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Posted: 11/19/2008 8:46:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/19/2008 8:47:26 AM EDT by Cypher214]
Relying too much on traction control, and then turning it off in cold weather, but not changing your driving habits leads to this... or if you want to say it without so much class... "not knowing how to drive causes this."  He has only had the car for a few months.  He is fine, just shaken up.

He got into first gear too hard, got off the side of the road, spun it around, hit a culvert which blew the tire, overcorrected and ended up in the woods.

The carbon fiber roof and low center of gravity are probably the only reasons the car didn't roll.















Link Posted: 11/19/2008 8:48:21 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 8:48:31 AM EDT
&
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 8:49:06 AM EDT
Whoops.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 8:50:20 AM EDT
This crime is punishable by death!!!  I must take control of the vehicle ASAP.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 8:50:48 AM EDT
little bondo and paint and it will buff right out!
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 8:51:36 AM EDT
i cried
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 8:51:53 AM EDT
Where is the Simpsons  HA HA pic when you need it?





Sorry about your buddys ride. Those are sweet cars.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 8:51:59 AM EDT
That's why they exist: to be driven hard and occasionally one falls to the statistics.  I hope he's insured through USAA so I can help pay for it.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 8:52:23 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 8:52:38 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:
little bondo and paint and it will buff right out!


Beat me to it...

Link Posted: 11/19/2008 8:53:04 AM EDT
jesus christ, he managed that much of a fuck-up in FIRST gear?

man card revoked, right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 8:53:05 AM EDT
A few weeks in the shop, pay the deductible and move on.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 8:53:14 AM EDT
They will have it back to normal in no time.  He walked away... no worries.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 8:53:55 AM EDT
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh damn!!!!
that blows.

Link Posted: 11/19/2008 8:54:07 AM EDT

Link Posted: 11/19/2008 8:54:25 AM EDT
It'll buff right out
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 8:54:30 AM EDT
This is what happens when people rely on technology to drive "safe"...

Rule one, learn to drive
Rule two, relearn to drive
Rule three, get insurance


Link Posted: 11/19/2008 8:54:47 AM EDT
Originally Posted By V-Match:
jesus christ, he managed that much of a fuck-up in FIRST gear?

man card revoked, right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You do know how powerful that car is, right?



Link Posted: 11/19/2008 8:54:55 AM EDT
My uncle is a tv repairman...He's got tools.  I can fix it.

Link Posted: 11/19/2008 8:55:12 AM EDT
You should smack your buddy around a bit.

poor poor car
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 8:55:36 AM EDT
This is why I NEVER turn off the stability management system (traction control) on my M3.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 8:55:50 AM EDT
Put a new tire on it and I would drive it as is.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 8:56:24 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Arcteryx:
They will have it back to normal in no time.  He walked away... no worries.


Yeah, that's what insurance is for.

I'd hate to see what the quote is though...

Link Posted: 11/19/2008 8:56:45 AM EDT
Originally Posted By deadpool31:
Put a new tire on it and I would drive it as is.


Not with the busted radiator, you wouldn't.

Link Posted: 11/19/2008 8:58:25 AM EDT
You say wrecked Chris Bangle says abstract art.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 8:58:37 AM EDT
Originally Posted By 57Strat:
This is why I NEVER turn off the stability management system (traction control) on my M3.



Would a real man need a 'stability management system?'
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 8:58:42 AM EDT
Ain't it a bitch when your means outstrip good sense, even for a moment?




Link Posted: 11/19/2008 8:58:59 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Cypher214:
Originally Posted By V-Match:
jesus christ, he managed that much of a fuck-up in FIRST gear?

man card revoked, right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You do know how powerful that car is, right?



yeah, i do.

driver was a tard, no two ways about it.  

Link Posted: 11/19/2008 8:59:05 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Cypher214:
Originally Posted By deadpool31:
Put a new tire on it and I would drive it as is.


Not with the busted radiator, you wouldn't.




shit just throw a raw egg in it and it will be fine..
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 8:59:30 AM EDT
No fail pics?
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:00:09 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:00:21 AM EDT
Damn... My older one was fast.. I couldn't imagine what a newer one would be like. Its a crying shame that this happens to so many of those.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:00:25 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:01:18 AM EDT
She'll be sound as a pound in no time.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:02:13 AM EDT
Hope you can talk him into taking some lessons from a performance driving school/club.  The local Porsche clubs usually have very good instructors or can direct to one.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:02:23 AM EDT
Originally Posted By junker46:
Originally Posted By 57Strat:
This is why I NEVER turn off the stability management system (traction control) on my M3.



Would a real man need a 'stability management system?'



It's not as much about NEED as it is about performance.

The car performs better with the system engaged.  Tire slip does nothing good for performance.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:02:36 AM EDT
Glad he's ok, too bad, I love the new M3.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:02:55 AM EDT
Originally Posted By jpelaston:
Damn... My older one was fast.. I couldn't imagine what a newer one would be like. Its a crying shame that this happens to so many of those.


That's what they are there for.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:02:59 AM EDT
Originally Posted By junker46:
That's why they exist: to be driven hard and occasionally one falls to the statistics. I hope he's insured through USAA so I can help pay for it.


+1 !

Very true.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:03:52 AM EDT



expensive screw-up. oh well, it happens.


Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:04:27 AM EDT
Want to send me the drive train,  I'll graft it under my 1600 that I got for free.

Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:05:55 AM EDT
Originally Posted By junker46:
Originally Posted By 57Strat:
This is why I NEVER turn off the stability management system (traction control) on my M3.



Would a real man need a 'stability management system?'


burn!!!
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:06:40 AM EDT
They aren't there to crash.. Drive aggressively, yes. Crash, no.

Didn't BMW used to offer a class to the Ultimate Driving School with the purchase of a new Bimmer back in the 90's?



Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:07:26 AM EDT
Originally Posted By scrum:
Hope you can talk him into taking some lessons from a performance driving school/club.  The local Porsche clubs usually have very good instructors or can direct to one.


The corner workers @ willow springs where brought in to talk with us @ a HP drivers class

They said that Viper clubs and BMW clubs had the highest rate of wrecks!

yes, your bud needs some class time
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:08:24 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Cypher214:
Originally Posted By junker46:
Originally Posted By 57Strat:
This is why I NEVER turn off the stability management system (traction control) on my M3.



Would a real man need a 'stability management system?'



It's not as much about NEED as it is about performance.

The car performs better with the system engaged.  Tire slip does nothing good for performance.


You know what I'm getting at: like in a flight safety class I’m taking, there is a lot of buzz about automation taking over in the cockpit.  The removal of man from machine.

What’s more satisfying: storming around that cliff-lined road by yourself or a little help from a computer? It’s would be like a stability system for your gun; you'll never just how good you are.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:12:49 AM EDT
well that's a shame.
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:13:04 AM EDT
Looks more dirty than wrecked
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:13:09 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:14:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/19/2008 9:16:48 AM EDT by LVMIKE]
Originally Posted By 57Strat:
This is why I NEVER turn off the stability management system (traction control) on my M3.


Which year?

I love mine. I turn off the ASC (completely, by holding the button down for 10 seconds) often and the car can be a handful (...of fun). But I leave it on if the weather isn't good or I don't plan on doing anything that would require it to be off. I've learned my lesson on a 97' 328i when I turned it off in the rain and got on it way too hard in a turn... I repaired the damage myself and I learned an important lesson.

Link Posted: 11/19/2008 9:16:22 AM EDT
That sucks But sometimes stupid hurts.
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