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Posted: 6/2/2010 3:20:34 PM EDT
Buy physical gold and withdraw your support of the system

When you convert savings to gold bullion in your physical possession you are taking your wealth out of the system. Wealth stored as physical gold cannot be accessed by bankers or by the evils and manipulation of the financial markets.
I cannot overemphasize just how deep and fundamental this difference is. At one end of the spectrum you have a piece of gold that is in your physical possession; at the other end of the spectrum you have wealth that is (purportedly) stored as digits in an electronic account that can be ravaged by investment bankers and the evil games they play. The stock market plunge that occurred on Thursday was purportedly caused by a computer glitch; others call foul play, but what really happened remains unclear. Be that as it may, do you really want to be involved with that ridiculous nonsense? If you have to work to earn your money, do you want to have anything to do with games and fraud? To the bankers I say: how about treating the economy with some respect instead of playing it like a casino? I am appalled by just how far we have strayed from the path.

The financial markets cannot be trusted. Investment bankers cannot be trusted. Politicians cannot be trusted. If you agree with me, you should consider storing at least a portion of your long-term savings as physical gold in your possession. If you keep your money in the system, you are supporting that system, but they will not support you back: you will experience the full force of their value-skimming operations, and the flow of wealth will always be unidirectional. I am assuming that most of us do not want to be bled dry by financial leeches.

Think of it this way: if you keep your wealth in the financial markets you are doing business with investment bankers; when you store your wealth as physical gold you are doing business with your peers. Who would you rather be involved with? Of course due diligence is always required, but which one of these two groups has made a profession out of skimming value from the economy instead of adding wealth to it?

When you buy gold, you are withdrawing your support from the system in a very tangible and effective way, and at the same time you are protecting your hard-earned wealth and probably even amplifying it. Buying gold is much more than a vote of no confidence; its effects are real, and when people eventually start buying gold en masse, even the most smug investment banker will feel the pinch. This is also known as “starving the beast”. Investment bankers will never be able to siphon wealth out of your gold bullion, provided it is real gold in your possession and not “paper gold” and other traps.


Think of a gold coin in your hand, and think of digits on a computer screen being abused by the financial markets. Consider the issues carefully and take your pick.
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:22:07 PM EDT
You're late, buy gold threads are only on Tuesdays...
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:23:14 PM EDT
I have 1/8 of an ounce so far from my one prospecting trip. I hope to clear a few ounces this summer.
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:23:46 PM EDT

Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:24:25 PM EDT
Ammo and seeds!!!
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:24:48 PM EDT

Physical gold can be stolen in a daring heist, though.
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:25:11 PM EDT
Originally Posted By schizrade:
I have 1/8 of an ounce so far from my one prospecting trip. I hope to clear a few ounces this summer.


Want some help?
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:25:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/2/2010 3:25:53 PM EDT by goatkisser]
Better watch it..... Sherrick will slap yer dick if your'e not careful....
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:26:06 PM EDT

Wealth stored as physical gold cannot
be accessed by bankers or by the evils and manipulation of the financial
markets.


Sure they can.  The evil bankers and markets just get gov't to outlaw the ownership of gold.  



It's been done before.
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:26:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/2/2010 3:27:28 PM EDT by Dave_A]







By all means, do this...





And when the gold bubble breaks, you will have 'Darwined' yourself out of relevance....




HA-HA, that 'Evil' free market wins again, crazy-foil-hat-gold-bugs get smushed... Life goes on...




As for the OP's socialist class-warfare BULLSHIT... It got old a long time ago... Like the last time one of 'You people' won a Presidential election (Andrew 'Dumb Hick' Jackson) and DESTROYED the US Economy over his hatred of banks!




 
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:26:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/2/2010 3:28:20 PM EDT by schizrade]





Originally Posted By Schadenfreuda:





Originally Posted By schizrade:


I have 1/8 of an ounce so far from my one prospecting trip. I hope to clear a few ounces this summer.






Want some help?



No, not really.





Besides, Gold can be found in damn near all 50 states. Get out there.





 
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:29:02 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Lancair:
Physical gold can be stolen in a daring heist, though.


ammo and seeds cant be? o
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:29:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/2/2010 3:32:36 PM EDT by emerson-bigguns]
If you want withdraw your support just quit working after you make $8900 each year.
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:29:49 PM EDT



Originally Posted By Pacu44:



Originally Posted By Lancair:


Physical gold can be stolen in a daring heist, though.




ammo and seeds cant be? o


Money put in the bank, or in an investment account can't be...



