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Posted: 9/10/2013 3:34:55 PM EDT

http://www.capradio.org/articles/2013/09/09/lead-ammunition-ban,-trust-act-pass-senate/


The California legislature powered through stacks of bills as it began its final week of the session. More than 150 bills were up for debate Monday.

One of the most controversial came in the Senate, where a proposed ban on lead hunting ammunition drew fierce words from Republican Senator Jim Nielsen.
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Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:36:44 PM EDT
lolz @ da CA
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:37:35 PM EDT
They didn't outlaw Safeway yet, so we're still good for dinner for a little while at least.  
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:37:39 PM EDT
CA deserves everything they vote for.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:40:27 PM EDT
My home state

Fuck it, I live in Missouri now.  Watching that place implode is bittersweet.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:41:33 PM EDT
More for the rest of us in  the free states.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:41:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bden:

They didn't outlaw Safeway yet, so we're still good for dinner for a little while at least.  
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In before the run on frozen dinners.




Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:44:06 PM EDT
meh cali, not even a blip on my give a fuck meter.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:49:42 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By rykn0w:


meh cali, not even a blip on my give a fuck meter.
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Didn't your dimocrats attempt the same thing?

 
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Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:53:02 PM EDT
So no more lead ammo for CA? Maybe the panic will finally end....
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:53:08 PM EDT

"You wanna go against the law-abiding hunters of the state of
California, and eliminate hunting in this state, at least diminish it
one further step, vote yes,” Nielsen said.




The Senate did so with a 23 to 15 vote.



Senators also passed the TRUST Act,
which prohibits local law enforcement agencies from turning
undocumented immigrants who commit minor offenses over to federal
authoritie
s. Senator Kevin de Leon said it’s an important step toward
making immigrants feel welcome. He said they are not feeling like a part
of the community now.







Its a two hit punch for us



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Originally Posted By N1150x:
"You wanna go against the law-abiding hunters of the state of California, and eliminate hunting in this state, at least diminish it one further step, vote yes,” Nielsen said.

The Senate did so with a 23 to 15 vote.

Senators also passed the TRUST Act, which prohibits local law enforcement agencies from turning undocumented immigrants who commit minor offenses over to federal authorities. Senator Kevin de Leon said it’s an important step toward making immigrants feel welcome. He said they are not feeling like a part of the community now.




Its a two hit punch for us


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WTF?!
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:56:41 PM EDT
Born and raised in CA.  Not sorry I left - what a cluster fuck.  If you want to see the potential future, just look thata' way.  This shit spreads like cancer - once it reaches 'critical mass' it is game over ..........................
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:57:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By peekay:
lolz @ da CA
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Don't worry, we'll all be laughing when it comes to you. We all know TX isn't immune form retarded laws. I can't wait till CA invades TX
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:59:52 PM EDT
I don't know what to say to the Californians here. I was lucky to be born here in KY.

If you can, get the fuck out. You will not win. Period.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 3:59:56 PM EDT
First it was NYC.
I wasn't from NYC, so I didn't care.

Then it was Chicago.
I wasn't from Chicago, so I didn't care.

Then it was Cali.
I wasn't from Cali, so I didn't care.

Then it was NY State.
I wasn't from NY State, so I didn't care.

Then it was Illinois.
I wasn't from Illinois, so I didn't care.

Then it was ___________
I wasn't from ___________, so I didn't care.





With all due respect gentlemen, we ain't getting any free'er.
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Originally Posted By BubbaDog81:
Don't worry, we'll all be laughing when it comes to you. We all know TX isn't immune form retarded laws. I can't wait till CA invades TX
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Originally Posted By BubbaDog81:



Originally Posted By peekay:

lolz @ da CA




Don't worry, we'll all be laughing when it comes to you. We all know TX isn't immune form retarded laws. I can't wait till CA invades TX


It has.  Austin.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:02:06 PM EDT
So this basically outlaws hunting in Cali then? I'm sure they will be singing a different tune when people star calling about the 87 deer living in their backyard
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:02:16 PM EDT
Just when you think shit there can't get any worse, they go and pull a stunt like this. Fuck that commie shithole.
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Originally Posted By N1150x:
"You wanna go against the law-abiding hunters of the state of California, and eliminate hunting in this state, at least diminish it one further step, vote yes,” Nielsen said.

