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Posted: 1/25/2009 11:17:08 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/25/2009 11:17:56 AM EDT
[#1]
Pass
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 11:18:05 AM EDT
[#2]
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 11:19:37 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
I almost bought one of those a number of years ago.  Now I almost wish I had - it's a funny firearm.


Likewise.  Saw a couple at gunshows in Houston when I lived in TX.  One was set up with a laser.  They're kind of cool, kind of crazy.

Link Posted: 1/25/2009 11:19:53 AM EDT
[#4]
top eject?
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 11:20:01 AM EDT
[#5]
Buhmaster made them for tank crews but the army didnt like them.
Its priced alittle high I saw one at the last gun show for $500 and no one would touch it.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 11:20:51 AM EDT
[#6]
Ewwwwwwwww
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 11:20:51 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Buhmaster made them for tank crews but the army didnt like them.
Its priced alittle high I saw one at the last gun show for $500 and no one would touch it.


For some reason I'm remembering it being for chopper crews but that's just what I heard, I have no way to be certain.

Link Posted: 1/25/2009 11:21:03 AM EDT
[#8]
Does it come with a paper bag to wear over your head?
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 11:22:33 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/25/2009 11:24:54 AM EDT
[#10]
I would think this would have some collector value , since Bushmaster name is attached to it . It looks very proto type ish  ,I am sure they didnt make to many of these and since then Bushmaster has gone on to be a very succesfull name in the ar Community.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 11:26:29 AM EDT
[#11]
It's an interesting gun.  It takes slightly modified versions of the M-16 bolt and carrier.

The biggest problem with them is that the bolt carrier system rides on two rails that are
welded into the receiver, and sometimes one of those welds breaks, allowing the rail to
move and ring like a tuning fork when you shoot it.   Keep shooting it and the other weld
will eventually break.  

If the gun makes a ringing noise when fired, the rail needs to be welded back down.

What you might not get about this design from the picture is that the pistol grip assembly
swivels from side to side.  Interesting.


CJ
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 11:27:11 AM EDT
[#12]
Friend of mine used to own one.  Jammed like a motherfucker.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:03:47 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Buhmaster made them for tank crews but the army didnt like them.
Its priced alittle high I saw one at the last gun show for $500 and no one would touch it.


For some reason I'm remembering it being for chopper crews but that's just what I heard, I have no way to be certain.




+1

I though Bushmaster originally made them as a design for aircrews or pilots to use as emergency/survival guns if they went down behind enemy lines or something like that.  Much more effective than a handgun, but not as large as a rifle or even SMG.




The Bushmaster was based on a AF project into PDWs. Colt made a test gun called the IMP in 221 Fireball. But the military never went with it, Far as I know the Bushmaster version was never in the running for US adoption.

Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:06:26 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Buhmaster made them for tank crews but the army didnt like them.
Its priced alittle high I saw one at the last gun show for $500 and no one would touch it.


Last one I held belonged to a friend who traded it for a $1200 or so UZI recently.  It is a collector's gun.  I would have been really tempted at 5 bills.


Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:07:08 PM EDT
[#15]
The orinal concept was way ahead of its time, a true PDW, as it was chambered for a true PDW cartridge, not 5.56 X 45.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:35:04 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
top eject?


Yes...but the whole reciever rotates, so it actually ejects to the left or right depending on which way it's swiveled.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:39:06 PM EDT
[#17]
They made some full auto ones as well. I know I've seen it forsale around.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:42:11 PM EDT
[#18]
i handled one a while back you can move the stock from side to side
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:43:20 PM EDT
[#19]
It the gun in their logo.

Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:44:00 PM EDT
[#20]
Bushmaster is the actual name of the gun itself.

The company that originally made them isn't connected to  Bushmaster firearms at all.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:44:19 PM EDT
[#21]
How is that not an SBR?
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:46:32 PM EDT
[#22]
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How is that not an SBR?


Pistol AFAIK.

Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:46:37 PM EDT
[#23]
the one I had was an excellent little weapon,,
great in any vehicle, ran like a rapped ape with any round you put in it (in the correct caliber of course) did not Aim fire Great, lousy groups but, it did keep the rounds center of mass predominatly. IF I was spending days in the bush in a tank, HumVee or Helo, I would not feel ungunned in a fire fight.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:51:43 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Bushmaster is the actual name of the gun itself.

The company that originally made them isn't connected to  Bushmaster firearms at all.



You might want to re-check your facts on that one.  
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:52:44 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Bushmaster is the actual name of the gun itself.

The company that originally made them isn't connected to  Bushmaster firearms at all.


Mack Gwinn [MGI] was the designer on the Bushmaster.

Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:55:13 PM EDT
[#26]
Biggerhammer has a nice info page

http://www.biggerhammer.net/armpistol/
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:55:23 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
It the gun in their logo.



beat me to it
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 12:57:03 PM EDT
[#28]
Only time i've seen one was on a gang banger show on Nat geo.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 1:04:23 PM EDT
[#29]
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Only time i've seen one was on a gang banger show on Nat geo.