Even if the bank gets robbed...



 
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:30:46 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Dave_A:


By all means, do this...

And when the gold bubble breaks, you will have 'Darwined' yourself out of relevance....

HA-HA, that 'Evil' free market wins again, crazy-foil-hat-gold-bugs get smushed... Life goes on...

As for the OP's socialist class-warfare BULLSHIT... It got old a long time ago... Like the last time one of 'You people' won a Presidential election (Andrew 'Dumb Hick' Jackson) and DESTROYED the US Economy over his hatred of banks!
 


Yeah, the fractional reserve system is better MUHAHAHAHAHAHA....

at least 100 bucks was worth 100 bucks 97 years later... cant say that for your fractional reserve note
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:30:58 PM EDT



Originally Posted By Dave_A:





Originally Posted By Pacu44:


Originally Posted By Lancair:


Physical gold can be stolen in a daring heist, though.




ammo and seeds cant be? o


Money put in the bank, or in an investment account can't be...



Even if the bank gets robbed...

 


Dave, why the hell do you have a Tank below your avatar?



 
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:31:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/2/2010 3:32:34 PM EDT by Pacu44]
Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Originally Posted By Pacu44:
Originally Posted By Lancair:
Physical gold can be stolen in a daring heist, though.


ammo and seeds cant be? o

Money put in the bank, or in an investment account can't be...

Even if the bank gets robbed...
 


yeah, wrong... purchasing power with each sheet of paper through a printing press, thats taxation and I didnt vote for any Fed Reserve board member... Days are numbered for the Fed..
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:31:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/2/2010 3:35:24 PM EDT by Dave_A]





Originally Posted By Pacu44:





Originally Posted By Dave_A:










By all means, do this...





And when the gold bubble breaks, you will have 'Darwined' yourself out of relevance....





HA-HA, that 'Evil' free market wins again, crazy-foil-hat-gold-bugs get smushed... Life goes on...





As for the OP's socialist class-warfare BULLSHIT... It got old a long time ago... Like the last time one of 'You people' won a Presidential election (Andrew 'Dumb Hick' Jackson) and DESTROYED the US Economy over his hatred of banks!


 






Yeah, the fractional reserve system is better MUHAHAHAHAHAHA....





Infinitely better.





The gold standard is a SUICIDE PACT. It can only lead to total currency collapse by way of deflation - there is NO other possible outcome.








at least 100 bucks was worth 100 bucks 97 years later... cant say that for your fractional reserve note





No, it wasn't...





Government price manipulation does not equate to actual value.






 
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:32:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/2/2010 3:32:59 PM EDT by Dave_A]





Originally Posted By schizrade:
Originally Posted By Dave_A:
Originally Posted By Pacu44:




Originally Posted By Lancair:




Physical gold can be stolen in a daring heist, though.






ammo and seeds cant be? o




Money put in the bank, or in an investment account can't be...





Even if the bank gets robbed...


 



Dave, why the hell do you have a Tank below your avatar?


 



Same reason I have SPC/ARNG above it...





Military Service.



The fact that my MOS is 'Tank Crewman' makes it even more fitting.





 
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:34:16 PM EDT



Originally Posted By Dave_A:





Originally Posted By schizrade:




Originally Posted By Dave_A:




Originally Posted By Pacu44:


Originally Posted By Lancair:


Physical gold can be stolen in a daring heist, though.




ammo and seeds cant be? o


Money put in the bank, or in an investment account can't be...



Even if the bank gets robbed...

 


Dave, why the hell do you have a Tank below your avatar?

 


Same reason I have SPC/ARNG above it...



Military Service.



The fact that my MOS is 'Tank Crewman' makes it even more fitting.

 


Well that makes sense. I thought you got it for battle in GD stamping out troofers or something.








 
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:34:24 PM EDT
Let me pass this info along to the folks I know who have made and have millions invested in the markets.  I think they will be disappointed that they didn't buy hunks of metal instead.......
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:34:28 PM EDT



Originally Posted By Pacu44:



Originally Posted By Dave_A:




Originally Posted By Pacu44:


Originally Posted By Lancair:


Physical gold can be stolen in a daring heist, though.




ammo and seeds cant be? o


Money put in the bank, or in an investment account can't be...



