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Posted: 8/30/2004 7:05:38 AM EST
My proposal -

I'm against Bush saying the Swift Vets should be silenced.

I'm against McCain / Feigold CFR.

But I'm open to one possible exception -

No NEW 527 ads should be allowed in the last 10 days of the campaign. NO ONE should profit from a lie that their opponent doesn't have at least 10 days to rebutt.

Thoughts???

Link Posted: 8/30/2004 7:11:49 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/30/2004 7:12:06 AM EST by Leisure_Shoot]
No restrictions of any kind, on anyone.
That reasonable enough?
You know? 1st amendment and everything?
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 7:14:15 AM EST

Originally Posted By Leisure_Shoot:
No restrictions of any kind, on anyone.
That reasonable enough?
You know? 1st amendment and everything?



Even the First Amendment is NOT unlimited.

You cannot yell "Fire" in a crowded theatre.

You cannot libel people.

You just THINK you support no restrictions on 1A.

Link Posted: 8/30/2004 7:20:37 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/30/2004 7:23:23 AM EST by TheCynic]

Originally Posted By Leisure_Shoot:
No restrictions of any kind, on anyone.
That reasonable enough?
You know? 1st amendment and everything?



+1

eta: Crowded theater comparison is not correct
since this speech does not endanger the public.
And you absolutely can libel people, but you can
and will be sued.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 7:57:52 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/30/2004 7:59:06 AM EST by Leisure_Shoot]

Originally Posted By garandman:

Originally Posted By Leisure_Shoot:
No restrictions of any kind, on anyone.
That reasonable enough?
You know? 1st amendment and everything?



Even the First Amendment is NOT unlimited.

You cannot yell "Fire" in a crowded theatre.

You cannot libel people.

You just THINK you support no restrictions on 1A.




Limiting Political speach is what the 1st amendment was written to prevent.

There are mechanisms in place to right things when someone is libelous.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 8:01:58 AM EST
Running a campaign ad is quite different than yelling fire in a crowded theater.

Absolutely NO restrictions on political speech.
Link Posted: 8/30/2004 8:07:51 AM EST
My idea: Make it like NASCAR. IF a politician takes money from a corporation/group/whatever, he has to wear their logo on his jacket. You know which senators had been bought by whatever groups, and could vote accordingly.

It would brighten up the place too.

Kirk
/only half-joking
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