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Posted: 9/30/2014 3:10:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/30/2014 3:26:18 PM EST by Undefined]
Today is his last day to sign, veto, or let it pass without signature. So far no word on the worst of the laws, but he signed the one allowing family to petition a judge to take away a family members gun rights.


SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) -- Gov. Jerry Brown has signed a bill making California the first state that allows family members to ask a judge to remove firearms from a relative who appears to pose a threat.

Brown announced the bill signing Tuesday. It was proposed by several Democrats and responds to a deadly rampage in May near the University of California, Santa Barbara.
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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_XGR_GUN_VIOLENCE_RESTRAINING_ORDER_?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-09-30-15-56-25

Unofficial word from another site: According to NBC Los Angeles:

SB-199 SIGNED

AB 1014 - SIGNED

AB 1609 - SIGNED

SB 808 - VETOED
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 3:12:41 PM EST
Wow, our overlords have decided they can circumvent the Constitution with all that un necessary due process bullshit.






Link Posted: 9/30/2014 3:13:49 PM EST
And due process for the accused is treated how in this law?
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 3:14:15 PM EST
Shall not be infringed *



* Not applicable in all areas,many many restrictions apply.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 3:14:19 PM EST


Damnit, CA.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 3:18:46 PM EST
California is not a Second Amendment Area.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 3:20:23 PM EST
Calls made to the governors office confirm what Undies posted in the OP.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 3:22:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By VacaDuck:
Calls made to the governors office confirm what Undies posted in the OP.
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Do you have a status update on AB 1609?
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 3:24:53 PM EST
thank God California doesn't give extreme bias to women in the courts

in before mad gf/wife/exwife/SO gets her man's rights stripped without trial
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 3:25:47 PM EST
Is the end of SSE still up for debate or is that already a done deal?
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 3:26:55 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/30/2014 3:27:06 PM EST by Bedouin2W]



At least 808 got vetoed
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 3:27:03 PM EST
- convert to Islam
- honor-kill all problematic family members
- profit
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 3:28:08 PM EST
So....you dont have to be living together? You're a family member, that's it?
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 3:28:39 PM EST
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How bad is 1609 being passed when 808 got vetoed?
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 3:29:16 PM EST
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Do you have a status update on AB 1609?
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Originally Posted By VacaDuck:
Calls made to the governors office confirm what Undies posted in the OP.


Do you have a status update on AB 1609?
Rumor is it passed.

I can't get through on the phone to ask.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 3:29:47 PM EST
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Rumor is it passed.

I can't get through on the phone to ask.
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Originally Posted By Undefined:
Originally Posted By VacaDuck:
Calls made to the governors office confirm what Undies posted in the OP.


Do you have a status update on AB 1609?
Rumor is it passed.

I can't get through on the phone to ask.


NBC says it passed
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 3:31:55 PM EST
From what I can tell police provide a compelling reason to revoke someone's right to possess a firearm and the judge either affirms or denies. No where does it say that the person being accused of whatever is being alleged appear and face their accuser.

More tyranny.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 3:33:46 PM EST
Official confirmation on the governor's website.

http://gov.ca.gov/news.php?id=18744
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 3:34:48 PM EST
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How bad is 1609 being passed when 808 got vetoed?
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How bad is 1609 being passed when 808 got vetoed?
What 1609 means, is my C&R is basically worthless as anything more than a way to get discounts on parts.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 3:35:55 PM EST
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Originally Posted By YukonBoy03:
thank God California doesn't give extreme bias to women in the courts

in before mad gf/wife/exwife/SO gets her man's rights stripped without trial
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Even if this happened, it'd only be valid in CA, right? You'd still meet federal guide lines for owning a firearm, so couldn't you just move to Nevada and buy a gun?
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 3:37:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By VacaDuck:
What 1609 means, is my C&R is basically worthless as anything more than a way to get discounts on parts.
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Originally Posted By Undefined:


How bad is 1609 being passed when 808 got vetoed?
What 1609 means, is my C&R is basically worthless as anything more than a way to get discounts on parts.