Even if the bank gets robbed...

 




yeah, wrong... purchasing power with each sheet of paper through a printing press, thats taxation and I didnt vote for any Fed Reserve board member... Days are numbered for the Fed..


Better check your numbers... We had deflation, not inflation last year...



It's not taxation...



And the Fed's 'days' are not in any way numbered - you foil-hat types will still be barking at the moon about it in 50 years...
 
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:34:35 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Originally Posted By Pacu44:
Originally Posted By Dave_A:


By all means, do this...

And when the gold bubble breaks, you will have 'Darwined' yourself out of relevance....

HA-HA, that 'Evil' free market wins again, crazy-foil-hat-gold-bugs get smushed... Life goes on...

As for the OP's socialist class-warfare BULLSHIT... It got old a long time ago... Like the last time one of 'You people' won a Presidential election (Andrew 'Dumb Hick' Jackson) and DESTROYED the US Economy over his hatred of banks!
 


Yeah, the fractional reserve system is better MUHAHAHAHAHAHA....

Infinitely better.

The gold standard is a SUICIDE PACT.


at least 100 bucks was worth 100 bucks 97 years later... cant say that for your fractional reserve note

No, it wasn't...

Government price manipulation does not equate to actual value.



 


Dave, you are obviously a statist... house of cards will crumble due to the greed... interest on money created out of nothing is coming to an end... END THE FED...

and you are wrong... FREEDOM with sound money will be chosen every time by those aware of the choice... just ask people
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:35:39 PM EDT



Originally Posted By Pacu44:



Originally Posted By Dave_A:




Originally Posted By Pacu44:


Originally Posted By Dave_A:






By all means, do this...



And when the gold bubble breaks, you will have 'Darwined' yourself out of relevance....



HA-HA, that 'Evil' free market wins again, crazy-foil-hat-gold-bugs get smushed... Life goes on...



As for the OP's socialist class-warfare BULLSHIT... It got old a long time ago... Like the last time one of 'You people' won a Presidential election (Andrew 'Dumb Hick' Jackson) and DESTROYED the US Economy over his hatred of banks!

 




Yeah, the fractional reserve system is better MUHAHAHAHAHAHA....



Infinitely better.



The gold standard is a SUICIDE PACT.





at least 100 bucks was worth 100 bucks 97 years later... cant say that for your fractional reserve note



No, it wasn't...



Government price manipulation does not equate to actual value.







 




Dave, you are obviously a statist... house of cards will crumble due to the greed... interest on money created out of nothing is coming to an end... END THE FED...



and you are wrong... FREEDOM with sound money will be chosen every time by those aware of the choice... just ask people


You need to ask yourself WHY the world got off of the Gold standard. If you can look into that, you will have your answer.



 
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:36:08 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Originally Posted By Pacu44:
Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Originally Posted By Pacu44:
Originally Posted By Lancair:
Physical gold can be stolen in a daring heist, though.


ammo and seeds cant be? o

Money put in the bank, or in an investment account can't be...

Even if the bank gets robbed...
 


yeah, wrong... purchasing power with each sheet of paper through a printing press, thats taxation and I didnt vote for any Fed Reserve board member... Days are numbered for the Fed..

Better check your numbers... We had deflation, not inflation last year...

It's not taxation...

And the Fed's 'days' are not in any way numbered - you foil-hat types will still be barking at the moon about it in 50 years...


 


really, cause Food and gas is up... sorry... last year is 1/97... what a suit cost you back in the day? 20 bucks? what is it now? sorry DAVE, look at the system, 100 year incremints
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:36:08 PM EDT
OK Goldbugs, serious question.



Does any country in world currently use a currency that is either backed by gold/silver, or use gold/silver as its currency? If yes, which ones.
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:38:27 PM EDT
Originally Posted By mcornell:
OK Goldbugs, serious question.

Does any country in world currently use a currency that is either backed by gold/silver, or use gold/silver as its currency? If yes, which ones.


Ask yourself why there is a rush from all countries to buy gold? Look at IRAN, what they do today? what is China doing? What is India doing? What is Saudi doing?

they aint buying treasuries like Dave would have you believe,

did you read the original article in this thread? ? ? ? ?
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:38:35 PM EDT



Originally Posted By Pacu44:



Originally Posted By Dave_A:




Originally Posted By Pacu44:


Originally Posted By Dave_A:






By all means, do this...



