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Posted: 9/26/2004 7:01:53 PM EST
Take a look, bookmark, and watch the play-by-play http://www.electoral-vote.com/

Real interesting. Just in the last few days Bush has taken the lead in Florida, Oregon, Maine, Arizona and gaining on Kerry in Minnesota, Wisconsin, Washington, Illinois and even California!

Kerry is F'n up bad.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 7:04:48 PM EST
WoooHoooo Oregon. I knew we weren't all idiots!

It's hard to believe Bush is only 5 points off in California. Do these particular pollsters tend to lean right the way Zogby leans left? I wonder.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 7:06:18 PM EST

Originally Posted By _Ugly_:



It's hard to believe Bush is only 5 points off in California. .




Don't you people listen to me???


45 states and maybe California!


SGatr15
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 7:06:55 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 7:08:15 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/26/2004 7:09:22 PM EST by M4C]

Originally Posted By _Ugly_:
WoooHoooo Oregon. I knew we weren't all idiots!

It's hard to believe Bush is only 5 points off in California. Do these particular pollsters tend to lean right the way Zogby leans left? I wonder.



Really don't know but look at how AOL does it
http://www.electionguide04.com/straw_poll.adp
It's a "straw"poll but I thought AOL leans LEFT if anywhere!
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 7:10:48 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/26/2004 7:11:12 PM EST by Janus]
We'll see how things look after the debates.


Link Posted: 9/26/2004 7:12:17 PM EST

Originally Posted By M4C:

Originally Posted By _Ugly_:
WoooHoooo Oregon. I knew we weren't all idiots!

It's hard to believe Bush is only 5 points off in California. Do these particular pollsters tend to lean right the way Zogby leans left? I wonder.



Really don't know but look at how AOL does it
http://www.electionguide04.com/straw_poll.adp
It's a "straw"poll but I thought AOL leans LEFT if anywhere!



What BIG money doesn't? Its another lie that the democrats have sucessfully tricked everyone into believing.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 7:12:42 PM EST

Originally Posted By _Ugly_:
WoooHoooo Oregon. I knew we weren't all idiots!

It's hard to believe Bush is only 5 points off in California. Do these particular pollsters tend to lean right the way Zogby leans left? I wonder.

nope. IF they are saying Bush trails by 5%, he's at least even.
Zogby was so far off on the CA Recall, right up through the polls closing, that his polls are WORTHLESS. Not even counting his arabist favoritism.

If the last serveral weeks' trend continues, CA is going to go to Bush.
Sgtar's been calling it for a while, and so have I here and at other places on the internet for a long time. At least 60% of the popular vote, and an Electoral mandate / landslide for Bush.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 7:12:58 PM EST
KERRY is only leading in 13 states and still losing ground! Look alive guys, Herman Munster is going down!
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 7:13:14 PM EST

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Don't you people listen to me???


SGatr15



It isn't a problem with not listening to you. It's a problem with believing you.

If Cali goes Bush, You can pick my lotto ticket numbers.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 7:21:04 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 7:22:19 PM EST
If you guys think this is a done deal you are making a big mistake. I think this will be another close one. I hope that Bush gets what the economic models predict which is a 56% to 44% finish. The odds are with Bush. But he was ahead 5 or 6 points the week before the last election, and look what happened. Plus the Big Media are still with Kerry and they are panicking in a big way especially after the big CBS flap. Look for more slanted smears in the next few weeks from Big Media.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 7:22:27 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/26/2004 7:26:45 PM EST by M4C]
Strong Kerry (64) Electoral Votes
Weak Kerry (79) EVs
Barely Kerry (64) EVs
Exactly tied (24) EVs
Barely Bush (96) EVs
Weak Bush (63) EVs
Strong Bush (148) EVs
Needed to win: 270 EVs


BUSH.....307 EVs

KERRY...207 EVs
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 7:25:30 PM EST

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By _Ugly_:



It's hard to believe Bush is only 5 points off in California. .




Don't you people listen to me???


45 states and maybe California!


SGatr15



Yes I do ... And as I said before. You have more faith in California than I do.

Should Bush take California... I will send you 100 rounds of 223
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 7:30:17 PM EST
Hell, should Bush win California, I think Kerry should send all a case of ammo!!!

I do have my doubts about CA...
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 7:30:57 PM EST

Originally Posted By DrFrige:

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By _Ugly_:



It's hard to believe Bush is only 5 points off in California. .




Don't you people listen to me???


45 states and maybe California!


SGatr15



Yes I do ... And as I said before. You have more faith in California than I do.

Should Bush take California... I will send you 100 rounds of 223


i'll send you 200 rounds sarge!
my prediction is still 35 states
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 7:33:17 PM EST

Originally Posted By DrFrige:

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By _Ugly_:



It's hard to believe Bush is only 5 points off in California. .




Don't you people listen to me???


45 states and maybe California!


SGatr15



Yes I do ... And as I said before. You have more faith in California than I do.

Should Bush take California... I will send you 100 rounds of 223




I'm holding you to that.


SGatr15
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 7:34:45 PM EST

Originally Posted By -Absolut-:

Originally Posted By DrFrige:

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By _Ugly_:



It's hard to believe Bush is only 5 points off in California. .




Don't you people listen to me???


45 states and maybe California!