So your C&R is like an AARP card for guns
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 3:38:02 PM EST
2 years, sweating the gun collection in my safe that NEVER went anywhere in San Diego County except when leaving it.
no carry, no shooting no nothing..hated Commiefornia for it's gun laws,,sorry it'll be apart of Mexico in 10 years..
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 3:38:03 PM EST
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Rumor is it passed.

I can't get through on the phone to ask.
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Originally Posted By Undefined:
Originally Posted By VacaDuck:
Calls made to the governors office confirm what Undies posted in the OP.


Do you have a status update on AB 1609?
Rumor is it passed.

I can't get through on the phone to ask.


Of course it did
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 3:49:55 PM EST
Holy shit. What'll they chip away at next, after there's no more firearms in CA?

Link Posted: 9/30/2014 3:52:44 PM EST
I have a Dream.

I dream of the day that we'll have a conservative...truly conservative government with a conservative Attorney General....that will pass a 'Firearms Owners Protection Act" with real teeth....and when a state violates the Second Amendment right to Keep and Bear arms, the Feds come down on them. When a state repeatedly violates that right...they have to submit ALL potential firearms legislation for approval by the Federal Government and Justice Department.....basically what they did with the Voting Rights Act.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 3:53:07 PM EST
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Holy shit. What'll they chip away at next, after there's no more firearms in CA?

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White men will no longer be able to own property.
White men will limited to making no more than minimum wage, unless you are a registered democrat AND hold political office.
Straight white males will be required to register as sex offenders on their 10th birthday.
etc...

Link Posted: 9/30/2014 3:55:28 PM EST
I think AB 199 will be overturned in the courts.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 4:13:39 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/30/2014 4:15:54 PM EST by SexualChocolate]
Color me fucking surprised.

But, but, but....cal-fucking-guns SWORE up and down .gov moonbeam fuckwad asshole cuntrocket was PRO 2A.

These fucktards didn't learn the first time this blundering cum-bubble was in office in the 70's? I didn't vote for his ass.

God damn lemmings. Get me the fuck out of here.

Take your game of chess and shove it up your shit chute.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 4:19:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/30/2014 4:26:12 PM EST by buck19delta]
shall not be infringed..... unless your bil, mom, wife, sister, decides they do not like you having guns.




nice to see that california has reduced your gun rights to the level of a 14 year old boy, living at home. your momma can ground you and take away your guns.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 4:24:45 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/30/2014 4:25:01 PM EST by Miami_JBT]
Originally Posted By Undefined:
Today is his last day to sign, veto, or let it pass without signature. So far no word on the worst of the laws, but he signed the one allowing family to petition a judge to take away a family members gun rights.


SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) -- Gov. Jerry Brown has signed a bill making California the first state that allows family members to ask a judge to remove firearms from a relative who appears to pose a threat.

Brown announced the bill signing Tuesday. It was proposed by several Democrats and responds to a deadly rampage in May near the University of California, Santa Barbara.
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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_XGR_GUN_VIOLENCE_RESTRAINING_ORDER_?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-09-30-15-56-25

Unofficial word from another site: According to NBC Los Angeles:

SB-199 SIGNED

AB 1014 - SIGNED

AB 1609 - SIGNED

SB 808 - VETOED
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So what is now legal?
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 4:25:28 PM EST
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So what is now legal?
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Originally Posted By Undefined:
Today is his last day to sign, veto, or let it pass without signature. So far no word on the worst of the laws, but he signed the one allowing family to petition a judge to take away a family members gun rights.


SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) -- Gov. Jerry Brown has signed a bill making California the first state that allows family members to ask a judge to remove firearms from a relative who appears to pose a threat.

Brown announced the bill signing Tuesday. It was proposed by several Democrats and responds to a deadly rampage in May near the University of California, Santa Barbara.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_XGR_GUN_VIOLENCE_RESTRAINING_ORDER_?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-09-30-15-56-25

Unofficial word from another site: According to NBC Los Angeles:

SB-199 SIGNED

AB 1014 - SIGNED

AB 1609 - SIGNED

SB 808 - VETOED

So what is now legal?


