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Posted: 10/3/2004 8:16:44 PM EST
Seeing all these picture threads on here got me to thinking. Does anybody have pics of these guys over in the desert?
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 8:17:27 PM EST
Are you talking about a specific facility?
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 8:17:31 PM EST
NSA guys sit in cubicles in Bethesda.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 8:21:19 PM EST

Originally Posted By raven:
NSA guys sit in cubicles in Bethesda.


That's what they want you to think
M
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 8:22:10 PM EST
No just in general. Not looking for serious TS/SCI spook realted Tom Clancy stuff.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 8:23:59 PM EST

Originally Posted By NoMoAMMO:
No just in general. Not looking for serious TS/SCI spook realted Tom Clancy stuff.


On the internet?
Seriously.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 8:25:35 PM EST
I know they had some pics of that one guy that got killed back in Afghanistan a while back. That's all I'm looking for to just see if the are using AK's like him or other little things.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 8:33:19 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2004 8:36:30 PM EST by AdrianUSP9]
I have a feeling those types don't like having their pics taken, nor posted, whether they are undercover or not.

Couple things from reliable sources - NSA guys dont run around in the desert with guns - they sit and listen to the radio, and might know how to shoot a gun if they ever have to, but that's about it. Most sit at Fort Meade playing with conputers.

CIA operations officers (the covert guys) are usually just along for the ride with the Spec Ops folks. They are trained just enough so they don't get in the way of the soldiers (unless they are former SEALs or something). Chances are they're using the same weapons the unit they are along with is using - or the same weapons as the folks they are training.

That said, now I have to kill you .

If you're curious, read Inside the CIA, by Kessler. Gives a really honest and good look into the CIA, especially the operations side of it.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 8:38:28 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 8:49:11 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 8:56:08 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2004 8:56:50 PM EST by NoMoAMMO]
What is that shiny thing on that tree?



Link Posted: 10/3/2004 9:18:15 PM EST
ROFLMFAO!!!
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 9:24:05 PM EST

Originally Posted By NoMoAMMO:
What is that shiny thing on that tree?






Chrome plated dog tags!
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 9:35:54 PM EST
On a serious note, where in the hell did that pic come from Lumpy?
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 9:55:47 PM EST
Lumpy....Nice 'fro
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 9:58:08 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 10:07:47 PM EST

Originally Posted By Gunslinger808:

Originally Posted By NoMoAMMO:
What is that shiny thing on that tree?






Chrome plated dog tags!



That sure is hell ain't your daddy's MARPAT bling bling.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 10:10:29 PM EST
And I thought the Delta Force Disco Teams were only a rumor.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 10:40:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2004 10:41:36 PM EST by Master_of_Orion]
man that pic and your coments almost made me cough up a lung

Link Posted: 10/3/2004 10:55:21 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 2:20:49 AM EST
"Turn on your heartlight...."


Link Posted: 10/4/2004 2:26:54 AM EST

Originally Posted By raven:
NSA guys sit in cubicles in Bethesda.



Actually they sit in several places of which Bethesda is one. The main facility is on Ft. Meade.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 3:23:43 AM EST
they work in greenbelt, live in waldorf and take the kids to soccer practise like everyone else. the NSA is the largest employer in the state of MD
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 3:36:01 AM EST

Originally Posted By Stillie:


Originally Posted By raven:
NSA guys sit in cubicles in Bethesda.



Actually they sit in several places of which Bethesda is one. The main facility is on Ft. Meade.




What he said.


Ft. Meade, Bethesda, out by the BWI airport, lots of other places
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 3:37:17 AM EST

Originally Posted By M4_Aiming_at_U:

Originally Posted By raven:
NSA guys sit in cubicles in Bethesda.



Well, not there. The NSA office is in Ft. Mead MD outside Hanover MD right next to BWI airport.

I lived about 10 minutes away from that place not long ago.



Beat me too it. A buddy of mine lives about 10-15 mintues away in Crofton, MD.

I'm sure they're listening to me when I'm out there, so I always travel there with a couple rolls of tinfoil and some tape.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 3:40:32 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/4/2004 3:45:29 AM EST by fight4yourrights]

Originally Posted By M4_Aiming_at_U:


Well, not there. The NSA office is in Ft. Mead MD outside Hanover MD right next to BWI airport.

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Fort Meade isnt' *next* to BWI airport. It's 8.37 miles away.

NSA has facitities near the airport - you know the road that goes by the hotels and such? Any of the places with tall fences and wire are likely NSA facilities. I've been to 3 or 4 of them there.