SGatr15



Yes I do ... And as I said before. You have more faith in California than I do.

Should Bush take California... I will send you 100 rounds of 223


i'll send you 200 rounds sarge!
my prediction is still 35 states




wOw! i'M GOING TO DO BETTER IN THIS ELECTION THAN kERRY IS!


sgATR15
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 7:43:35 PM EST

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By _Ugly_:



It's hard to believe Bush is only 5 points off in California. .




Don't you people listen to me???


45 states and maybe California!


SGatr15



I believe sgtar15 I believe
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 7:45:10 PM EST
Anyone know why Repubs are now Red? Did the democRats deside red was unlucky last time
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 7:47:45 PM EST
good

+1 vote for W
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 8:11:43 PM EST
I'm an enthusiastic BUSH supporter.
But, I'm suspicious of any polling that gives CA to Bush.
Sorry, It's not going to happen.
I'm sure they'll have Massachusetts swinging to Bush before too long.

Kerry has NY,NJ,CA,MA in his pocket with another 10 or so he'll likely take, everyplace else is going for Bush.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 8:51:41 PM EST

Originally Posted By BigZ:

I'm sure they'll have Massachusetts swinging to Bush before too long.



Ca will go to Bush waaaay before MA would!
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 8:51:57 PM EST
About 5 days ago, that same site had Kerry ahead. Granted, that was almost certainly wrong, but it shows that the site is untrustworthy.

Clearly Bush is ahead. If nothing else, the hysteria pervading the Kerry camp right now shows that.

But still, a surprise in the debates or something really bad happening in Iraq could change things.

There’s only one poll that matters, and that's the one done in voting booths in November.
Link Posted: 9/26/2004 9:01:41 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 12:04:01 PM EST
Overconfidence is a dangerous thing. Especially when it gets people to the point where they think it's a foregone conclusion.

Look at Florida, Pennsylvania and Oregon. It seems like every 15 minutes the polls have W and Fairy changing placies.

The Democrats aren't through, and they are dangerous when cornered. They will do anything and EVERYTHING to win this.

It WILL be close.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 12:06:37 PM EST
I hope you're right. The title of Hugh Hewitt's book says it all: If It's Not Close, They Can't Cheat

I expect there will be a surplus of cheating by the Dims. They know the score.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 3:03:54 PM EST

Originally Posted By sherrick13:
Really, it is sad for a candidate that will win CA and NY but STILL lose the election.



No, that's a good thing.
NY & Ca are out of touch with the values held by the vast majority of Americans.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 4:06:54 PM EST
CNNUSATODAYGALLUP out today
President Bush 52 - 44 comrade kerry

Link Posted: 9/27/2004 8:55:22 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 9:07:33 PM EST
Not to piss in anyone's cornflakes, but it's now a little different, with W holding only 280 EV's...
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 9:08:14 PM EST

Originally Posted By sherrick13:
Really, it is sad for a candidate that will win CA and NY but STILL lose the election.



It was really sad when Al Gore lost his own state...that should mean that you have no chance of winning, regardless of your electoral total.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 9:08:46 PM EST
And to further piss you off... The site where this is supports the removal of President Bush. Suckers, it's a left-wing shit site.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 9:18:22 PM EST

Originally Posted By NSFJojo:
And to further piss you off... The site where this is supports the removal of President Bush. Suckers, it's a left-wing shit site.



You serious? I've never read anything there in detail; just looked at the map.

That's too funny!
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 9:19:39 PM EST
He's right, go to home on the web page, its a liberal pole-smoker that runs it.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 9:29:02 PM EST

Originally Posted By NSFJojo:
And to further piss you off... The site where this is supports the removal of President Bush. Suckers, it's a left-wing shit site.




Oh crap, where's the "it's a trap" picture when you need it!
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 9:30:17 PM EST

Originally Posted By 199:
But still, a surprise in the debates or something really bad happening in Iraq could change things.



The big Kerry push will be in Iraq, IMO. Look for the situation to "go out of control" (as the media will describe it), as AQ pulls out all the stops to kill as many American soldiers and contractors as they possibly can in mid-to-late October. They'll go for broke on this one.
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 11:12:52 AM EST

Originally Posted By Skibane:

Originally Posted By 199:
But still, a surprise in the debates or something really bad happening in Iraq could change things.



The big Kerry push will be in Iraq, IMO. Look for the situation to "go out of control" (as the media will describe it), as AQ pulls out all the stops to kill as many American soldiers and contractors as they possibly can in mid-to-late October. They'll go for broke on this one.


Interesting thought!

I’m old enough to remember the Tet offensive and how it was totally misrepresented by the media.

It could certainly happen again!!
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 11:20:23 AM EST

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By -Absolut-:

Originally Posted By DrFrige:

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By _Ugly_:



It's hard to believe Bush is only 5 points off in California. .




Don't you people listen to me???


45 states and maybe California!


SGatr15



Yes I do ... And as I said before. You have more faith in California than I do.

Should Bush take California... I will send you 100 rounds of 223


i'll send you 200 rounds sarge!
my prediction is still 35 states




wOw! i'M GOING TO DO BETTER IN THIS ELECTION THAN kERRY IS!


sgATR15



I have $50 on Bush. I think that is better than a few hundred rounds
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