Who knows. One of those bills goes after fucking BB guns.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 4:30:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By SexualChocolate:
Color me fucking surprised.

But, but, but....cal-fucking-guns SWORE up and down .gov moonbeam fuckwad asshole cuntrocket was PRO 2A.

These fucktards didn't learn the first time this blundering cum-bubble was in office in the 70's? I didn't vote for his ass.

God damn lemmings. Get me the fuck out of here.

Take your game of chess and shove it up your shit chute.
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Are you serious? he is the worst
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 4:36:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By buck19delta:
shall not be infringed..... unless your bil, mom, wife, sister, decides they do not like you having guns.




nice to see that california has reduced your gun rights to the level of a 14 year old boy, living at home. your momma can ground you and take away your guns.
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Couldn't have said it better myself.


When did Jerry Brown go into office??? Holy crap, blast from the past.

Link Posted: 9/30/2014 4:37:46 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/30/2014 4:38:03 PM EST by SDSG]
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Who knows. One of those bills goes after fucking BB guns.
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Originally Posted By Miami_JBT:
Originally Posted By Undefined:
Today is his last day to sign, veto, or let it pass without signature. So far no word on the worst of the laws, but he signed the one allowing family to petition a judge to take away a family members gun rights.


SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) -- Gov. Jerry Brown has signed a bill making California the first state that allows family members to ask a judge to remove firearms from a relative who appears to pose a threat.

Brown announced the bill signing Tuesday. It was proposed by several Democrats and responds to a deadly rampage in May near the University of California, Santa Barbara.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_XGR_GUN_VIOLENCE_RESTRAINING_ORDER_?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-09-30-15-56-25

Unofficial word from another site: According to NBC Los Angeles:

SB-199 SIGNED

AB 1014 - SIGNED

AB 1609 - SIGNED

SB 808 - VETOED

So what is now legal?


Who knows. One of those bills goes after fucking BB guns.


And basically bans airsoft "assault weapons"

) If the airsoft gun is configured as a rifle or long gun, in addition to the blaze orange ring on the barrel required by federal law, the airsoft gun has a trigger guard that has fluorescent coloration over the entire guard, and there is a two centimeter wide adhesive band with fluorescent coloring around the circumference of any two of the following:
(i) The protruding pistol grip.
(ii) The buttstock.
(iii) A protruding ammunition magazine or clip.


LMAO. De facto ban on airsoft guns if toy stores dont start painting them bright orange

Link Posted: 9/30/2014 4:40:04 PM EST
Thank god home built AR's & AK's (aka 80% recievers) got veto'd.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 4:42:01 PM EST
I honestly don't know how you guys fight against this in California. You're severely outnumbered, it's nigh impossible to vote an incumbent out, etc.

The courts are all that's left.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 4:44:28 PM EST
Lol
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I honestly don't know how you guys fight against this in California. You're severely outnumbered, it's nigh impossible to vote an incumbent out, etc.

The courts are all that's left.
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Shit, you remember how it is. A very high percentage of California gun owners don't pay any mind as to what Sacramento says is legal or not.
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Are you serious? he is the worst
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I believe a lot of CalGuns types supported him.

He actually is rather sane for a CA Democrat.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 4:46:21 PM EST
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I honestly don't know how you guys fight against this in California. You're severely outnumbered, it's nigh impossible to vote an incumbent out, etc.

The courts are all that's left.
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Brown actually vetos some stuff. After that the remaining defense is the courts.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 4:46:36 PM EST
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Shit, you remember how it is. A very high percentage of California gun owners don't pay any mind as to what Sacramento says is legal or not.
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Originally Posted By Subnet:
I honestly don't know how you guys fight against this in California. You're severely outnumbered, it's nigh impossible to vote an incumbent out, etc.

The courts are all that's left.
Shit, you remember how it is. A very high percentage of California gun owners don't pay any mind as to what Sacramento says is legal or not.

