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Posted: 9/26/2004 9:34:45 PM EDT
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Its probably the fact that the manufacturers dont want to be held liable for the next armored pyscho that decides to take over a bank, ala the Hollywood shootout type scenerio
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Posted: 9/26/2004 9:36:40 PM EDT
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Will it stop a 12.7 x 99mm?
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Posted: 9/26/2004 9:42:56 PM EDT
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angry haha. 50 cal? a 50 cal anti-vest would be about 20 lbs, not to mention if the bullet didnt get you the shockwave probably would. so either say hello to a big hole or watch a shockwave traumatize your liver. have a nice day.
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Posted: 9/26/2004 9:45:28 PM EDT
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I already did this post, dupe lmao just giving you a hard time
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Posted: 9/26/2004 9:55:39 PM EDT
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I actually need one of these and need to know where to find one. You see I work for an elite security taskforce in a high volume retail enviorment.
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Posted: 9/26/2004 9:58:38 PM EDT
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I wear a IIIA and it says it will stop a 7.62x39 but only if I'm hit in the shockplate.
The vest itself will stop a high vel 9mm though. I hope. It hasn't been tested yet. |
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Posted: 9/26/2004 10:00:18 PM EDT
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I always figured you were a mall ninja 
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Posted: 9/26/2004 10:04:36 PM EDT
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Does you hostile engagement plan call for you taking several .308 rounds to the back while covering your partner? 
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Posted: 9/26/2004 10:04:51 PM EDT
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Now you know!
Jokes aside, the earlier thread had me making panicked phone calls to a prospective employer, I am expecting a job offer for a position in Iraq within the next few days, and it occured to me that body armor might not be a bad idea, then saw that nobody would sell them to civilians. The good news is that my prospective employer has already taken care of that issue and buys top of the line armor for thier employees, and has arangements made for purchasing firearms that have features not available in the US. |
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Posted: 9/27/2004 7:14:16 AM EDT
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Good luck and stay safe. |
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Posted: 9/27/2004 7:24:09 AM EDT
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Take Care if you go P38.
Since when was Body Armor Illegal to own? I'm sure this has been hashed over once or twice but I don't recall it being illegal. |
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Posted: 9/27/2004 7:31:27 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/27/2004 7:31:42 AM EDT
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Thanks, I will do my best. I don't really want to go, I am not of the mind to help win any hearts or minds, but I need the money and they are paying very well. I will be working with the USMC and Airfirce primarily and will not have to leave base at all if I choose not to. I hate to take the position but like I said I am tired of worrying about a car being repossesed every time I hear a truck go down the road. It seems that I have very valuable skills but Iraq is the only place they are in demand right now. |
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Posted: 9/27/2004 7:33:16 AM EDT
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everytime i see theses references they make me giggle... |
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Posted: 9/27/2004 7:44:43 AM EDT
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Exactly how many thrusts per squeeze is that? |
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Posted: 9/27/2004 8:22:09 AM EDT
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Are you worried about multiple shots to the back as you make a tactical withdrawal? Edited to add: "Damn, you guys beat me to the punch!" 
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Posted: 9/27/2004 8:27:27 AM EDT
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that vest will stop up to a 9mm from a subgun. It will not stop a rifle round. Only the plates will do that.
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Posted: 9/27/2004 10:48:26 AM EDT
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The above is for Type III-A ... 9mm and .44 Magnum, plus protection from all Type I, II-A, and II threats. The title of this thread says NIJ level III which is as follows (from the US Department of Justice website); Type III (Rifles). This armor protects against 7.62mm full metal jacketed (FMJ) bullets (U.S. military designation M80), with nominal masses of 9.6 g (148 gr), impacting at a minimum velocity of 838 m/s (2750 ft/s) or less. It also provides protection against Type I through III-A threats. It should be noted that Type III armor is NOT a concealable vest like III-A. |
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Posted: 9/27/2004 10:51:36 AM EDT
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what kind of military background is needed? |
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Posted: 9/27/2004 11:08:56 AM EDT
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doesn't lightfighter sell to civs?
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Posted: 9/27/2004 11:09:16 AM EDT
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For my position the are looking for people with Redcom switch experience and heavy duty Nortel SL100/250 switch experience, plus I have a lot of experience and training on ATM equipment.
My military experience was as a 31F, but I believe that they would be willing to hire a person who had lots of experience with the Nortel SL equipment, and have a security clearance or have had one in the past (I think all that is required is Secret, but I am not sure). I know it osunds corny but I am not able to say who the employer is publicly until I have accepted an offer in writing, but they are a very large communications company who go way back with the US Military, I was very surprised when my prospective boss told me that they had no problems toting guns, and even had a vendor set up who could quickly deliver whatever they wanted at reasonable costs (think, what the Army pays, for most items). |
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Posted: 9/27/2004 11:59:58 AM EDT
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I think theoretically IIIA is supposed to stop 7.62 russian, but its soft armor so the energy transfer would prob cause just as much damage, hence the reason it's usually not listed as stopping rifle round unless it has plates
they aren't illegal except in maybe california, most companies just give priority to their largest customer, the US government |
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Posted: 9/27/2004 12:04:32 PM EDT
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your getting a rifle at Army prices...should be about 20k I would guess...
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Posted: 9/27/2004 12:23:41 PM EDT
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Not illegal in CA. A law was proposed but didn't get anywhere.
6. LAWS FOR PURCHASE : We know of no state law pertaining to the puchase and /or use of body armor. Please check your local laws priori to puchase. www.securityplanet.com/armor-info.htm Lest we be guilty of the same mis-information technique of the liberales it should be noted that Sen. Feinsteins legislation regarding vests would have made enhancement to sentencing on CRIMINALS that used armor in commission of a crime. It will take some time before they deduce that if you WANT an armor vest you are likely a criminal. |
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Posted: 9/27/2004 12:36:31 PM EDT
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M4 no optics, less than a thousand, that is what most of the guys I will be working with have chosen, I probably will as well. I of course have not been there, and have not made a concrete descision yet, so getting to deep into all of the details is a little premature. |
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