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Posted: 9/24/2004 1:50:23 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 1:52:16 AM EST
You bitch about this law...then you bitch about imigration.


Then some people bitch and tell me unions are a GOOD thing.


Uh huh.


Sgtar15


PS How you doing man???

Link Posted: 9/24/2004 1:58:55 AM EST
California has become a mix of China and France. That's all I can say. I have no other words to describe the place. It's easier in CA to count the things that are legal than are not. You can't legally do anything in that frigging state anymore. Of all the stupid things!

Link Posted: 9/24/2004 1:59:26 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/24/2004 1:59:54 AM EST by Voldermortist]
california needs to fall into the ocean and die already


al those earthquakes must be god's way of saying "quit that, goddamn it!"
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 2:02:23 AM EST
This is pitiful.


"You don't want to pull weeds by hand, amigo? Awww... the law says you don't have to? Let's see your green card, puta."


- BG
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 2:02:44 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 2:03:08 AM EST
In other news:
California has outlawed Blowjobs due to the risk of knee injury and gagging.

Skrew Commifornia.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 7:07:01 AM EST
Why bother with hiring illegals if you can't even make them do stoop labor? Looks like it's time to re-mechanize the agricultural sector.

GunLvr
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 7:09:13 AM EST
An exception for the organic growers? Liberals taking care of liberals. Nuff said.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 7:11:15 AM EST

You have got to be kidding me!

Link Posted: 9/24/2004 7:13:00 AM EST
Um....I dislike Kalistan as much as anyone, but this is really not something to blame the state for.
If you read the story you'll see that is was recommended by OSHA.
All things considered they aren't banning weed pulling, they are just making it mandatory to give them a tool to do it with, reducing strain on the back, and thereby reducing back injuries.

I don't know, doesn't seem like such a bad thing to me.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 7:37:41 AM EST

This seems to make economical sense and common sense. I know I was more productive weeding beans with a hoe than pulling by hand. I'm not too crazy about laws mandating thing, but I'd think it would be cheaper for employers to have more productive employees. Am I missing something?
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 7:55:38 AM EST

Originally Posted By drache:
Um....I dislike Kalistan as much as anyone, but this is really not something to blame the state for.
If you read the story you'll see that is was recommended by OSHA.




Yes, I re-read the story. It says "Cal-OSHA," which is the CALIFORNIA Occupational Safety and Health Administration.


So why wouldn't California be to blame for a policy enacted by a California agency?
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 7:57:47 AM EST
The W/C claims for weed pullers must be outta control. Oww my back hurts, retire in mexico.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 7:57:56 AM EST
What on earth?! I grew up in CA and my parents had me pulling weeds in the yard all the time. Then again, Mom's a farmgirl who grew up in Utah and Arizona.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 7:58:45 AM EST

Originally Posted By sonofbp:
In other news:
California has outlawed Blowjobs due to the risk of knee injury and gagging.

Skrew Commifornia.



Unless it's one guy blowing another guy...
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 8:03:28 AM EST

Originally Posted By napalm:

Originally Posted By drache:
Um....I dislike Kalistan as much as anyone, but this is really not something to blame the state for.
If you read the story you'll see that is was recommended by OSHA.




Yes, I re-read the story. It says "Cal-OSHA," which is the CALIFORNIA Occupational Safety and Health Administration.


So why wouldn't California be to blame for a policy enacted by a California agency?



Well, that's true enough.
I still don't see it as being a bad thing though.
I don't necessarily agree with enacting a law about it, but it does seem to make sense to me that you'd want healthy workers that can produce for longer periods of time. Plus it should reduce health care costs for the company. Good business the way I see it. Just can't figure why they'd need a law for it. I'd think businesses would actually want to do this.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 8:14:32 AM EST
I don't know about this...

California Bans the Pulling of Weeds by Hand on Most Farms Due to Risk of Back Injury

But I do know if it was my job to pull weeds by hand, I'd make myself something to
use that would not require me to stoop over,that is for sure.

GM
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 8:17:36 AM EST

Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
California has become a mix of China and France and Mexico!



