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Posted: 10/5/2005 11:32:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/5/2005 12:02:11 PM EDT by Jack19]
illegal Refugees from Mexico who cross our borders every night?????

I'm a Republican voter, and a Conservative, but this strikes me as very strange. Is it more important to defend the US against germs (that may never materialize), or a human invasion (that crosses the border to a tune of 4000 people every night...who by the way...carry germs?).

Bush Pushes for Military to Quarantine Avian Flu Breakout

Wednesday, October 05, 2005

WASHINGTON — President Bush, increasingly concerned about a possible avian flu pandemic, revealed Tuesday that any part of the country where the virus breaks out could likely be quarantined and that he is considering using the military to enforce it.

"The best way to deal with a pandemic is to isolate it and keep it isolated in the region in which it begins," he said during a wide-ranging Rose Garden (search) news conference.

The president was asked if his recent talk of giving the military the lead in responding to large natural disasters such as Hurricane Katrina (search) and other catastrophes was in part the result of his concerns that state and local personnel aren't up to the task of a flu outbreak.

"Yes," he replied.

After the bungled initial federal response to Katrina, Bush suggested putting the Pentagon (search) in charge of search-and-rescue efforts in times of a major terrorist attack or similarly catastrophic natural disaster. He has argued that the armed forces have the ability to quickly mobilize the equipment, manpower and communications capabilities needed in times of crisis.

But such a shift could require a change in law, and some in Congress and the states worry it would increase the power of the federal government at the expense of local control.

Bush made clear that the potential for an outbreak of avian flu is much on his mind, and has had him talking with "as many (world) leaders as I could find," consulting a book he read over the summer on the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic that killed 40 million and meeting with staff and experts.

"I have thought through the scenarios of what an avian flu outbreak could mean," he said.

He acknowledged that a quarantine — an idea sure to alarm many in the public — is no small thing for the government to undertake and that enforcing it would be tricky.

"It's one thing to shut down airplanes," Bush said. "It's another thing to prevent people from coming in to get exposed to the avian flu."

He urged Congress to give him the ability to use the military, if needed.

"I think the president ought to have all ... assets on the table to be able to deal with something this significant," he said.

As a standby precaution, Bush in April signed an executive order that added pandemic influenza to the government's list of communicable diseases for which a quarantine is authorized. It gives the government legal authority to detain or isolate a passenger arriving in the United States to prevent an infection from spreading.

At the time the order was signed, a spokeswoman for the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (search) said the Public Health Service would probably recommend home quarantines when possible, but said they would be voluntary. It's unclear whether the federal takeover of state and local quarantine powers that Bush discussed Tuesday would be limited just to travel or involve broader home quarantines as well.

Bush also said he has been urging world leaders to improve reporting on outbreaks of the virus, and exploring how to speed the production of a spray, now in limited supply, that "can maybe help arrest the spread of the disease."

"One of the issues is how do we encourage the manufacturing capacity of the country, and maybe the world, to be prepared to deal with the outbreak of a pandemic?" he said.

Yet it is the pill Tamiflu (search), which makes symptoms less severe and shortens the duration of the illness, that is in short supply — not its harder-to-use inhaled competitor Relenza.

Experts agree there will certainly be another flu pandemic — a new human flu strain that goes global. However, it is unknown when or how bad that global epidemic will be — or whether the H5N1 bird flu strain now circulating in Asian poultry will be its origin.

Just in case, experts are tracking the avian flu, which has swept through poultry populations in large swaths of Asia since 2003, jumped to humans and killed at least 65 people.

Most human cases have been linked to a contact with sick birds, but the World Health Organization (search) has warned the virus could mutate into a form that spreads easily among humans — changing it from a bird virus to a human pandemic flu strain.


Link Posted: 10/5/2005 11:38:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/5/2005 11:43:19 AM EDT by Luxan]
I posted about this before but got no one to respond. Yes I'm sure every true free american feels that a gov/military quarantine all off possible infected areas is a great idea. And give him the power to do so.


Who cares about the most advanced research institute in the world the CDC but lets trust the wwho who has been dead wrong how many times?

blah I want my vote back
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 11:50:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Luxan:

blah I want my vote back




I'm gettin' there too man. I've had framed pics of Bush and Reagan on my office wall for years now. But yesterday, I took GW's pic down and put it in my desk. He's got some "splaining" to do before I put it back up. Still... I'd vote for him 1,000,000 times before I'd vote for sKerry.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 11:50:34 AM EDT
Interesting.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 11:52:48 AM EDT
I'm a little worse off on my view of him then you after him thinking the patriot act is doing well again. other then the AWB I think Kerry would have done a much better job. The fact he still will NOT stop spending money even after katrina and rita is taking HUGE amounts of money from the federal gov would make Regan turn in his grave.

He gives a bad names to republicans. I don't know any republicans that did not hate his speech yesterday.

Next election should be interesting. I don't know if I want to vote for another one who might possibly be like him.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 11:54:18 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Red_Label:

Originally Posted By Luxan:

blah I want my vote back




I'm gettin' there too man. I've had framed pics of Bush and Reagan on my office wall for years now. But yesterday, I took GW's pic down and put it in my desk. He's got some "splaining" to do before I put it back up. ......




Good for you...
and BTW- Jorge W. Boosh is from fucking MAINE! - not Texas.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 11:56:49 AM EDT
I doubt their quarantine would do anything. With the way people travel around this country, the migratory routes of birds, and the sheer scope of the problem if it actually happens the military and federal govt wouldn't be able to do anything.

Just hope it never happens or doesn't sustain human to human passing of the disease.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 11:57:54 AM EDT
military quaranties work well for almost every country. granted it costs civilian lives if they are stupid enough, but the sheep learn quickly.
Link Posted: 10/5/2005 12:14:03 PM EDT

Dupe.

Link Posted: 10/5/2005 12:26:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Red_Label:

Originally Posted By Luxan:

blah I want my vote back




I'm gettin' there too man. I've had framed pics of Bush and Reagan on my office wall for years now. But yesterday, I took GW's pic down and put it in my desk. He's got some "splaining" to do before I put it back up. Still... I'd vote for him 1,000,000 times before I'd vote for sKerry.



Get a bigger Reagan one.

Oh on the topic, I don't think that will ever work because you will never be able to guard every inch of the border. (Example: Mexican Border). Also, is mail just going to stop or how will we get food.
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