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Posted: 1/21/2009 8:22:27 AM EST
As seen at SHOT –– Anybody else who has been yearning for a Saiga-12 suddenly lose all interest once they saw this puppy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ntc69zDItPU

_MaH
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 8:25:36 AM EST
I could barely hear the guy over the shameless flirting
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 8:28:08 AM EST
looks good to me.  

"Is that an AR?"

"Kinda.....BOOM!"
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 8:29:53 AM EST
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 8:32:40 AM EST
Well it looks cooler than my Saiga but I bet it won't cost less than $379 (CDNN Special )
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 8:34:36 AM EST
Quoted:
I now have a raging boner.




Link Posted: 1/21/2009 8:35:39 AM EST
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 8:36:50 AM EST
oh its a remade USAS-12

edit now with pic


Link Posted: 1/21/2009 8:36:59 AM EST
Quoted:
I now have a raging boner.


Better stay behind that podium during today's lecture, prof....



_MaH
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 8:37:17 AM EST
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 8:37:23 AM EST
What kind of mags does it take?
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 8:38:03 AM EST




add that to one of the things I want!
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 8:38:35 AM EST

Link Posted: 1/21/2009 8:39:29 AM EST
That's gonna be bad ass if they get it right.
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 8:39:40 AM EST
It is fucking awesome, but like most everything else new, the price will make me say no.
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 8:42:39 AM EST


Quoted:


As seen at SHOT –– Anybody else who has been yearning for a Saiga-12 suddenly lose all interest once they saw this puppy?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ntc69zDItPU



_MaH
I have now.






 
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 8:43:10 AM EST
Yuck...
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 8:44:26 AM EST
Quoted:
What kind of mags does it take?


Proprietary, is what he said.    Would be so much better if it took S12 mags.  Not that it matters, it's just more drool-worthy vaporware that'll never make it out before the next ban, and would cost $3K if it did, with $200 mags.
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 8:45:22 AM EST
wow arfcom has a production company? cool.
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 8:45:59 AM EST
Quoted:
What kind of mags does it take?


hopefully 30 rounders

Link Posted: 1/21/2009 8:48:15 AM EST
Quoted:
What kind of mags does it take?


He said propietary mags.

Looks good.
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 8:50:18 AM EST
Very cool.  

Does it use a regular lower?
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 8:55:53 AM EST
Are the butter soft taper pins and fucked up barrel threading included or do you have to pay extra?
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 8:56:36 AM EST
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 8:58:20 AM EST
I saw that at Shot, but still want a Tromix Saiga 12
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 8:58:36 AM EST
I have a feeling i'll never see one.
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 9:00:36 AM EST
Quoted:
I now have a raging boner.


Hope the geese aren't migrating thru there.
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 9:01:47 AM EST
Meh... I'll pass.
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 9:03:01 AM EST
Quoted:
I now have a raging boner.


your not the only one
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 9:08:29 AM EST
That is bad ass.... I'd have to get one just because
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 9:13:23 AM EST
As previously mentioned it looks like an updated USAS12. Weren't those classified as DDs a few years back?
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 9:15:47 AM EST
American manufacturers have avoided the magazine fed semi auto shotgun like the plague for fears ATF would immediately rule it a DD.

Wonder how CMMG intends to counter this? Or, if they don't care if it gets ruled DD that is going to really piss of the Saiga owners.
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 9:16:32 AM EST
And classification as a DD in 3, 2, 1....................
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 9:18:29 AM EST
Glad I'm not the only one who saw it and is thinking DD. That's total BS to me btw. We really need someone with some sense in there at the ATF.
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 9:19:48 AM EST
I want.

Hopefully Magpul will design and make the mag.
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 9:20:24 AM EST
Quoted:
Glad I'm not the only one who saw it and is thinking DD. That's total BS to me btw. We really need someone with some sense in there at the ATF.


Well that's DEFINITELY going to happen NOW



_MaH
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 9:20:27 AM EST
Felony - Possession of an unregistered machine mouse.
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 9:20:31 AM EST
I paid $239 for my saiga-12 from cdnn.

-JTP
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 9:21:40 AM EST
I ask only because I know nothing of the subject...Why is the Saiga not a DD then?
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 9:21:47 AM EST
Quoted:
And classification as a DD in 3, 2, 1....................


yep.  Can't beleive they haven't killed the Saiga yet
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 9:22:28 AM EST
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 9:23:41 AM EST
what does the atf have against shotguns with a detachable magazine? why would it be a DD
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 9:25:57 AM EST
Quoted:
I ask only because I know nothing of the subject...Why is the Saiga not a DD then?


They fell asleep at the switch.  
Same way with Semiauto shotguns in khalefornistan and their AWB.
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 9:28:01 AM EST
Does anyone have a Pic?  

Can't get to Youtube.
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 9:28:23 AM EST


Quoted:


what does the atf have against shotguns with a detachable magazine? why would it be a DD


It would be a DD simply because the Attorney General doesnt think it is 'sporting'.



The AG could say a single shot 12 gauge is a DD.



 
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 9:28:42 AM EST
You know, if this thing is less than 1k, I just might have to blow my wad on one. Wad of money that is.  That thing is fucking awesome.
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 9:31:22 AM EST
Quoted:
Quoted:
what does the atf have against shotguns with a detachable magazine? why would it be a DD

It would be a DD simply because the Attorney General doesnt think it is 'sporting'.

The AG could say a single shot 12 gauge is a DD.
 


Non-sporting firearm with a caliber greater then .50 .

Link Posted: 1/21/2009 9:31:33 AM EST
Pretty cool.  Not sure if I want one though.  Guess it depends on the price.
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 10:47:48 AM EST
Quoted:
Well it looks cooler than my Saiga but I bet it won't cost less than $379 (CDNN Special )


Got mine for Under 3 bills

Quoted:
I paid $239 for my saiga-12 from cdnn.

-JTP


Sounds like you and I got in on the same clearance sale.
Link Posted: 1/21/2009 11:12:12 AM EST
Quoted:
Quoted:
Well it looks cooler than my Saiga but I bet it won't cost less than $379 (CDNN Special )


Got mine for Under 3 bills

Quoted:
I paid $239 for my saiga-12 from cdnn.

-JTP


Sounds like you and I got in on the same clearance sale.


I remember when a local shop couldn't give those away. I missed out.

Link Posted: 1/21/2009 11:21:45 AM EST




Turkey has this thing. Looks like it takes modified AR mags (maybe like a .50Beo mag?). Pretty nifty.
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