You almost forgot the most important ingredient!
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 8:28:04 AM EST
That article makes my mind hurt. I can't even comprehend how some people think.

apnews.excite.com/article/20040924/D859PAT81.html
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 8:30:40 AM EST
If it wasn't CA, I'd say it was April Fool's day.

Link Posted: 9/24/2004 8:31:36 AM EST
They should outlaw lifting weights too. That's pretty hard.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 8:35:23 AM EST
my friggin 85 yr old grandmother still pulls weeds!!!!!!!!

CA: the antithesis of common sense
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 8:40:10 AM EST
do you think they could make a federal law that would just ban california?
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 9:08:22 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/24/2004 9:12:52 AM EST by painrx]
BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!

California also bans wiping your ass. Reaching around may cause shoulder injury. All Kommiefornians must now drag their ass on the carpet like a dog.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 10:38:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By painrx:
BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!

California also bans wiping your ass. Reaching around may cause shoulder injury. All Kommiefornians must now drag their ass on the carpet like a dog.



Which would be fine if they hadn't already banned carpet.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 10:54:06 AM EST
Damn, I deal with W/C stuff all the time. CA back injuries from illegals must be insane. I don't know how that state has the largest population in the country and a ton of business. I would have bailed years ago.

Well, feel free to move your farming operation to another state where weeding can be done by either hand or machine. Sorry CA, but stupid laws (some W/C, some safety, and many socialist) only hurt CA. Somehow I feel that they will hurt the rest of the US down the road.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 11:44:47 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 11:52:35 AM EST

Originally Posted By sherrick13:

Originally Posted By drache:
Um....I dislike Kalistan as much as anyone, but this is really not something to blame the state for.
If you read the story you'll see that is was recommended by OSHA.
All things considered they aren't banning weed pulling, they are just making it mandatory to give them a tool to do it with, reducing strain on the back, and thereby reducing back injuries.

I don't know, doesn't seem like such a bad thing to me.




What happened to the free market country and let employees people make their own decisions???



Fixed it for ya.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 12:03:57 PM EST
Ban all hard work damnit!

It's to hard on peolpe
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 12:05:10 PM EST
Every state has goofy OSHA laws.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 12:14:11 PM EST
Notice that all the crying pussy bitches complaining aren't from California. Guess they can't take it and have to whine to their Internet fellow wusses.

It's actually a method of preventing illegal aliens. If we can't ban them, then effectively ban their jobs. Like outlawing the short hoe a few (bunches?) years back. The farm companies will find a way to become more productive without the method. Eventually hydroponics? you have the crop floating and supported in water above ground and then no weeds and probably able to be picked by machine.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 12:25:52 PM EST

Originally Posted By painrx:
BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!

California also bans wiping your ass. Reaching around may cause shoulder injury. All Kommiefornians must now drag their ass on the carpet like a dog.



Link Posted: 9/24/2004 12:31:04 PM EST

Originally Posted By PaDanby:
Notice that all the crying pussy bitches complaining aren't from California. Guess they can't take it and have to whine to their Internet fellow wusses.

It's actually a method of preventing illegal aliens. If we can't ban them, then effectively ban their jobs. Like outlawing the short hoe a few (bunches?) years back. The farm companies will find a way to become more productive without the method. Eventually hydroponics? you have the crop floating and supported in water above ground and then no weeds and probably able to be picked by machine.



Give the illegals hoes.

CRC
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 12:40:10 PM EST
So is masterbation going to be banned for causing carpal tunnel?

sorry feelin pretty stupid today and had to pass it on.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 1:23:09 PM EST
How about banning doggie style sex!

Women bent over with all of that hard thrusting. It's gotta be hard on the spine. The porn industry would be ruined.

Link Posted: 9/24/2004 1:26:36 PM EST

Originally Posted By haloemt:
So is masterbation going to be banned for causing carpal tunnel?



Yea, hurt myself jerking off in the mens washroom, so now I need workers comp.