And when the gold bubble breaks, you will have 'Darwined' yourself out of relevance....



HA-HA, that 'Evil' free market wins again, crazy-foil-hat-gold-bugs get smushed... Life goes on...



As for the OP's socialist class-warfare BULLSHIT... It got old a long time ago... Like the last time one of 'You people' won a Presidential election (Andrew 'Dumb Hick' Jackson) and DESTROYED the US Economy over his hatred of banks!

 




Yeah, the fractional reserve system is better MUHAHAHAHAHAHA....



Infinitely better.



The gold standard is a SUICIDE PACT.





at least 100 bucks was worth 100 bucks 97 years later... cant say that for your fractional reserve note



No, it wasn't...



Government price manipulation does not equate to actual value.







 




Dave, you are obviously a statist...



You're obviously a socialist...



I'm supporting a proven system that uses the functioning of the free market to set value...



You're supporting a government-decree based system out of complaints about 'greed'...



How RED of you...





house of cards will crumble due to the greed...



Socialist bullshit...



interest on money created out of nothing is coming to an end...



It's not created out of nothing... It's created by supply and demand....



The same as the value of everything else bought or sold...





END THE FED...



Not happening... But keep barking at that moon...



and you are wrong... FREEDOM with sound money will be chosen every time by those aware of the choice... just ask people



There is nothing 'FREE' about government price-fixing money to chunks of shiny metal...



It's the most anti-freedom monetary system possible....











 
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:39:12 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:39:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By mcornell:
OK Goldbugs, serious question.

Does any country in world currently use a currency that is either backed by gold/silver, or use gold/silver as its currency? If yes, which ones.


I'm guessing the <third world countries use some sort of barter system for precious metals and stones.  Seems to be working out pretty good for them.  We can all look forward to living in mud huts and getting water from a stream in buckets.
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:41:30 PM EDT
What the hell does owning gold have to do with supporting the system?  If I buy gold do I get to stop paying taxes?
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:43:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/2/2010 3:47:20 PM EDT by Dave_A]





Originally Posted By Pacu44:





Originally Posted By Dave_A:
Originally Posted By Pacu44:




Originally Posted By Dave_A:
Originally Posted By Pacu44:




Originally Posted By Lancair:




Physical gold can be stolen in a daring heist, though.






ammo and seeds cant be? o




Money put in the bank, or in an investment account can't be...





Even if the bank gets robbed...


 






yeah, wrong... purchasing power with each sheet of paper through a printing press, thats taxation and I didnt vote for any Fed Reserve board member... Days are numbered for the Fed..



Better check your numbers... We had deflation, not inflation last year...





It's not taxation...





And the Fed's 'days' are not in any way numbered - you foil-hat types will still be barking at the moon about it in 50 years...
 






really, cause Food and gas is up... sorry... last year is 1/97...





Overall inflation was negative... And no, last year is not 1997.





what a suit cost you back in the day? 20 bucks? what is it now?





$170 for Army Dress Blues and a 3-piece suit... Hand made in the Republic of Korea.





That argument is bullshit, you all know it, but you still use it...





The quality, types of materials (No synthetics back then) and the other non-economic factors behind a modern suit - plus the market wage that modern employees demand - make your argument absurd...




The growth in the size of the economy REQUIRES a growth in the money supply to match.



And the advancements in technology we have experienced, GREATLY increase the cost of living as new tech becomes 'Must Have' - even if there were zero% price inflation...




Further, 'back then' Suits were every-day wear items (economies of scale), the proper comparison would be a suit to jeans and a T-shirt/jacket... Or to khaki pants & a button down, and windbreaker...






sorry DAVE, look at the system, 100 year incremints





The system has produced more wealth and prosperity SINCE WE FOUNDED THE FED, than it has before...





If we had dumped the dead-weight of the gold standard in 1913, we would be EVEN FURTHER AHEAD - and might have skipped that whole 'Great Depression' thing...



 
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:44:14 PM EDT



Originally Posted By SultanOfBrunei:


Spam?



Or is the OP quoting this blog? - http://www.goldsubject.com/buy-gold-and-withdraw-your-support-of-the-system/


Tinfoil Spam, probably from that blog.



