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Posted: 8/26/2005 10:26:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/26/2005 10:27:33 PM EDT by 22bad]
Funny, there is no mention that this guy is a dem and that the mexicans caught him being
"less than truthful" he just cannot come out and admit that he is telling the mexicans one thing
and that he is just telling Americans what they want to hear, he hints at it in the last paragraph

And I'm not anti-immigrant or anti-mexican....... I'm Anti-Illegal
California Politician Has Bumpy Visit to Mexico
Sam Enriquez
Times Staff Writer
August 26, 2005
www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-fabian27aug27,0,2761637.story?coll=la-home-headlines
MEXICO CITY -- California Assembly Speaker Fabian Nunez is one of a new generation of Spanish-speaking politicians who represent an increasingly potent Hispanic constituency. But somewhere between Sacramento and Mexico City, his goodwill message got lost in translation.

Nunez landed in Mexico this week with the best of intentions: strengthening ties with Mexico, California's largest trading partner, and addressing the thorny issue of illegal immigration. He worked with a local public relations man to spread his message to as many people as possible, that immigrants were a precious California resource and the two nations must work together to protect their future.

Two days into his whirlwind schedule of radio and TV appearances -- as well as a private meeting with President Vicente Fox -- Nunez was spending most of his time trying to explain his demand that Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger declare a state of emergency along California's 142-mile border.

Even worse, say Mexicans here, was Nunez's insistence that Schwarzenegger -- who this spring praised the "Minuteman" campaign along the U.S.-Mexico border -- was a caring person.

"Where does this guy stand?" asked Ulises Canchola Gutierrez, a foreign ministry official. "He supports a state of emergency. He says Arnold is not so bad. I'm confused."

Unlike many other Mexican American politicians -- including Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa -- Nunez's spoken Spanish is almost eloquent. He spent much of his childhood living in Tijuana. But his fluency in cross-border politics, at least from the Mexican prospective, is under question.

His call last week for Schwarzenegger to declare a state of emergency was seen in California as putting pressure on the Bush administration to acknowledge the steep costs shouldered by border states. Similar declarations this month by New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson and Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano made headlines and freed up some $2 million.

Here, it was interpreted as another slap to the face.

"Last week, I got a report on the number of deaths in Calexico, and after seeing the loss of life, I called on the governor to act," said Nunez during questioning by businessmen and academicians at a breakfast meeting Friday. "I'm not blaming Mexico. I've spent the last 24 hours trying to explain it."

But to many Mexicans, the demand for cheap labor and illegal drugs by Americans, and the demand to seal the border is, at best a contradiction -- and at worst, hypocrisy.

En route to his next appearance, Nunez, the son of immigrants, was upbeat about his visit, which ends Saturday.

"Somebody has to talk about controlling the border, and people here are not used to hearing that," he said. "But I feel like I just got caught in the politics of the strained relationship between the U.S. and Mexico. I knew there was some tension, but I didn't imagine how tense it is. ... People are angry."

And not just at Schwarzenegger. The U.S. ambassador to Mexico, Tony Garza, himself the son of Mexican immigrants, drew heat this month after temporarily closing the consulate office in Nuevo Laredo, a town at the Texas border where a raging turf war between two Mexican drug cartels has claimed more than 100 lives this year. He said he needed to protect his workers there.

Garza, who earlier this year married one of Mexico's richest women, was accused by Mexican pundits and politicians of punishing the Mexican government for failing to control the violence. Then last week, Garza told an audience in Denver: "Some have said that I ordered the shutdown to punish the Mexican government for its failure to control violence in the region. And, in a sense, that's true."

Garza was roundly denounced again in Mexico, with Fox obliged to point out that the illegal drug dealers and drug users are on both sides of the border.

The dust had barely settled when Nunez arrived for a private meeting Thursday with Fox at the presidential palace, known as Los Pinos. Nunez said it went well.

But by the end of the day, Fox and Schwarzenegger were suddenly unexpected allies. They both oppose Nunez's call for the declaration of a state of emergency in California.

What about Schwarzenegger? Nunez was asked again and again.

"I don't believe he is anti-Mexican, or anti-immigrant," said Nunez, leaving many scratching their heads. Schwarzenegger is seen as favoring a sealed border, a position that is widely interpreted here as anti-Mexican.

Early Friday, Nunez spoke to the Consejo Mexicano de Asuntos Internacionales, the Mexican Council on Foreign Relations. He warned of a growing anti-immigrant sentiment in California, and talked about the need for Fox to more aggressively pursue an immigration accord with the White House that would give legal status to the millions of Mexicans living in the U.S. without permission.

"It is important that we need to protect the border," he said. "Not militarize it, protect it."

It was the sort of tempered liberalism that would normally draw applause from Hispanic audiences in California.

Instead, Nunez was questioned about the divide between Mexican Americans and Mexicans in California who may or may not have legal status. A substantial proportion of Mexican Americans, for example, oppose issuing California drivers licenses to anyone without proof of legal status.

"For Latino leaders to be taken seriously, we can't say, 'Open the borders,' " Nunez said. "We have to treat our immigrants with respect, but we have to do something."

Researchers Cecilia Sanchez and Paulina Ruiz in the Times' Mexico City bureau contributed to this report.
Link Posted: 8/26/2005 10:38:32 PM EDT
Link Posted: 8/26/2005 10:52:32 PM EDT
This guy is in mexico trying to explain that he is all for illegals coming and going at will
(just like the aclu's stated position-didn't have room in my sigline for that though)
but he is telling Arnold to declare an emergency just to make bush look bad
Link Posted: 8/26/2005 10:57:49 PM EDT
Who gives a crap what the citizens of mexico think?

That politician should be tarred and feathered for catering to a foreign nation.
Link Posted: 8/26/2005 10:58:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 22bad:
"Where does this guy stand?" asked Ulises Canchola Gutierrez, a foreign ministry official. "He supports a state of emergency. He says Arnold is not so bad. I'm confused."



Fuck you, you Mexican cock sucker.

Hopefully, "the guy" stands for America.
Link Posted: 8/26/2005 11:22:50 PM EDT
When Nunez is in Calif, his critics(news media) don't ask too many pointed questions, I guess the Mexicans wanted some real answers and to try to clearify certain points. Nunez is trying to walk a very thin political line of trying to offend the least amount of people possible.
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