inexpensive knife if you really feel the need to go armed. Huh, I've had a SS prop on this boat since 1992 0 rust so far. Although I've had to change the sacrificial zinc's a few times. http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/3802/baretta.jpg Isn't that what the zincs are for or do they just prevent galvanic corrosion? Perhaps the different grades of stainless steel rust at different rates or, in some cases, not at all but some certainly do. S30V, for instance, is what my beach knife is made of and it'll rust up like nobody's business. In fact, the S30V knife I've got in my pocket right now has some rust on the blade that I need to clean off when I get home from work. Blood is another thing that will bring on some rust in most stainless knives. My Sig P-226 is allegedly made of stainless steel too and it rusts pretty quickly after exposure to light seawater spray. |
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Posted: 7/21/2010 11:09:43 AM EDT
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hammerless revolver in ziplock bag, can be fired from inside the bag. Wouldn't just about any modern firearm be able to be fired from inside a air tight or vac sealed bag? As long as the vac sealed bag isn't so tight that you couldn't move the trigger, then yes. Exiting the bag will mess with the bullet's flight so I'd only trust it for close shots. |
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Posted: 7/21/2010 11:13:59 AM EDT
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316 is the best marine SS, but it cannot be used to make firearms. If you plan to go swimming, I'd assume the worst and count on it to rust as soon as you got out of the water.
I don't see much use in a 380 at the beach. Is someone going to sneak up and try to mug you? When I go to the beach, the biggest threat are packs of wild horses (380 is useless), varmints, and humans. I feel like I can stay a safe distance away from humans, at least out of 380 range. |
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Posted: 7/21/2010 11:17:50 AM EDT
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I lost all my guns in a tragic swimming accident.
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Posted: 7/21/2010 11:21:09 AM EDT
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um leave it at home/car?
putting it in a bag is hardly going to prove useful in a self defense situation. |
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Posted: 7/21/2010 11:21:37 AM EDT
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Sea water can rust stainless steel. I don't know about chrome but blue steel will be AFU in pretty short order if not cleaned properly and quickly. Your ammo will likely be toast. The potential for serious corrosion is very high and the likelyhood of you needing it is very, very low, so I'd suggest not carrying at all and especially not into the water. Get a reasonably inexpensive knife if you really feel the need to go armed. Huh, I've had a SS prop on this boat since 1992 0 rust so far. Although I've had to change the sacrificial zinc's a few times. http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/3802/baretta.jpg Isn't that what the zincs are for or do they just prevent galvanic corrosion? Perhaps the different grades of stainless steel rust at different rates or, in some cases, not at all but some certainly do. S30V, for instance, is what my beach knife is made of and it'll rust up like nobody's business. In fact, the S30V knife I've got in my pocket right now has some rust on the blade that I need to clean off when I get home from work. Blood is another thing that will bring on some rust in most stainless knives. My Sig P-226 is allegedly made of stainless steel too and it rusts pretty quickly after exposure to light seawater spray. Not all stainless is the same... I'm no expert on stainless alloys, but ballistics grade stainless is far different than what that prop is made of... 316 Stainless is what is normally used for boat fittings, and is considered the best for corrosion resitance (within reason). However, it is soft (by metal standards) and any firearm made out of it would not last long, perhaps even taking the user out with it when it let go... Bottom line, the same ingredients that makes steel useful for gunmaking, is the same stuff that needs to be missing in the formula that leads to excellent corrosion resistance. This is why the Remington and Mossberg marine shotguns have some type of proprietary nickel plating. Stainless isn't going to cut it... |
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Posted: 7/21/2010 11:31:06 AM EDT
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Isn't that going a little bit overboard?
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Posted: 7/21/2010 11:39:31 AM EDT
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Isn't that going a little bit overboard? This. I've never even thought of taking a gun to the beach. Sometimes I wonder how some of you aren't nervous wrecks with all the tinfoil and paranoia. 
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