The Senate did so with a 23 to 15 vote.

Senators also passed the TRUST Act, which prohibits local law enforcement agencies from turning undocumented immigrants who commit minor offenses over to federal authorities. Senator Kevin de Leon said it’s an important step toward making immigrants feel welcome. He said they are not feeling like a part of the community now.

Its a two hit punch for us
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So now shooting a deer with cheap ammo will get you in trouble, but being an illegal immigrant won't?
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:05:54 PM EDT
Glad I got the fuck out 6 years ago.  I hear they are going after lead fishing weights as well.  More ammo for us I guess
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:07:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By el_hombre:
Glad I got the fuck out 6 years ago.  I hear they are going after lead fishing weights as well.  More ammo for us I guess
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Dont get too excited, were only a few politicians away from the same fate
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:08:17 PM EDT
Holy shit!! I was reading through the article to see if this was a center fire ammo deal or all ammo deal when I read this little jewel

Senators also passed the TRUST Act, which prohibits local law enforcement agencies from turning undocumented immigrants who commit minor offenses over to federal authorities. Senator Kevin de Leon said it’s an important step toward making immigrants feel welcome. He said they are not feeling like a part of the community now.

“In immigrant communities across the state of California, they’re losing faith and they’re losing trust in law enforcement,” he said. “And this is not a good sign.”


Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:10:32 PM EDT
Mostly grew up in California, lived there from '76 til '93. Wouldn't even go back for a visit now.



California is truly living the progressive dream.

       
 
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Originally Posted By michaelreed:
So this basically outlaws hunting in Cali then? I'm sure they will be singing a different tune when people star calling about the 87 deer living in their backyard
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Barns triple x will be legal so hunting will only be for the rich.. Democrats had poor people.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:11:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CGoode0422:
First it was NYC.
I wasn't from NYC, so I didn't care.

Then it was Chicago.
I wasn't from Chicago, so I didn't care.

Then it was Cali.
I wasn't from Cali, so I didn't care.

Then it was NY State.
I wasn't from NY State, so I didn't care.

Then it was Illinois.
I wasn't from Illinois, so I didn't care.

Then it was ___________
I wasn't from ___________, so I didn't care.





With all due respect gentlemen, we ain't getting any free'er.
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Eh, in the short run, we are.  My state (Alaska) passed some pro-gun stuff this year, including expansion of our Stand Your Ground law.  A lot of other states have passed pro-gun stuff.  The only purple state to possibly fall was Colorado and time will tell if they can reverse that in the next election cycle.

It might be more accurate to think that the free states are getting freer with regards to firearms, and the ban states are getting more totalitarian.

There is a long term problem with a third of the US population living behind an iron curtain at the federal level, but in the state level we're doing just fine in Free America.

ETA:  I invested in the Basic Freedom Defense Fund in CO.  I also joined NYSRPA to help their legal fight in the courts.  But honestly, trying to fight back at the polls in the Ban States is futile.  Barring federal action on par with the Civil Rights Act, Connecticut, NY, CA, etc are LOST.  GTFO while you can.  It only takes one victim behind enemy lines to file a lawsuit.  Get your family out and stop feeding the beast.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:12:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cowboy1967:



Barns triple x will be legal so hunting will only be for the rich.. Democrats had poor people.
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Originally Posted By Cowboy1967:
Originally Posted By michaelreed:
So this basically outlaws hunting in Cali then? I'm sure they will be singing a different tune when people star calling about the 87 deer living in their backyard



Barns triple x will be legal so hunting will only be for the rich.. Democrats had poor people.


I'm just a shooter.. Don't hunt so forgive my ignorance but will this lead to overpopulation?
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:12:48 PM EDT
Its CA so I don't give a fuck
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:13:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CGoode0422:
First it was NYC.
I wasn't from NYC, so I didn't care.