Link Posted: 9/24/2004 1:28:30 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/24/2004 1:28:50 PM EST by topjimmy]
Pussified
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 1:30:10 PM EST
So obviously you are not proponents of working smarter not harder.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 1:31:14 PM EST

Originally Posted By PaDanby:
Notice that all the crying pussy bitches complaining aren't from California. Guess they can't take it and have to whine to their Internet fellow wusses.

It's actually a method of preventing illegal aliens. If we can't ban them, then effectively ban their jobs. Like outlawing the short hoe a few (bunches?) years back. The farm companies will find a way to become more productive without the method. Eventually hydroponics? you have the crop floating and supported in water above ground and then no weeds and probably able to be picked by machine.



can you do some kind of connect the dots thing so i can see how the fuck you got from A to -b+X^4xc

california is fucked up like a soup sandwich and for stating the obvious that makes me a wussy.................ooooooooooook
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 1:42:41 PM EST
If an illegal worker works in an illegal manner, is it illegal?
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 7:30:45 PM EST
Every state has OSHA ergonomic regulations and that is all this is. What they are asking is that workers be given long handled tools and if they are not effective in performing the work to justify why. Having done enough yard work in my life I would prefer to stand then having to kneel or bend over to pull weeds or turn dirt, it is hard on your back. A long handled tool is not terribly expensive and since President Bush doesnt seem to care about the illegal alien problem and since California is forced to cover the medical bills of these illegal aliens; we might as well provide some cheap preventive measures to decrease hospital visits.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 7:35:50 PM EST

Originally Posted By Atencio:
Every state has OSHA ergonomic regulations and that is all this is. What they are asking is that workers be given long handled tools and if they are not effective in performing the work to justify why. Having done enough yard work in my life I would prefer to stand then having to kneel or bend over to pull weeds or turn dirt, it is hard on your back. A long handled tool is not terribly expensive and since President Bush doesnt seem to care about the illegal alien problem and since California is forced to cover the medical bills of these illegal aliens; we might as well provide some cheap preventive measures to decrease hospital visits.



next up: a law to genetically engineer frogs with wings so they don't bump their asses when they hop
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 7:39:40 PM EST

Originally Posted By TexRdnec:

next up: a law to genetically engineer frogs with wings so they don't bump their asses when they hop



nice intellectually stimulating response
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 7:44:20 PM EST

Originally Posted By Atencio:

Originally Posted By TexRdnec:

next up: a law to genetically engineer frogs with wings so they don't bump their asses when they hop



nice intellectually stimulating response



truth hurt a bit?
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 7:53:20 PM EST
Makes me wonder how many millions of dollars have been paid out by California to cover the cost of illegals with back problems because they have no insurance.

It sounds like their generous welfare program is biting them in the ass again.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 8:32:00 PM EST

Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
California has become a mix of China and France. That's all I can say. I have no other words to describe the place. It's easier in CA to count the things that are legal than are not. You can't legally do anything in that frigging state anymore. Of all the stupid things!



I think you need to get out more and leave the racism in Kentucky, friend. I think we can accomodate preventing injuries in agriculture like in any other industry. Besides, we need to protect these jobs for the homeless who will need work after we cut 'em off and deport the illegals!
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 8:36:39 PM EST
CA =
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 10:01:38 PM EST
i dont get why people are bitching about this.

give them a tool to do their work, which might even INCREASE PRODUCTIVITY because they are able to work longer and clear more fields.

more productivity means more food in the stores, which could in theory lower prices.

with the tool you will have LESS people to do the same amount of work, which means the employer has a lower employee pay scale, and higher profits.
maybe even less illegal workers coming into the country, sounds good to me.

if there are less people getting hurt, then there are less people in the hospital soaking up our medical attention.



at least thats the theory, expect this law to come to a state near you.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 11:02:02 PM EST
It's a plot by the land developers and strip mall / home builders.
Pass enough stupid laws and agriculture will move out of the state (and probably out of the country) which will free up more land for WalMarts, 7-11's ARCO's and Albertos Taco Stands.
Link Posted: 9/24/2004 11:08:47 PM EST
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