 
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:47:23 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Originally Posted By Pacu44:
Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Originally Posted By Pacu44:
Originally Posted By Dave_A:


By all means, do this...

And when the gold bubble breaks, you will have 'Darwined' yourself out of relevance....

HA-HA, that 'Evil' free market wins again, crazy-foil-hat-gold-bugs get smushed... Life goes on...

As for the OP's socialist class-warfare BULLSHIT... It got old a long time ago... Like the last time one of 'You people' won a Presidential election (Andrew 'Dumb Hick' Jackson) and DESTROYED the US Economy over his hatred of banks!
 


Yeah, the fractional reserve system is better MUHAHAHAHAHAHA....

Infinitely better.

The gold standard is a SUICIDE PACT.


at least 100 bucks was worth 100 bucks 97 years later... cant say that for your fractional reserve note

No, it wasn't...

Government price manipulation does not equate to actual value.



 


Dave, you are obviously a statist...

You're obviously a socialist...

I'm supporting a proven system that uses the functioning of the free market to set value...

You're supporting a government-decree based system out of complaints about 'greed'...

How RED of you...


house of cards will crumble due to the greed...

Socialist bullshit...

interest on money created out of nothing is coming to an end...

It's not created out of nothing... It's created by supply and demand....

The same as the value of everything else bought or sold...


END THE FED...

Not happening... But keep barking at that moon...

and you are wrong... FREEDOM with sound money will be chosen every time by those aware of the choice... just ask people

There is nothing 'FREE' about government price-fixing money to chunks of shiny metal...

It's the most anti-freedom monetary system possible....




 


IT IS LAW, the Constitution says Congress sets the value of Gold and Silver... 1913 Federal Reserve ACT cannot change the supreme law of the land... Only an amendment can change the Constitution not a Congressional ACT,,, doing so is socialist dave...

calling me names and lying about the law doesnt make it right or ok... it is unlawful, the Fed, and is the inflation since 1914 is a tax and no citizent can vote on who leads the cartel of private banks leader on the inflation of fiat currency and credit...

I am in the right, The founders are with me and sound money is owed to the United States citizens...

Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:51:12 PM EDT
Pacu, are you the author of that piece?

did you intend to represent that as your work?
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:52:51 PM EDT
Originally Posted By tommytrauma:
Pacu, are you the author of that piece?

did you intend to represent that as your work?

No and No....


http://www.goldsubject.com/buy-gold-and-withdraw-your-support-of-the-system/


Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:53:22 PM EDT
I bought gold back before it was the 'in' thing to do. Now I have doubled my money. I guess my tin foil must be on too tight, right. Just wait, when gold hit $5k and ounce people are going to be kicking themselves. Oh yeah, I also own a 365 acre gold mine...how's that for planning a head.
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:53:28 PM EDT
Gold?  Meh.

Rice, beans, and .45ACP.  All a man needs.

(I brew my own beer)

Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:54:33 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Dave_A:


By all means, do this...

And when the gold bubble breaks, you will have 'Darwined' yourself out of relevance....

HA-HA, that 'Evil' free market wins again, crazy-foil-hat-gold-bugs get smushed... Life goes on...

As for the OP's socialist class-warfare BULLSHIT... It got old a long time ago... Like the last time one of 'You people' won a Presidential election (Andrew 'Dumb Hick' Jackson) and DESTROYED the US Economy over his hatred of banks!
 


Calling other members names, is that a coc violation?
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:55:43 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SultanOfBrunei:
Spam?

Or is the OP quoting this blog? - http://www.goldsubject.com/buy-gold-and-withdraw-your-support-of-the-system/


yes. thought i added the link...
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:58:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/2/2010 3:58:49 PM EDT by Dave_A]





Originally Posted By NavyDoc1:





Originally Posted By Dave_A:










By all means, do this...





And when the gold bubble breaks, you will have 'Darwined' yourself out of relevance....





HA-HA, that 'Evil' free market wins again, crazy-foil-hat-gold-bugs get smushed... Life goes on...





As for the OP's socialist class-warfare BULLSHIT... It got old a long time ago... Like the last time one of 'You people' won a Presidential election (Andrew 'Dumb Hick' Jackson) and DESTROYED the US Economy over his hatred of banks!


 






Calling other members names, is that a coc violation?



Referencing an ideology as 'crazy', 'foil hat', or 'gold buggery' is not a CoC violation. The fact that the OP subscribes to said ideology does not make it a personal attack on him.