I saw that too. I was thinking, "how the fuck did those pieces of shit get a Bushmaster?"
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 1:08:44 PM EDT
[#30]
My understanding was they do not run very well.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 1:13:41 PM EDT
[#31]
I've fired a select fire "armpistol", but it really was a piece of crap.  It only liked to run with the steel SA-80 mags and was stone cold jammo-matic with everything else.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 1:20:06 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Only time i've seen one was on a gang banger show on Nat geo.


I saw that too. I was thinking, "how the fuck did those pieces of shit get a Bushmaster?"


I believe those where "movie props"....I have seen "ganger banger" shows on 60 min and they all have the same SKS,M10 and AKs. And I wasn't aware that bangers had a stardard issue program.

Link Posted: 1/25/2009 2:15:11 PM EDT
[#33]
Shot one back in the early 80's, ran good with USGI mags, could have bought it for $250.00, money was tight back then.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 2:38:16 PM EDT
[#34]
ugly as hell
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 2:43:21 PM EDT
[#35]
I always wanted one of these...

Link Posted: 1/25/2009 3:31:27 PM EDT
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Quoted:
I always wanted one of these...

http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Firearms/Subs/Colt_SCAMP.jpg


The Colt SCAMP......Yep me too
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 3:51:17 PM EDT
[#37]
They made a rifle based on this too.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 4:59:41 PM EDT
[#38]
I saw one in a pawn shop once a few years ago. I had no idea what the hell it was and passed right by it for $300 or IIRC.

Sure looks like a SBR to me too. I bet if they had become popular the ATF would have ruled them a SBR.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 6:09:25 PM EDT
[#39]
Uhhhh....it's in their logo.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 6:22:03 PM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Only time i've seen one was on a gang banger show on Nat geo.


I saw that too. I was thinking, "how the fuck did those pieces of shit get a Bushmaster?"


Theft.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 6:25:13 PM EDT
[#41]
well if it was 500$ id buy it but thats about all i can say about it
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 6:42:24 PM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
I saw one in a pawn shop once a few years ago. I had no idea what the hell it was and passed right by it for $300 or IIRC.

Sure looks like a SBR to me too. I bet if they had become popular the ATF would have ruled them a SBR.



It has no stock...and the receiver is only the length of your forearm. The Colt IMP/Davis arm gun was to have a brace that would help stabulise it. But the Bushmaster didn't have one. I don't know if that would have been ruled as a stock by the ATF or Mr Gwinn just didn't want to use it.

Link Posted: 1/25/2009 6:45:31 PM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I saw one in a pawn shop once a few years ago. I had no idea what the hell it was and passed right by it for $300 or IIRC.

Sure looks like a SBR to me too. I bet if they had become popular the ATF would have ruled them a SBR.



It has no stock...and the receiver is only the length of your forearm. The Colt IMP/Davis arm gun was to have a brace that would help stabulise it. But the Bushmaster didn't have one. I don't know if that would have been ruled as a stock by the ATF or Mr Gwinn just didn't want to use it.



My point is it looks like it could be fired from the shoulder easily as is.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 7:15:01 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I saw one in a pawn shop once a few years ago. I had no idea what the hell it was and passed right by it for $300 or IIRC.

Sure looks like a SBR to me too. I bet if they had become popular the ATF would have ruled them a SBR.



It has no stock...and the receiver is only the length of your forearm. The Colt IMP/Davis arm gun was to have a brace that would help stabulise it. But the Bushmaster didn't have one. I don't know if that would have been ruled as a stock by the ATF or Mr Gwinn just didn't want to use it.



My point is it looks like it could be fired from the shoulder easily as is.


Maybe...but not any more than a AR15 pistol could be.

Link Posted: 1/25/2009 7:16:07 PM EDT
[#45]
reminds me of the AK that somebody had set up like a bullpup.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 7:18:04 PM EDT
[#46]
A bullpup AR? Not like this though:



IMO, they're both ugly
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 7:23:18 PM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
reminds me of the AK that somebody had set up like a bullpup.


Top half is very much AK piston, and the bottom is AR15 and its very easy to take a part. The one in the OPs pics is a older model with a top mounted charging knob. The newer guns had a side mount.

Link Posted: 1/25/2009 7:26:01 PM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:
A bullpup AR? Not like this though:

http://www.riflesnguns.com/files/images/Bushmaster.jpg

IMO, they're both ugly


A friend had one of those. Felt like I was shooting a piece of aluminum gutter and it had a staple gun like trigger. After two or three mags it gets too hot to shoot.
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 7:48:30 PM EDT
[#49]
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A bullpup AR? Not like this though:

http://www.riflesnguns.com/files/images/Bushmaster.jpg

IMO, they're both ugly


I made a model of that for Operation Flashpoint a while ago
Link Posted: 1/25/2009 7:51:10 PM EDT
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