Then it was Chicago.
I wasn't from Chicago, so I didn't care.

Then it was Cali.
I wasn't from Cali, so I didn't care.

Then it was NY State.
I wasn't from NY State, so I didn't care.

Then it was Illinois.
I wasn't from Illinois, so I didn't care.

Then it was ___________
I wasn't from ___________, so I didn't care.





With all due respect gentlemen, we ain't getting any free'er.
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It's a disease...and it's spreading....
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:14:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By michaelreed:


Dont get too excited, were only a few politicians away from the same fate
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Originally Posted By michaelreed:
Originally Posted By el_hombre:
Glad I got the fuck out 6 years ago.  I hear they are going after lead fishing weights as well.  More ammo for us I guess


Dont get too excited, were only a few politicians away from the same fate


Ditto for us sandwiched in-between in Oregon.  The left-wing butt-hurt is just as strong here.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:14:06 PM EDT
You get what you vote for.. I got the fuck out of there a long time ago.
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Originally Posted By CGoode0422:


First it was NYC.

I wasn't from NYC, so I didn't care.



Then it was Chicago.

I wasn't from Chicago, so I didn't care.



Then it was Cali.

I wasn't from Cali, so I didn't care.



Then it was NY State.

I wasn't from NY State, so I didn't care.



Then it was Illinois.

I wasn't from Illinois, so I didn't care.



Then it was ___________

I wasn't from ___________, so I didn't care.
With all due respect gentlemen, we ain't getting any free'er.

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Yup. How do you boil a frog?




Incrementalism, the enemy understands it.
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Originally Posted By wav3form:


CA deserves everything they vote for.
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So by that logic, America deserves everything they vote for.

I guess you voted for Obama, huh?



 
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Originally Posted By gmtmaster:


You get what you vote for.. I got the fuck out of there a long time ago.
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What makes you think any member from California voted for these assholes?

Did you vote for Obama too?



 
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:20:45 PM EDT
I guess I'll be the first to say it.

Fuck California.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:20:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By michaelreed:


I'm just a shooter.. Don't hunt so forgive my ignorance but will this lead to overpopulation?
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Originally Posted By michaelreed:
Originally Posted By Cowboy1967:
Originally Posted By michaelreed:
So this basically outlaws hunting in Cali then? I'm sure they will be singing a different tune when people star calling about the 87 deer living in their backyard



Barns triple x will be legal so hunting will only be for the rich.. Democrats had poor people.


I'm just a shooter.. Don't hunt so forgive my ignorance but will this lead to overpopulation?



Ca. Law Makers don't fucking care.  Look at Mountain Lions in California.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:22:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CGoode0422:
First it was NYC.
I wasn't from NYC, so I didn't care.

Then it was Chicago.
I wasn't from Chicago, so I didn't care.

Then it was Cali.
I wasn't from Cali, so I didn't care.

Then it was NY State.
I wasn't from NY State, so I didn't care.

Then it was Illinois.
I wasn't from Illinois, so I didn't care.

Then it was ___________
I wasn't from ___________, so I didn't care.





With all due respect gentlemen, we ain't getting any free'er.
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Yeah, that's nice.

Caring and being able to do something about it are galaxies apart in this case.

California is a train wreck happening in slow motion. All anyone can do at this point is watch it happen and try to get out of the way.
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You get what you vote for.. I got the fuck out of there a long time ago.
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lol



 
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Originally Posted By CGoode0422:


First it was NYC.

I wasn't from NYC, so I didn't care.



Then it was Chicago.

I wasn't from Chicago, so I didn't care.



Then it was Cali.

I wasn't from Cali, so I didn't care.



Then it was NY State.

I wasn't from NY State, so I didn't care.



Then it was Illinois.

I wasn't from Illinois, so I didn't care.



Then it was ___________

I wasn't from ___________, so I didn't care.
With all due respect gentlemen, we ain't getting any free'er.

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Bullshit.  Fuck Ca.  You get what you vote for.  Take your sloganeering else where.