The main place is at Fort Meade, like you said, but that is well south of the airport.


Fort Meade = Odenton (the town on the north side of Ft. Meade). Hell, it's a lot closer to Laurel than BWI


Link Posted: 10/4/2004 3:56:34 AM EST

Originally Posted By Zaphod:
"Turn on your heartlight...."








Bigfeet
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 11:26:56 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/4/2004 11:27:49 AM EST by M4_Aiming_at_U]
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 11:32:03 AM EST

Originally Posted By Stillie:

Originally Posted By raven:
NSA guys sit in cubicles in Bethesda.


Actually they sit in several places of which Bethesda is one. The main facility is on Ft. Meade.


NGA's HQ is in Bethesda
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 11:38:35 AM EST
Jesus already.Some one post some pics as the guy requested.Instead of arguing over their location.

Link Posted: 10/4/2004 11:42:35 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 11:47:00 AM EST

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:

Originally Posted By M4_Aiming_at_U:


Well, not there. The NSA office is in Ft. Mead MD outside Hanover MD right next to BWI airport.

.




Fort Meade isnt' *next* to BWI airport. It's 8.37 miles away.

NSA has facitities near the airport - you know the road that goes by the hotels and such? Any of the places with tall fences and wire are likely NSA facilities. I've been to 3 or 4 of them there.

The main place is at Fort Meade, like you said, but that is well south of the airport.


Fort Meade = Odenton (the town on the north side of Ft. Meade). Hell, it's a lot closer to Laurel than BWI


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NSA doesn't exist. It is a figment of Tom Clancy's imagination.

Its been a while since I was at G.G. Meade, but I know they were starting to move more and more stuff offsite to the BWI complex. Its called FANEX, and thats about all I know about it. Really. I'm not kidding. I know NOTHING!

Laurel is a tad closer, as I used to live on Ft. Meade Rd (I think it was called 198?) when Horizon Square was actually a decent place to live.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 11:48:49 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 12:00:00 PM EST
Just make your request for pics to them directly next time you're on the phone. They can hear you.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 12:35:55 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 12:37:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By M4_Aiming_at_U:

Originally Posted By RustyTX:
Just make your request for pics to them directly next time you're on the phone. They can hear you.



I did and this is what they sent me:

www.grosskurth.de/images/NSA.jpg



See! All you have to do is ask

Say 'bomb' and 'sheik' and stuff like that alot to get their attention though. It helps.
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 12:39:08 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 12:40:30 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 12:42:40 PM EST

Originally Posted By M4_Aiming_at_U:

Originally Posted By M4_Aiming_at_U:

Originally Posted By RustyTX:

Originally Posted By M4_Aiming_at_U:

Originally Posted By RustyTX:
Just make your request for pics to them directly next time you're on the phone. They can hear you.



I did and this is what they sent me:

www.grosskurth.de/images/NSA.jpg



See! All you have to do is ask

Say 'bomb' and 'sheik' and stuff like that alot to get their attention though. It helps.



Ok







www.army-surplus.com/ss_store/media/handcuffs.gif



I never said they had a sense of humor
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 12:44:32 PM EST
I prefer the picture of 'the building' with the lighning coming down on it. Of course, squirrels are the nemisis of NSA. I was there when a squirrel got fried in a transformer and took the power out or the whole place. Had to get out of my office by the light of my trusty Zippo. Damn things heat up quick!
Link Posted: 10/4/2004 12:44:48 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/4/2004 12:52:42 PM EST by M4]


Central Intelligence Agency

Special Activities Staff (SAS)

Military Special Projects (MSP)



The Special Activities Staff (SAS)

The Special Activities Staff (SAS) is one of the least known covert units operating on behalf of the US Government. Operating in teams as large as 12, or as small as one, the SAS is considered to be among the world's top special operations units. SAS personnel have been described as being particularly skilled in counterterrorist/hostage rescue operations, and are said to capable of "taking down" any type of vehicle, aircraft, ship, building, or facility.

The SAS provides a pool from which the various divisions within the Agency may draw trained personnel to form a Special Operations Group, or SOG. SOG's are short-term teams that carry out paramilitary operations such as sabotage; friendly personnel/material recovery; threat personnel/material snatches; bomb damage assessment (BDA); counterterrorist (CT) operations; raids; hostage rescues, and other activities as directed by the President.

