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ilikelegs

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Posted: 5/28/2002 4:55:22 AM EST

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[url]http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/stories.php3?ca=10&si=762226&issue_id=7488[/url] Bush tells Europe it is time you repaid US

STANDING above the D-Day beaches of Normandy yesterday, US President George Bush reminded Europe of the debt it owed America for the Second World War and delivered a heartfelt call to arms in the war against terrorism.

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Gee, If any country that we helped had enough character we wouldn't or shouldn't even have to tell them this. Britain is as close as a country gets to being a good friend but that's it in my opinion. Any bets on if this statement gets put on the back burner or better yet is ridiculed by the Euro Trash leaders ?

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bung Joined Jan 2001 Posts 1311 EE Offline TX, USA	Posted: 5/28/2002 4:57:43 AM EST The French alone should be the ones to repay the US because we liberated that shithole.

Mortech Joined Oct 2001 Posts 509 EE Offline WA, USA	Posted: 5/28/2002 5:01:36 AM EST Originally Posted By bunghole: The French alone should be the ones to repay the US because we liberated that shithole. View Quote I think we bailed there asses out SEVERAL times : World War I World War 2 Korean War Vietnam War Just check it out , French were in these conflicts first and we had to bail them out .

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Posted: 5/28/2002 5:04:18 AM EST

Originally Posted By bunghole: The French alone should be the ones to repay the US because we liberated that shithole.

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I agree, But the French Frogs have the least amount of character of any country in the world, let alone Europe. They will be the first to ridicule the president of his remarkes instead of offering any help. The French represent a history of inner family breeding where they constantly F*!ck themselves since they think they are to good for anyone else. I don't think we want their military help. Ooh waite, we can send them in to clear mine fields... That's one thing they can do for us.

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Posted: 5/28/2002 5:25:22 AM EST

Originally Posted By Mortech: I think we bailed there asses out SEVERAL times : World War I World War 2 Korean War Vietnam War Just check it out , French were in these conflicts first and we had to bail them out .

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no argument on ww1 and 2, but... i dont think the french were involved in korea until after the UN entered, which was well after the US was involved. the US declined to provide air support at dien bien phu. it can be argued that had we helped them there, they would not have lost north vietnam to the communists and the south would not have gained independence. recent history would have been very different.

AR_Rifle Joined Jan 2001 Posts 1928 EE Offline VA, USA	Posted: 5/28/2002 5:34:24 AM EST The [b]world[/b] is to repay the U.S. Because without the U.S, this world would be a different world.....a world of ditatorship and oppressions.

The_Macallan Member Joined Nov 2001 Posts 1988 EE Offline USA	Posted: 5/28/2002 5:54:54 AM EST Originally Posted By AR_Rifle: The [b]world[/b] is to repay the U.S. Because without the U.S, this world would be a different world.....a world of ditatorship and oppressions. View Quote Exactly.
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Posted: 5/28/2002 6:14:36 AM EST

Originally Posted By lurker: the US declined to provide air support at dien bien phu. it can be argued that had we helped them there, they would not have lost north vietnam to the communists and the south would not have gained independence. recent history would have been very different.

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French resupply and reinforcements were sent by air, but the French picked a lousy spot in Dien Bien Phu. It was a bowl surrounded by hills, which Ho Chi Minh had no trouble exploiting. The Viet Minh dragged artillery pieces and antiaircraft guns up the hills and barraged the fort as well as any aircraft that came near it. It seems to me that the real watershed for the French was the pull out of the French Foreign Legion, once word got out to the press that it was 60-70% former Waffen SS. The annihilation of Groupe Mobile 100 and Dien Bien Phu followed soon after, as well as complete French capitulation of Indochina.