Neither is calling someone's ideology socialist...





And I am not aware that Andrew Jackson is a member here... Since he's long dead...





But nice try...



You should really give up the , as I'm not going to violate the CoC...
 
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:58:16 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SultanOfBrunei:
Spam?

Or is the OP quoting this blog? - http://www.goldsubject.com/buy-gold-and-withdraw-your-support-of-the-system/


spam is a great food to stock up on.  very filling and full of stuff.



Link Posted: 6/2/2010 3:59:37 PM EDT



Originally Posted By Drew599:


I bought gold back before it was the 'in' thing to do. Now I have doubled my money. I guess my tin foil must be on too tight, right. Just wait, when gold hit $5k and ounce people are going to be kicking themselves. Oh yeah, I also own a 365 acre gold mine...how's that for planning a head.


Gold won't hit 5k/oz in our lifetimes...



In fact, the price will be dropping within the next few years, as the 'recession premium' (eg, bubble) ends....



 
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 4:00:39 PM EDT
Well, I wasn't going to, but because you said to......
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 4:03:15 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Klee:
Ammo and seeds!!!


seeds stored in a vault in the arctic that they will mail to you post apocalypse, no less....


GR
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 4:04:02 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Originally Posted By NavyDoc1:
Originally Posted By Dave_A:


By all means, do this...

And when the gold bubble breaks, you will have 'Darwined' yourself out of relevance....

HA-HA, that 'Evil' free market wins again, crazy-foil-hat-gold-bugs get smushed... Life goes on...

As for the OP's socialist class-warfare BULLSHIT... It got old a long time ago... Like the last time one of 'You people' won a Presidential election (Andrew 'Dumb Hick' Jackson) and DESTROYED the US Economy over his hatred of banks!
 


Calling other members names, is that a coc violation?

Referencing an ideology as 'crazy', 'foil hat', or 'gold buggery' is not a CoC violation. The fact that the OP subscribes to said ideology does not make it a personal attack on him.

Neither is calling someone's ideology socialist...

And I am not aware that Andrew Jackson is a member here... Since he's long dead...

But nice try...

You should really give up the , as I'm not going to violate the CoC...


 


LOL. I wouldn't call you an idiot, but your absolutist statements from someone who has very little life experience are absolutely retarded! I call BS on your BS because, although I would never call you a retarded Spec-4 OCS failure, Charles, your ideas certainly fit the mold.
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 4:05:51 PM EDT



Originally Posted By Pacu44:



Originally Posted By Dave_A:




Originally Posted By Pacu44:


Originally Posted By Dave_A:




Originally Posted By Pacu44:


Originally Posted By Dave_A:






By all means, do this...



And when the gold bubble breaks, you will have 'Darwined' yourself out of relevance....



HA-HA, that 'Evil' free market wins again, crazy-foil-hat-gold-bugs get smushed... Life goes on...



As for the OP's socialist class-warfare BULLSHIT... It got old a long time ago... Like the last time one of 'You people' won a Presidential election (Andrew 'Dumb Hick' Jackson) and DESTROYED the US Economy over his hatred of banks!

 




Yeah, the fractional reserve system is better MUHAHAHAHAHAHA....



Infinitely better.



The gold standard is a SUICIDE PACT.





at least 100 bucks was worth 100 bucks 97 years later... cant say that for your fractional reserve note



No, it wasn't...



Government price manipulation does not equate to actual value.







 




Dave, you are obviously a statist...



You're obviously a socialist...



I'm supporting a proven system that uses the functioning of the free market to set value...



You're supporting a government-decree based system out of complaints about 'greed'...



How RED of you...





house of cards will crumble due to the greed...



Socialist bullshit...



interest on money created out of nothing is coming to an end...



It's not created out of nothing... It's created by supply and demand....



The same as the value of everything else bought or sold...





END THE FED...



Not happening... But keep barking at that moon...




and you are wrong... FREEDOM with sound money will be chosen every time by those aware of the choice... just ask people



There is nothing 'FREE' about government price-fixing money to chunks of shiny metal...



It's the most anti-freedom monetary system possible....









 




IT IS LAW, the Constitution says Congress sets the value of Gold and Silver...



No, the Constitution says the Congress sets the value of MONEY.