Don't get me wrong bro.  We are living in a soft tyranny.  Our rights are under attack all over the place.   But not when it comes to guns at the state level.



Take Kansas for example.  CCW, Class 3, and switchblades have all been made legal over the past ~8 years.  Compare that to what has happened in Ny, Ct, and Ca.  



 
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:30:03 PM EDT
Christ, I don't even know of any lead-free .22LR ammo.
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I am not 100% sure it's not center fire only. I thought I read that a few weeks ago.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:53:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By watchwatch:

Bullshit.  Fuck Ca.  You get what you vote for.  Take your sloganeering HISTORY else where.

Don't get me wrong bro.  We are living in a soft tyranny.  Our rights are under attack all over the place.   But not when it comes to guns at the state level.

Take Kansas for example.  CCW, Class 3, and switchblades have all been made legal over the past ~8 years.  Compare that to what has happened in Ny, Ct, and Ca.  
 
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Originally Posted By watchwatch:
Originally Posted By CGoode0422:
First it was NYC.
I wasn't from NYC, so I didn't care.

Then it was Chicago.
I wasn't from Chicago, so I didn't care.

Then it was Cali.
I wasn't from Cali, so I didn't care.

Then it was NY State.
I wasn't from NY State, so I didn't care.

Then it was Illinois.
I wasn't from Illinois, so I didn't care.

Then it was ___________
I wasn't from ___________, so I didn't care.





With all due respect gentlemen, we ain't getting any free'er.

Bullshit.  Fuck Ca.  You get what you vote for.  Take your sloganeering HISTORY else where.

Don't get me wrong bro.  We are living in a soft tyranny.  Our rights are under attack all over the place.   But not when it comes to guns at the state level.

Take Kansas for example.  CCW, Class 3, and switchblades have all been made legal over the past ~8 years.  Compare that to what has happened in Ny, Ct, and Ca.  
 



Yet were divided, even amongst this mostly freedom- minded community.
It has all been written.
I believe in "mind your business", so I'm not pushing this on you, but I don't think the answer is "fuck Ca" (with all due respect).
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I am opening up a CA ammo disposal center at the CA/AZ border in Blythe for all of you to send or drop off your icky nasty cancer bullets to for proper disposal.

It's for the children.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:57:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CGoode0422:
First it was NYC.
I wasn't from NYC, so I didn't care.

Then it was Chicago.
I wasn't from Chicago, so I didn't care.

Then it was Cali.
I wasn't from Cali, so I didn't care.

Then it was NY State.
I wasn't from NY State, so I didn't care.

Then it was Illinois.
I wasn't from Illinois, so I didn't care.

Then it was ___________
I wasn't from ___________, so I didn't care.





With all due respect gentlemen, we ain't getting any free'er.
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Wrong

We're becoming two different countries.
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 4:58:43 PM EDT
California has gone full fucking retard.   It's a sinking ship.  Get out while your house is still worth something.

Link Posted: 9/10/2013 5:03:09 PM EDT
So this is law now?
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Originally Posted By michaelreed:


I'm just a shooter.. Don't hunt so forgive my ignorance but will this lead to overpopulation?
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Originally Posted By Cowboy1967:
Originally Posted By michaelreed:
So this basically outlaws hunting in Cali then? I'm sure they will be singing a different tune when people star calling about the 87 deer living in their backyard



Barns triple x will be legal so hunting will only be for the rich.. Democrats had poor people.


I'm just a shooter.. Don't hunt so forgive my ignorance but will this lead to overpopulation?


Yes.The fucking morons will demand the state do something, they'll hire professional hunters on taxpayer dime to cull them down. Just like some areas of NY/NJ.
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Originally Posted By michaelreed:
So this basically outlaws hunting in Cali then? I'm sure they will be singing a different tune when people star calling about the 87 deer living in their backyard
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And what eats deer, those will be the 911 calls I will find entertaining...   Especially when it starts happening in the more exclusive neighborhoods and the limousine liberals start loosing their precious pets or get chased back into their homes by APEX predators
Link Posted: 9/10/2013 5:06:43 PM EDT
Black Market places are setting up already.
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