Don't forget the fingerprints. That's one large step worse than simply having to sign a 4473. Also, wasting our time jumping through these hoops is very important to the anti-gunners. As one editorial in the state paper here wrote, the writer estimated that it [i]only[/i] took 20 hours of work to get a carry permit in this state. She was calling for support for the state police's plan to add an addition eight hours of training, a trip to the state police headquaters, and an hour-long interview to the requirements. Between time off of work for the class, money to pay for the class, ammo, driving time, mileage, pictures, permit fees, notarized documents, and 13 months of waiting, I think I've got (wild guesses) 60 hours wasted and over $300 wasted in a vain attempt to get a concealed carry permit. I can hear the anti-gunners laughing now...z