Intimately familiar, yes.

But it'd sure be nice to see the courts roll some of the more onerous shit back. It's about the only option left, really.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 4:48:44 PM EST
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Thank god home built AR's & AK's (aka 80% recievers) got veto'd.
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For now anyway.............

These people will not stop.Ever.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 4:49:09 PM EST
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Originally Posted By douglasmorris99:
2 years, sweating the gun collection in my safe that NEVER went anywhere in San Diego County except when leaving it.
no carry, no shooting no nothing..hated Commiefornia for it's gun laws,,sorry it'll be apart of Mexico in 10 years..
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And TX won't. You moved from one Edited...VA-gunnut state to another. Should have gone North East.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 4:50:22 PM EST
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What 1609 means, is my C&R is basically worthless as anything more than a way to get discounts on parts.
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Originally Posted By Undefined:


How bad is 1609 being passed when 808 got vetoed?
What 1609 means, is my C&R is basically worthless as anything more than a way to get discounts on parts.

(b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to or affect any of the following:
(1) A licensed collector who is subject to and complies with Section 27565.
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And TX won't. You moved from one ******** state to another. Should have gone North East.
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Originally Posted By douglasmorris99:
2 years, sweating the gun collection in my safe that NEVER went anywhere in San Diego County except when leaving it.
no carry, no shooting no nothing..hated Commiefornia for it's gun laws,,sorry it'll be apart of Mexico in 10 years..


And TX won't. You moved from one ******** state to another. Should have gone North East.
Piece of advice.

Change the words between 'one' and 'state' in your post.
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Piece of advice.

Change the words between 'one' and 'state' in your post.
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Originally Posted By douglasmorris99:
2 years, sweating the gun collection in my safe that NEVER went anywhere in San Diego County except when leaving it.
no carry, no shooting no nothing..hated Commiefornia for it's gun laws,,sorry it'll be apart of Mexico in 10 years..


And TX won't. You moved from one ******** state to another. Should have gone North East.
Piece of advice.

Change the words between 'one' and 'state' in your post.

This. Jeez, dude.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 4:51:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By SexualChocolate:
Color me fucking surprised.

But, but, but....cal-fucking-guns SWORE up and down .gov moonbeam fuckwad asshole cuntrocket was PRO 2A.

These fucktards didn't learn the first time this blundering cum-bubble was in office in the 70's? I didn't vote for his ass.

God damn lemmings. Get me the fuck out of here.

Take your game of chess and shove it up your shit chute.
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Link Posted: 9/30/2014 4:54:26 PM EST
Time to build a fucking fence around KA.. now call it.... "hotel kalifornia"... make it the utopia for liberals...
...All apologies to the Eagles...
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 5:07:14 PM EST
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Even if this happened, it'd only be valid in CA, right? You'd still meet federal guide lines for owning a firearm, so couldn't you just move to Nevada and buy a gun?
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Originally Posted By YukonBoy03:
thank God California doesn't give extreme bias to women in the courts

in before mad gf/wife/exwife/SO gets her man's rights stripped without trial


Even if this happened, it'd only be valid in CA, right? You'd still meet federal guide lines for owning a firearm, so couldn't you just move to Nevada and buy a gun?


that would be a fair assumption. but we need the first person to stay and fight



every single measure they enact, needs to be defeated promptly
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 5:32:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Subnet:
I honestly don't know how you guys fight against this in California. You're severely outnumbered, it's nigh impossible to vote an incumbent out, etc.

The courts are all that's left.
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We've had pretty good luck in the courts, lately.

Get the 2A fully incorporated and recognized and most of the BS will go away.
Link Posted: 9/30/2014 5:32:48 PM EST
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I believe a lot of CalGuns types supported him.

He actually is rather sane for a CA Democrat.
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Originally Posted By TheWind:

Are you serious? he is the worst


I believe a lot of CalGuns types supported him.

He actually is rather sane for a CA Democrat.


yeah but that's not saying all that much.
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