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armabill Joined Jan 2001 Posts 33 EE Offline PA, USA	Posted: 5/28/2002 6:17:17 AM EST France is the only country that paid us back for world war 2. We are still waiting for the rest of them.

redray Joined Feb 2001 Posts 503 EE Offline VT, USA	Posted: 5/28/2002 6:23:23 AM EST Originally Posted By AR_Rifle: The [b]world[/b] is to repay the U.S. Because without the U.S, this world would be a different world.....a world of ditatorship and oppressions. View Quote short and to the point. well said.

ElmerFudd Joined Apr 2002 Posts 82 EE Offline AL, USA	Posted: 5/28/2002 6:26:06 AM EST Lurker, the problem was not us not supporting the French in Vietnam, the problem was in not telling the colonial powers after WWII that they were not welcome to reoccupy countries where they were not wanted - like Vietnam.

raf Member Joined May 2001 Posts 5270 EE Offline RI, USA	Posted: 5/28/2002 6:27:13 AM EST Not to defend the modern French {let them do that themselves, if they can), but without French assistance (arms, munitions, ships, money, and troops) the Colonies would most likely have [b]lost[/b] the Revolutionary War. If we're playing tit-for-tat, we repaid France for that during WWI.
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Posted: 5/28/2002 7:01:12 AM EST

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Hate to tell you guys, but many of the European nations are helping out in the war on terror. England, Germany, Poland, and yes, even France. There are also many more nations in both Europe and other contents helping. Just because they don't provide arms or military manpower, doesn't mean they are useless. Good intelligence can go a long way. So can providing foodstuffs and allowing the use of airspace. Av.

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Originally Posted By ilikelegs: [url]http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/stories.php3?ca=10&si=762226&issue_id=7488[/url] Bush tells Europe it is time you repaid US

STANDING above the D-Day beaches of Normandy yesterday, US President George Bush reminded Europe of the debt it owed America for the Second World War and delivered a heartfelt call to arms in the war against terrorism.

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Gee, If any country that we helped had enough character we wouldn't or shouldn't even have to tell them this. Britain is as close as a country gets to being a good friend but that's it in my opinion. Any bets on if this statement gets put on the back burner or better yet is ridiculed by the Euro Trash leaders ?

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Unfortunately, this was probably the wrong tact for Bush to take. The Europeans are going to take a very snotty view of being reminded of any debts- particularly by haughty and loud Americans (of which they percieve Bush to be one). Well, except perhaps the Germans who can be browbeat into anything if warguilt is used. Just ask the French who extract usurious sums from them yearly though careful application of Kriegschuld at the agricultural trade talks).

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The_Macallan Member Joined Nov 2001 Posts 1990 EE Offline USA	Posted: 5/28/2002 8:19:52 AM EST [Last Edit: 5/28/2002 8:20:40 AM EST by The_Macallan] Originally Posted By tatjana: The Europeans are going to take a very snotty view of... View Quote ...everything we do anyway.
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Posted: 5/28/2002 9:07:33 AM EST

Originally Posted By raf: Not to defend the modern French {let them do that themselves, if they can), but without French assistance (arms, munitions, ships, money, and troops) the Colonies would most likely have [b]lost[/b] the Revolutionary War. If we're playing tit-for-tat, we repaid France for that during WWI.

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Sort of "Lafayette, here we come?" As far as the rest of it, the British debts of WWI and II were "forgiven" by FDR and Truman. So, there is no legal basis for the claim. Up until now, with their apparent support for the terrorist war, the Europeans have done nothing but hand wringing and finger pointing at the US. Nothing to be done about it now that they have indeed jumped in. Can't really say it, because it could fracture the alliance. After it's all over, who will care?

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Posted: 5/28/2002 10:14:26 AM EST

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Originally Posted By Mortech:

Originally Posted By bunghole: The French alone should be the ones to repay the US because we liberated that shithole.