It does NOT in any way require that money to be gold or silver - in fact, there is NO MENTION OF GOLD OR SILVER in any part of the Constitution that applies to the FEDERAL government.



The ONLY mention of either GOLD or SILVER is in Article 1 Section 10, as part of a clause making THE INDIVIDUAL STATES forbidden to have their own money....



The US Government can make money out of whatever it wants.





1913 Federal Reserve ACT cannot change the supreme law of the land... Only an amendment can change the Constitution not a Congressional ACT,,, doing so is socialist dave...



No, actually, it's not Socialist...



And since the Constitution DOES NOT REQUIRE GOLD OR SILVER MONEY.... There's no conflict.



The Federal Reserve Act is as Constitutional as the 2nd Bank of the United States - established buy JAMES MADISON...



If JAMES MADISON thought a central bank was Constitutional, who are YOU to disagree with him?





calling me names and lying about the law doesnt make it right or ok...



I haven't called YOU a name... Not once.



And I'm not lying about the law...



You, however - by claiming the Constitution mandates gold, ARE (either that, or you simply have never read it).





it is unlawful, the Fed,



NOT EVEN CLOSE. See James Madison and 2BOUS



and is the inflation since 1914 is a tax and no citizent can vote on



No, inflation is not a tax at all... It's a natural economic phenomenon required for a sucessful economy.



Further, from 1914 to the Nixon administration, we were still on the (FUBAR) gold standard





who leads the cartel of private banks leader on the inflation of fiat currency and credit...



Bullshit...



Most of the 'inflation' you are whining about happened while we were STILL ON THE FUCKING GOLD STANDARD





I am in the right, The founders are with me and sound money is owed to the United States citizens...



No, the Founders were with me - at least Madison and Hamilton...



You know 'Father of the Constitution' Madison?











 
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 4:05:59 PM EDT
Yeah and over a year ago people were saying it won't go over $1K an ounce. Right now its at $1,225 an ounce. People can only down play gold so much before everyone starts running towards it. Also please explain how wanting to end the Federal Reserve is socialist? So were the founding father socialist? They didn't want a central bank because they fought to end that bullshit...one of the things they fought for.
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 4:06:02 PM EDT



Originally Posted By Pacu44:

Wealth stored as physical gold cannot be accessed by bankers or by the evils and manipulation of the financial markets.





It also can't be used by those same evil doers to invest and create more wealth.

 



But, do what you want with your money. When it comes time to retire, if you ask me for a dime you're going to get decked.
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 4:06:39 PM EDT
I prefer brass cartridge cases.
Link Posted: 6/2/2010 4:09:19 PM EDT



Originally Posted By NavyDoc1:



Originally Posted By Dave_A:




Originally Posted By NavyDoc1:


Originally Posted By Dave_A:






By all means, do this...



And when the gold bubble breaks, you will have 'Darwined' yourself out of relevance....



HA-HA, that 'Evil' free market wins again, crazy-foil-hat-gold-bugs get smushed... Life goes on...



As for the OP's socialist class-warfare BULLSHIT... It got old a long time ago... Like the last time one of 'You people' won a Presidential election (Andrew 'Dumb Hick' Jackson) and DESTROYED the US Economy over his hatred of banks!

 




Calling other members names, is that a coc violation?


Referencing an ideology as 'crazy', 'foil hat', or 'gold buggery' is not a CoC violation. The fact that the OP subscribes to said ideology does not make it a personal attack on him.



Neither is calling someone's ideology socialist...



And I am not aware that Andrew Jackson is a member here... Since he's long dead...



But nice try...



You should really give up the
, as I'm not going to violate the CoC...





 




LOL. I wouldn't call you an idiot, but your absolutist statements from someone who has very little life experience are absolutely retarded! I call BS on your BS because, although I would never call you a retarded Spec-4 OCS failure, Charles, your ideas certainly fit the mold.


So what exactly is an O-4 Medical Officer doing running around on an internet forum, stalking an E-4 and heckling him from the sidelines?



You don't actually join the discussion, you just sit there & chuck shit like that out.... Hoping to get a rise out of me (or whatever)...



For all the 'life experience' you have, you don't seem to have the ability to actually JOIN these monetary policy discussions (or maybe you have the ability, but 'feel better' chucking shit into the ring from the peanut gallery), so it would be much better for all involved if you kept the personal crap to yourself...



Contribute to the discussion... Or go shit in some other thread....



 
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