Candidates for the SAS are primarily drawn from two sources. The first of these is the US military's Special Mission Units (SMUs) such as the Army's Combat Applications Group (CAG) better known as "Delta Force" ( the 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment-Delta), as well as the US Navy's Naval Special Warfare Development Group (DEVGRU-formerly known as SEAL Team SIX). Other prospective candidates are drawn from former members of elite military units such as the USMC's Force Reconnaissance units; the US Army Special Forces; and Navy's SEAL teams, or from within the ranks of the Agency itself.

A SOG detachment would be comprised of members from one, or more the SAS's three sections, which include a Ground Branch, Air Branch, and Maritime Branch, depending upon the needs of the SOG, and its mission tasking. Once organized, a SOG would travel to its selected Area of Operations (AO), and execute its mission as directed by the DDO through the local Chief of Station, or whomever was tasked with carrying out the operation.

One successful operation conducted by the SAS occurred during Operation Desert Shield. During the operation a lone SAS operative repeatedly penetrated Iraqi defense in and around Kuwait City in order to deliver, and retrieve intelligence material from the besieged US Embassy. In another operation SAS operators, along with US Navy SEALs, were involved in the covert mining of Nicaraguan harbors during the 1980s.

Air Branch

Air Branch is a descendent of such groups as Air America, Southern Air Transport, and Evergreen Air. Air Branch provides all of the Agency's covert aviation assets, with both fixed and rotary wing aircraft being available for use. Reportedly there is virtually no type of aircraft that SAS Air Branch personnel cannot operate. Some Air Branch pilots are culled from the ranks of the US Army's 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment.

Air Branch has provided personnel for such diverse undertakings as "Sea Spray" (A covert Army/CIA aviation unit), the covert arming of the Nicaraguan Contras, and the resupply of UNITA rebels in Angola.

Maritime Branch

Maritime Branch is primarily composed of former Navy SEALs from both "regular" blue water SEAL Teams and the counterterrorist DEVGRU, and USMC Force Reconnaissance personnel. Maritime Branch personnel receive training similar to that of Ground Branch operators, but with a greater training emphasis on amphibious/waterborne activities. Maritime Branch operators receive training in conducting operations such as jet-ski reconnaissance and hostage rescue operations along hostile shorelines.

One example of these activities occured during the early 80's, when Maritime Branch personnel trained Nicaraguan Contras to use of high speed boats for attacks against Sandanita shipping. They also stood by to launch underwater sabotage attacks against ships docked in Managua's harbor. Another example occurred in early 1991. This time Maritime Branch operators instructed US military SOF in the use of modified jet skis for a possible hostage rescue mission during Operation Desert Storm.

The amphibious skills of Maritime Branch personnel are sometimes duplicated within Ground Branch, due to the fact that many Ground Branch operators are already combat diver or scout-swimmer qualified.



Ground Branch

Ground Branch personnel are the most diversely trained group of all SAS personnel, receiving training at various civilian and military courses, with particular attention being given to the use of small arms. Training is known to include instruction in the following areas: assessing threat types; intelligence gathering; room entry techniques; tactical communications (covert radios, infrared, microwave transmitters, etc.); levels of force; use of the baton; armed and unarmed crowd control; edged weapons; unarmed combat techniques; team training and leadership; individual and team movements; structure penetration; boarding and securing vessels; prisoner search/ snatch and handling; hostage situation management; small unit tactics; long range reconnaissance and patrol; explosives; field medicine; extreme environment survival; and land, sea and airborne operations.

Small arms instruction is provided using a wide variety of weapons, ranging from pistols and shotguns, to rifles and carbines. CQB shooting skills, sniping, and countersniping are all considered vital skills and are emphasized thoughout operator training. Civilian training centers such as John Shaw's Mid South School, TEES, BSR, and Gunsite are known to frequently play host to SAS personnel.

Another important area of Ground Branch operator training is advanced automobile handling (evasive, high-speed emergency driving). Students learn how to drive virtually any type of vehicle under any condition, both during daylight and at night, with or without night observation devices (NODs). They also receive instruction on how to use the car as a weapon, should the need ever arise. These skills, along with related techniques, are known collectively as Tactical Vehicle Commandeering (TVC) and are learned both at civilian academies and by G8: Training Division.

All Ground Branch personnel are required to undertake every class offered by OTR that has anything to do with small arms, vehicles, terrorism, or covert fieldcraft. While such training obviously enhances the individual operator's personal skill level, a secondary reason for such training is the fact that Ground Branch personnel will, at some point in their career, have to serve as an instructor at a CIA or government run training facility.

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