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I think we bailed there asses out SEVERAL times : World War I World War 2

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You can add to that Yugoslavia: Serbia/Croatia/Bosnia/Herzegovinia/Macedonia/Albania Like Europe handled that well!! Until the U.S.("NATO") stepped in it was spiraling out of control! Those arrogant European morons couldn't even handle that mess in their own backyard until the U.S. stepped in !!!!! The level of conceit & arrogance Europeans have (especially in their view vs. the U.S.) continues to amaze me!!!!

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colklink Joined Dec 2001 Posts 105 EE Offline WV, USA	Posted: 5/28/2002 1:23:21 PM EST Whats the difference between a frenchman and a bucket of shit? the bucket![;)]

andrew Member Joined Feb 2001 Posts 198 EE Offline OK, USA	Posted: 5/28/2002 1:48:40 PM EST I thought that Norway was the only country to repay it's debt...maybe I got that wrong. I thought France just told us to "Fuck Off" France got pissy and dropped out of NATO. But the American shield of hundreds of thousands in Infantry, Armor, Artillery, and our nuclear weapons protected them anyway. For free. They owe us....

andrew Member Joined Feb 2001 Posts 199 EE Offline OK, USA	Posted: 5/28/2002 1:56:35 PM EST If the Muslim subhumans set off a nuke in the U.S. ( which they will someday soon, if we don't spank them very hard right now.); France won't even send a box of Band-Aids..

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Posted: 5/28/2002 1:58:50 PM EST

Who are we kidding? They couldn't even afford the INTEREST! They talk real tough until something goes wrong, then they come running to Hide in the SHADOW of the only real Power on the globe. Lets face it, America is the World's baby sitter, and the Guardian of freedom, and has been the Leader of every major initiative world wide for the last 50 years. When the going gets tough, Europe comes running. [-=(_)=-]

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Posted: 5/28/2002 2:14:22 PM EST

Why would we want France's military help? They'd simply skippitee doo daa to the front lines and surrender as soon as the enemy calls them names. The French run from accountability, lose at everything they do (minus that soccer victory a while back), drive on the wrong side of the road, and encourage hairy armpits on womenz... Two thumbs down in my book! Although they did have an impressive fireworks display on Y2K!

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warlord Joined Dec 2000 Posts 3087 EE Offline CA, USA	Posted: 5/28/2002 2:18:27 PM EST Don't be so hard on the French. If it wasn't Lafayette that held the Brits at bay, Gen. Wash. would have been wiped out during the Revolutionary War. Hey what about the Statue of Liberty? Remember it was a gift from France, but I forget the year.

jz87 Joined Sep 2001 Posts 245 EE Offline NY, USA	Posted: 5/28/2002 2:35:06 PM EST If the French didn't exist, we wouldn't be able to make fun of them. Consider that their contribution to the world.

legrue Joined Apr 2002 Posts 132 EE Offline OR, USA	Posted: 5/28/2002 2:38:48 PM EST Historically the French have been good allies. Recently, I can't say much good about them. They've pretty well told us "Fudge you". -legrue

fullclip Member Joined Jan 2001 Posts 307 EE Offline TX, USA	Posted: 5/28/2002 2:54:56 PM EST Originally Posted By armabill: France is the only country that paid us back for world war 2. We are still waiting for the rest of them. View Quote Care to go into a little more Detail????? fullclip

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Posted: 5/28/2002 2:59:25 PM EST

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I know it was not the French who have paid there debt of the cost towards WWII. I think it is Luxemburg, one of the smallest countries in EuroTrash land. It could Norway but I'm pretty sure its Luxemburg by memory in History class. Anyone care to look it up to make sure. I'm looking as well. Anyway, I just have to say this one more time. The French suck... [img]http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/mica/shitanim_small.gif[/img] France

Originally Posted By EricTheHun
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sniper1az Joined Mar 2002 Posts 78 EE Offline AZ, USA	Posted: 5/29/2002 10:24:21 PM EST The goddamn French again.... Perhaps Allah should nuke them! Question: Why do the French plant rows of trees along their roads ? Answer: That is so the Germans can march in the shade!

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